Skillkill107

I kinda....refuse to vote while the options are yes no but I don't need a custom pad config.

I have no faith in that MG

I remember when you semi-regularly signed in to condescend and spew racist generalizations at a whim when people called your antics, ignored his general damage problems and pretended the only thing he needed was a boost dash melee buff. Or to be Zabanya when he was flavor instead of actually looking at other options. But while moving on from the topic of being generally sharp with people for no reason, the top three will probably stay up there for a while until they nerf Destiny's damage, and fix Norn/Wing TV's overall tools. As for the CSa buff, that's not really the biggest thing on it's plate and certainly didn't help Reborns,Nu, or Hi-Nu with their respective problems. The suit's general mobility and performance has been massively improved and it's new cancel routes will only further improve it's handling, I don't disagree with the idea that it could be an A tier suit, but a solid CSa alone does not make a grand suit on it's own.

I'll try to help you on Norn and Strike Ootori, RE-GZ's damage ranges are too much for me to wanna play around with though...

He's top B, which puts him pretty interchangably with bottom A tier, so no he's prolly not going to get buffs knowing that unless most of 3k gets buffs along with him which is more likely to happen. You can stop demanding WZTV nerfs while demanding your baby to be buffed and have full screen Zabanya beam like you did last time. WZTV is no longer surviving and dragging out 8 minute rounds and your baby is not even without that because he wouldn't keep up with the heavy weight melees even if he could rush them harder. Suit variety is relatively solid right now despite your claims. This game is not RVZ2, EXVS or FB. It is own beast. Treat it as such and let go of characters that bother you instead of clinging desperately onto a character's old iteration. Arguments in context of RVZ2 went nowhere last time and have very little place here unless the devs decide to humor you and bring back the systems and mechanics that would favor the Strike Freedom within that game slightly more than they do here. Having said that Strike Freedom is mostly "weak" right now because even if he had a boost dash melee he'd be "weak" due to his lower than average damage and the fact that his overall pressure would still tilt ranged, buffing his BD melee would not prevent players from picking S drive and pounding away. His strengths would still be evasion and if he pushed up his partner would have to defend themselves just like if he were playing his old asymmetrical neutral like WZ-EW, he'd just be rushing up in enemy's face rather than running from him when his partner got rushed. Which would still end poorly if he were trying to melee rush anyone good in melee, due to his short range and poor ability to trade damage in melee would just mean the other top tiers would just deploy their various anti-melee tools and deny him anyway even if they did believe him to be a big enough threat to actually connect his boost dash melee. If his gerobi were on a shorter cool down it would likely only mitigate his current issues rather than resolve them because they're endemic to the suit itself and broadly attempting to improve his kit would require a massive rework that would only break him rather than actually make him a more interesting mobile suit to play. With all that said it would probably be accurate to say demanding a suit to become omni-comptent instead of just demanding the damage buffs it would need to stop tickling and actually trade evenly in damage wars is probably not the best way to go about things. Kanos says it's based on their tourney win rates, not any mechanical changes which is why suits are fluid within their tier list without any mechanical changes. EDIT: Nevermind it's just general win rates, not just tournies

They aren't happening, since it already got buffed for more boosts. Destiny was lacking in FB, and it plays to the strengths of the current game, the buffs were necessary and they help it thrive. Nu is back to being solid but Hi-Nu still has his classic problems. SF using melee is silly anyway. D:

Most PVs have their frame rate cut by 2/3rds or a half so don't get too upset

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fezo5XNtruM Altron since nobody posted it

I kinda pulled my head out because you were making sense up to a point, but can you not sling shit at nearly the entire western hemisphere? Most EXVS players in the west have played in Japanese and and play ranked too so....I think it's massively unfair to just categorize the EU/US as a mentality with the entire nation just because they are not from your country.

I'll give you that. Nobody's really disputing what Kira said beyond some of the more questionable things. Balance is problematic in Maxi boost but telling us things we already know, in accompanying broad statements is what frustrates me. It is very different to me when you say "These 3ks are bad because they have lacking performance qualities in comparison to other suits." and then you elaborate on your post, and Kira did in fact do that in his second post. However just stating the broad statements that are easily dis-proven even from a casual player like "people only attack until they have F-burst/EX burst" make it very frustrating to sort out which points he's making are valid and which are more emotional or centered around the rumor mill.

