Dr. Stormlocke

New stuff to talk about Robot players! Guilty Gear: Accent Core + R has been released in Japanese arcades, with a forthcoming console release in a few months (hopefully!) ***NEW VERSION 1.10 CHANGES*** We don't even have all the Mook changes translated, yet here's a new change apparently coming in version 1.10 next month. Thanks to Alzarath for posting and Nikki from hit confirm. -Aerial SRK now has initial prorate. All translated changes: http://pastebin.com/wvvpK7Bq ***11/4 MOOK TRANSLATIONS AND CONFIRMATIONS*** Robo's standing Dust now has 24 frames startup. (Was 20 before, tied with Raoh for fastest Dust in the game.) 2hs Knee Rocket: Interestingly enough there's no mention of a temperature increase for the move normally. HOWEVER, in 80% heat mode, this move gives you 6.2 degree heat increase on frame 1. 80% Heat 2s Eye lasers: The two parts of the attack do 37 and 20 damage and the move is +1 on block! Similarly, like 2hs, while only in 80% Heat this move will give you a slight temperature increase. In this case, it will be 2.4 degrees on frame 1. Force Break: I've confirmed at least the major buff. Robo is now pilotable on frame 1, and you can cancel on frame 2. (Was frame 6 and frame 7 before.) ***8/28 RECENTLY TRANSLATED CHANGES: Thanks to Dustloop member Dream Maker for the help. Robo-Ky Heat increase : heat goes up on normal guard, FD and IB. jHS : heats up 15°C 6P 1 hit : heats up 10°C 6P 3 hits : heats up 40°C Air missile lv 1 : heats up 30°C Air missile lv 2 and 3 : heats up 5°C 2HS : heats up 10°C. Guaranteed to come out. If you shoot it goes all the way up and goes back down. When coming back to the ground, knocks down on both normal and counter hit. 80% Heat only. 2S : heats up 5°C. Untechable time slightly reduced. Impossible to catch after it on ground hit most of the time. Backstep : heats up 10°C Air dp : Acts as an overhead. Can TK. Not possible to get a knockdown. Stronger choice than the gundash (? I think he means the classic low air dash mixup) on okizeme. Level 1 heats up 10°C, no heat up on lv 2 and 3. Stormlocke's note: Regarding Air DP change above ("gundash"), perhaps they are referencing Robo-Dash. ***8/16 LOKETEST CHANGES:*** Robo-Ky: - j.623HS is overhead Source/Credit: Nikki from Hitconfirm & https://twitter.com/en_ootsuru/status/236030653676810240 ***6/28/2012 LOKETEST 2 CHANGE LIST***: robo ky heat changes slower c.S upper hitbox is larger 5D startup from 20 to 22f 2K builds less heat 2S (80% heat) 2 hits increases heat increased range, explosion has increased hitbox j.H floats opponent higher when counterhit 6P damage increased from 25 to 30 untechable time increased from 18 to 80f 6P (2nd,3rd) damage decreased from 25 to 20 upper invincibility during startup throw opponent floats higher ky-genshou (lv1) higher heat increase ky-genshou (lv2) opponent slides when counterhit shorter pushback on hit and guard ky-genshou (lv3) wallbounce on counterhit ky-maku homerun (lv1) higher heat increase air ky-maku homerun new move chounai ky bargain (lv1) higher heat increase chounai ky bargain (lv2) lower heat increase chounai ky bargain (lv3) lower heat increase ky denpa damage changed from 8 x n + 35 to 2 x n + 38 can recover up to 50% of electricity gauge opponent's tension can be lowered by 25% opponent gets higher float, shorter horizontal distance throw invincible during startup kyou wa ky san command changed to air 214d can be steered from the first frame can be cancelled from the second frame can now be cancelled into an airdash or air backdash heat decrease is half of what it used to be dame na yatsu wa nani mo yatte mo dame inputting 6 gives you a headbutt enhanced headbutt can be done when heat is around 93-99 gen ky lovers (explosion) can not be airblocked Credit/Thanks: Coolest My thoughts so far: For me they saved the best change for last, holy shit. Super amped on that. Force Break changes are fantastic for my playstyle too. Fishing with Level 3 horse can have a bigger payoff, easier input window for enhanced super-headbutt is helpful, 2s Eye Laser buffs are a great way to potentially deal damage without dumping as much tension, and 80% 2hs Knee Rockets should help with heat-mode rushdown/pressure (interested to see how much heat they give still though). I can deal with the nerf to his 5d, it's only been that fast since AC, and potential damage loss from command grab. I'm really excited and happy about the changes, at least how they look on 'paper', and I can't wait to get into the lab with this new robot! **From First Loketest** - 623H (SRK) : now possible while airborne, FRC possible just as the ground version. - 2H (Knee Rocket) rocket now comes back down toward opponent after a while. - 2S (Eye Lasers) while heat superior than 80% hits twice and launches. My thoughts so far: Pretty stoked on the Robot changes. Having 2hs Knee Rocket basically become a Doom Hidden missile is very much welcomed. Interested to see if it's going to give significant heat as M. Song alluded to. Also interested in seeing how it tracks, and if you can have multiple ones coming down at the same time. 2hs FRC x N shenanigans, etc. 2s Eye Lasers hitting twice and launching in 80% Heat mode is great too. Saves tension for extended-burninating and missile ender combos in the air. Since it doesn't prorate, it'll be even more beneficial and advantageous to try and sneak it in as a starter. Air SRK seems funny to me still, but it's cool. I'm just picturing Robot doing it from his Force Break motion, and how unnatural it'll be to see at first.

