Povard

found what I'm pretty sure is an optimal meterless route off markless 5B in the corner. 5B > 2C > 5B > 2C > 2C > 5B > TCL > 6A > 6B > j.ABC > j.D ~3770

Ah, was it? I skimmed over the thread to see if it was but didn't really dig deep in to the OP. Not surprised, all things considered.

So I don't really post often, or ever even, but I found something actually dumb enough to be worth it for once. Works only on Jin and Izayoi only, or at least as far as my testing revealed, anyways. I feel like I was pretty thorough about it, but if someone can find a way to make this work on more characters it's definitely worth it. The gist of it is that after a TCL wallstick you can link a 2D that hits as high as possible, and as a result of 2D's improved recovery in 2.0, you can link 5A afterwards. This means you get free double marks off pretty much anything. It'll work anywhere that has TCL putting you right in the corner. Some examples: [uW] 5B > 2C > 6D > 6A > 5B > TCL > 2D > 5A > j.A > j.B > j.C > dj.D = ~4924 Damage and 37 Meter (you can link a 5C here instead of 5B after 6A and push the damage up to around 5.1) CH 5B > 3C > TCL > you get the idea Air Hit 6C > 5A > TCL > etc. Works off forward and back throw as well: B+C > TCL > 2D >... 4B+C > TCL (delay the second hit slightly for extra height) > 2D >... also works off air hit 5A, but you're not likely to confirm without CH. You need to go straight in to TCL for it to work. Also doesn't work off of air throw. Sorry for the somewhat lazy notation, but the biggest damage loss I saw with this about 400 on a [uW] 5D CH combo, so I didn't think it was too important here. The biggest disappointment is that this only works on 2 characters ;__;