I normally don't play grammar nazi as it's easy to pick apart my own mistakes, but it's difficult to read a post that has a line break every chance it takes. I'd rather just clear this up with him now than deal with it again if I can. It's the spirit of the thing that's more the problem. They force turnabout situations that otherwise aren't really earned in matches. Someone can play perfectly then get wrecked by an S-drive suit spamming them to death or a single punish from an F-drive, it's just not a very fun thing to lose your ass to.

First off thank you Kira, Sabator and especially you Luke for clearing up a lot of what Kira wrote and putting it in much better terms. I don't think anyone had a positive reaction to the drive system even stateside since UMvC3 carries a lot of stigma for X-factor amongst non-players or casual players who have very plainly seen players of lower skill mash out wins against much better players by mashing buttons. The drive system seems like it's just carrying on that mentality to become accessible and it backfired by simply reverting to the EXVS meta that nobody really liked to begin with sans more melee centric players. However while I thank you for clearing up your initial post Kira it doesn't make your argument stronger to make the assumption we believe the game is balanced either. Nobody has said that and by presupposing that we hold an opinion you are bullying us into winning an argument that didn't exist until you started it. Even in my own admittedly curt statement I was asking for verification on your thoughts since they're not entirely well developed. You're right, what's balanced and what isn't IS readily apparent to the point where some of the things you're saying do not make sense. A B tier 2.5k was always worse than an S or A tier 2k, even in FB or EXVS so you aren't helping your case by using that as evidence. Most of your statements on 2.5ks were true in Full boost and do not help explain why they are so powerful in maxiboost. Stating something is worthless is not the same as developing a point to that effect and complaining that your suit isn't S tier because it's not like it was in a previous game does not help your discussion on game balance. It is not an argument to say "don't get me started" on a topic, it is actually leaving a topic unexplored and not developing your argument. Additionally 2chan, much like 4 chan is still an anonymous forum with troll posts and basically do not give a damn about basic decency or actually making sense. This is not to say your points are invalid as the other posters here have pointed out in some cases but if you aren't willing to make your argument for yourself I'm much more inclined to just wait until someone who is willing to speak to me without condescending to me comes along and brush you aside instead of machine translating 2 chan line by line and re-translating it to sift through the lines upon lines of players calling each other "Industrial waste" So while I'm on the topic of language barriers, Kira since it seems like the finer points of English aren't really your forte lemme give you a quick tip for you moving forward: A line break (Hitting enter) in written English means you're either ending a thought or you're developing a point in a way that readily highlights the fact you are doing so like a guided list to prevent confusion. A sentence that is line broken simply for emphasis looks ugly and does not contribute to your idea, and a line break added too early makes your idea stand on it's own and isolates it from any supporting evidence that you may be contributing to it, thus making the idea itself look incomplete. Adding a line break every line makes it seem you're trying to pad out your post to make yourself seem like you're saying more than you actually are or you can't develop your ideas and thus every line where you under-develop a concept is now just that much more apparent and difficult to want to read the rest of your post even though you clearly have some comprehension of what you're trying to say to people. Most people take this as incredibly rude as akin to saying it's not worth your time to actually complete your thoughts but given you seem to do this habitually I'm just going to assume that this is resultant of a lack of experience with the language than actual malice. So on that note...following those rule you have not actually written a paragraph longer than 65 words yet....and a paragraph that is two thousand words long is malformed as well.

Can we get some verification on the things Kira's posted? This seems....like a lot of broad generalizations that seem to be summed up as Come back mechanics suck and are awful. F drive sucks and it's awful. Zabanya/Wing/Banshee suck and they're awful People in arcades have abandoned Maxi in Japan and nobody plays it.

I don't disagree with that. That's not a problem though. First form is better at playing a neutral and honestly FAUC seems much stronger in the rear than the front position. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRkubFe4J_Y

With that said can someone provide a current tier list to corroborate his statement? I don't mind what you said so much as the fact it's not reflected in our last available tier list on the forum, where there were seven top tier 3k suits I'm left without anything to quantify your statement. Additionally can you explain why each of the cost ranges are the way they are? Saying 3ks are more balanced, 2ks are worthless and suddenly how 2.5ks are the best does not explain why they are the way they are and as such cannot be quantified beyond an opinion. This is especially palpable when according to your own statement A rank MS are considered strong, and last avalible tier list reflected that there were plenty of 2ks in A tier. I just want to get some clarification because I'm uncertain of what you're trying to say.