I don't have a lot of experience with this matchup in +R. But I played AC for years vs Hellmonkey. It's a very boring matchup and we didn't particularly like playing it, haha. You make missiles. She makes carpets. You go for command grab when you can get a read. I try and space bazooka oki so if she bellyflops out I can connect with 2hs or Level 2 CH missile. It's a little different sort of situation in +R though. IB as always, FD as needed. (Though this is universal advice.) Yeah, sorry it's not much more indepth than that. As I said, boring.

I agree M. Song, I was surprised his Level 3 Horses weren't getting stuffed on reaction. Still a lot of cool tricks in there though. Some stuff I want to X-Copy, some of it is simple: -Knockdown, Bazooka Oki, Run up next to them, 2d while they're blocking, Level 3 Horse as they're done blocking bazooka. You can alternate this with command grab instead of Horse at the end. -Bazooka connecting vs jumping opponent in the air? Run up and 6p once. -Ending some aerial combos with Level 1 J.SRK for the heat gain. -Don't remember if it was in these recent vids, but TK Level 3 SRK while in Level 3 Heat mode on opponents wakeup, into Level 3 SRK super. Good if opponent has a burst. Doesn't work on all characters tho. -Blocked 2k, blocked 2hs FRC, TK Level 3 SRK FRC, j.hs~whatever. I used to do blocked 2hs FRC into 5d, but this is the new hotness. I just don't like how inconsistent FRCing and comboing with TK SRK can be. Sometimes you're underneath them, sometimes you're on the other side, sometimes they're too high, sometimes you've RC'd instead so your tension and options are limited, etc etc.

Almost an hour of GAKU goodness: http://youtu.be/OM_S0VIWJNo Really great stuff. You guys will probably pick up a few new tricks for high-heat mode!

Yeah, it was on the Brokentier stream/Twitch, Nov. 5th. Just be advised it was netplay, and we did encounter some lag. Regardless, the setups work offline just as well. I started playing Koogy about 15 minutes in. http://www.twitch.tv/brokentier/b/585448749

Here is a quick video of some of the Command Grab setups I have been discussing with you guys, vs Koogy on the Brokentier stream: http://youtu.be/30YATUntY9k He grabbed my Burst a few seconds later, haha. I also really like Command Grab, empty jump over their body j.p, land, 2k, 2s, 2d. I would alternate with Command Grab, empty jump over their body j.p, as you are falling Aerial L2 or L3 SRK.

Awesome, sure! I'll be editing in more over the next few days. Certain setups, due to how specific the spacing is, tend to lead into others well.

Hey guys! I've been playing a bit lately and have had even more success with my command grab mixups. Some new ones I have incorporated: Command grab, running empty j.p over their body, land, 2k, 2s, 2d. Command grab, hesitate and let their body fall, running j.p whiff over them as they are waking up, Level 2 or 3 air SRK* (*RC, hesitate, 5©s, SJ aircombo if you connect with air SRK. Optional.) I want to make a flow chart, but generally here are the three factors for optimizing his "vortex" if you will: If they have a burst, how much tension they have, how much tension YOU have. Post command grab, opponent has no burst, opponent has 25%+ or so tension, you have Level 2 tension: Backdash, Level 2 horse, land in front of them, command grab. Post command grab, opponent has no burst, opponent has a questionable amount of tension to steal, you have Level 2 tension: Either of the two setups at the top of this post. 5p whiff/timing device, run, Level 2 horse. (Like many setups, this works best once you have conditioned them. In this case, try backdash, Level 2 horse, command grab before attempting this punish setup.) Post command grab, opponent has no burst, opponent has 25% or more tension still, you have level 3 tension: Backdash, Level 3 horse crossup whiff as they are waking up, command grab. Let their body hit the ground, immediate 2d, 236236s punch spam super, do not mash slash, command grab. Let their body hit the ground, immediate 2d, 236236s punch spam super, do not mash slash, Level 3 SRK super. (This one is ridiculous, and is a good round ender. It's also a good one to dump your tension on once you have landed a few command grabs in a row, because the opponent is so antsy they usually will throw something out.) Post command grab, opponent has no burst, opponent has a questionable amount of tension to steal, you have Level 3 tension: Level 3 horse crossup whiff, land, 5d. Level 3 horse crossup whiff, land, 2k, 2s, 2d. Level 3 horse crossup whiff, land, Level 3 horse back at them. (Good if you think they will mash, or stick something out. More effective if you've conditioned them with something like [command grab, backdash, level 3 horse crossup whiff, land, command grab] already.) Backdash/5p whiff timing device, run, Level 3 horse. (By delaying your Level 3 horse you will many times confuse your opponent. To make it even better, you can legit crossup and HIT with luck and/or expert timing.) Post command grab, opponent has a burst, opponent has any level of tension, you have Level 3 tension: Running empty j.p over their body, land, 5k, Level 3 SRK super. (This is my go to burst bait/or punish ideally. Many times your opponent will burst upon your 5k connecting. Your Level 3 SRK super will give zero fucks, go right through it, and nail them.) Edits to follow. I'm at work. =)

I'll be on for the next couple hours. Hope to get some games on vs you guys!

To answer your query, heat mode gives you the following buffs: - Your hits add 6 frames of hitstun to opponent. - Your hits are untechable/unrecoverable 8 frames longer. - You have a power modifier of 1.1. - Your normals do chip damage! That's it. Robo's 5p is great even w/o high heat mode, but you'll see a lot of people fishing with it in high heat mode. I think this tends to confuse people, who incorrectly assume there is a buff in the blockstun. You ARE doing chip damage on block though, which can be handy. As far as your heatmode strategies are concerned, good luck, share if you'd like. I generally dump high heat mode via 5p~Level 3 Steam loops. Doom 2hs knee rockets are not very good, but 2s launching in high heat is great, just have to be careful not to use j.hs in the subsequent aircombo. And yes, it is rather dead here. Can't really tell you why.

These have really been panning out. I have a few other setups that I alternate with now: Midscreen'ish command grab (more than 3 hits), backdash, Level 2 horse, land in front of them, command grab. Midscreen'ish command grab (more than 3 hits), as soon as they land, 2d, immediate Punch Spam super & don't mash Slash, command grab. --on subsequent attempts, mash Slash for Punch Spam super. This will stuff many attempts at what they think is another command grab.

Some command grab setups that I've been having luck with, that you guys might want to experiment with: Midscreen command grab, backdash, Level 3 Horse over their body, command grab. (Command grab is throw invulnerable now, so that's fun.) Midscreen command grab, backdash, Level 3 Horse over their body, Level 3 SRK/Super. (Fast startup stuffs mash atttempts to beat what they perceive is another command grab attempt. Also stuffs poorly timed throw attempts.) Midscreen command grab, Level 3 Horse over their body, Level 3 Horse/5d. (By not backdashing after the command grab, and instead crossing over with Level 3 Horse asap, you have more time to setup things on the other side.) It's important to note that it is possible to get thrown. Also obviously if you need the damage, you are sacrificing the unburstable Punch Spam Super followup. Sometime the above setups really pay off tho.

I need to practice and utilize this more often. I'm going to hopefully get the +R matchup subforum threads going soon. Anyone have any experience on recent matchups they'd like to chime in on? I've been playing against a lot of Testaments. Some of his new/modified normals took some getting used to, along with his warp. Potemkin is definitely still hard for me, but I don't feel like I've lost the round when I am knocked down now. Any new strings or setups that have been effective for you guys? I'm a big fan of Punch Spam super juggle vs opponent who is cornered, let them drop, mat, run up TK SRK on their wakeup~whatever. Many rounds have been ended this way. Also have been doing mid screen command grab, horsie over their body, run up TK SRK on their wakeup. Still looking for a halfway decent setup with 80% heat Knee Rockets. It's still a round ending Hail Mary at best.

I'll be on for a few hours, starting soon. Hope to get some games in vs y'all.

GGs to all of you who I have played against recently! Too much 5hs FRC'ing, feels like my hand has arthritis. I'm fucking old. See you guys back online in a few days, haha.

I've been playing for a few days now, and honestly I couldn't be happier. I understand where you are coming from RE: his command grab, but I think there are so many other benefits, at least when applied to my playstyle: *c.5s into 6p gatling* I think this is really great. Now we have the option to push further to the corner, or utilize effectively while in the corner. M. Song I know we've spoken in the past about how you don't like Robo's air combos because they have the option to tech, and generally you favor building tension and keeping your opponent locked down. I too am annoyed when I dump all my tension and the opponent then techs in mid-air, while I am meterless. The great thing about this gatling, highlighted by the fantastic Nagao vids, is how this can be capitalized on in the corner: 2k, 2s, 5hs (FRC), run, c.5s, 6p, run, c.5s, 6p, c.5s, 6p, 2d. The following actually takes so long, that by the time you put down a mat, tension restrictions are gone and the combo paid for itself in superbar! Not only that, the opponent remains cornered, and you are gaining meter right next to them! You can also set the loop up in corner via non-CH Robo-Dash, FD, run up. EDIT: Sadly this might be character specific. #of reps in loop, etc. *TK SRK* Yes, it is susceptible to FD, but this badboy is a late game finisher! While many of you don't use Det. Mode, the tension building aspect of the super has great synergy for a last second corner TK SRK, ~ missile loop. I've ended rounds quite a few times, not even using Det. Mode, just by banking on this. It is just another great mixup tool that the opponent has to respect. *Forcebreak* This is so insanely fast now. I want to record a shitty cellphone camera video sometime soon of the myriad of gimmicks that are possible now. You can get away with truly retarded stuff because of the earlier cancel capabilities of this move. *80%+/Level 3 Heat 2s* In high heat mode if you land a 2k,~2s you can confirm into an aircombo. For ZERO tension. This is good, period. I realize managing your heat is a pain in the ass, but this buff is definitely welcomed. *Command Grab* As stated, damage nerf is unfortunate. In my playstyle however, landing this means I am almost assured a Punch Spam super juggle until I explode from Det. Mode. No more having to RC the end of the command grab and go into Punch Spam! Wahoo! I will say however I am a little underwhelmed by 80%+/Level 3 Heat 2hs Knee Rockets. Generally, you will use one, then immediately need to cool off with 6hs. This leads to a fairly predictable pattern that is easy to punish/evade etc. I have won a few rounds with these though, and it's always hilarious. More later. Happy Roboting!

Finally! I got to play a little bit at Shtkn's house. You guys need to get on that Level 3 heat punch spam super headbutt loop vs JO. Shit is too fun! I'll probably just mash training mode when I have some free time this weekend, but it would be great to get in some games vs you guys too. Hit me up if you see me on!

Good info! Look what GAKU has been up to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gztOhvbahHI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IQNrKk-_W0 Can't take much more of the wait for NA update, probably will cave soon.

Digging blocked 2k, blocked 2hs, FRC, TK SRK.

Hey guys, sorry I've been so busy lately. A lot of good discussion, and I wish the NA +R update was out already... Yes, that's my bad. I started switching over all the info I did for AC/data tables/move list here and there when I have some free time, but the main page needs to be initiated. If it's possible and you guys want to help out that'd be fantastic. As you can see for some of the other character pages the overall layout differs. Some of them have the Guilty Bits videos embedded etc. I'm open to suggestions on how to lay it out. It's cool to see so many posts about Robot again, after an extremely long lull.

This thread is going to become the 'watercooler' thread for Robot. Any questions, comments etc are to be posted right here! Use the links below to find what you're looking for: IN-DEPTH GUIDE AND TRANSLATED ROBO-KY DATA: Accent Core Robo Guide: http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3130 AC Robot Data: http://dustloop.com/guides/ggac/data/ac/roboky.html (Thanks to POScrub, Biologin, Robo-Teyah, Hate and possibly others!) MATCHUP SUB-FORUM: http://dustloop.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=47 ROBO VIDEOS: http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3375 MOOK PICS/SCANS: http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e330/DrStormlocke/Robo-Ky%20Accent%20Core%20Mook%20Pics/ Enjoy your stay!

Sick! Looking forward to the US release, hopefully soon. GAKU has been tweeting a lot, spending some serious time in the lab: http://twitpic.com/d7wyxq Can't wait to try and find some good stuff myself, though I have concerns that y'all seem to be talking about already.

Hrm, thanks for the input. I'll be waiting for the US patch/update. Gaku posted this Level 3 heat 2hs combo: http://twitpic.com/d6zkol Mind testing the air unblockable nature of Self Destruct explosion? Thanks!

Skip to the end to watch footage of Dogura winning the EVO GG side tournament with Robo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljmoplc6OA0 Can't wait for +R...

Definitely. Level 3 heat 2s is +1 on block on now. I chuckled when it was blocked the first time, so he just does another one and it connects. He almost got a sick Force Break extension off the subsequent aircombo as well. Simple stuff such as blocked bazooka vs a cornered opponent, empty jump, TK SRK is exciting as well.