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P4U2 2.0: Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs Sheri (Sho) Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs Sheri (Sho) Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs Sheri (Sho) Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs Sheri (Sho) Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs S. Chie Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs S. Chie Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs achei (S. Rise) Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs S. Chie Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs Sheri (Sho) Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs S. Chie Hyuki (Elizabeth) vs Bashiri (Adachi)

P4U2 2.0: Yu vs. Setora (Elizabeth)

P4U2 2.0: Hiyuki (Elizabeth) vs. Rolly (Aigis) Margaret vs. Elizabeth S. Mitsuru vs. Elizabeth

P4U 1.1: Doobylovah (Yukiko) vs. Atarax (Elizabeth)

Minazuki vs. Elizabeth achel (S. Rise) vs. Elizabeth Minazuki vs. Elizabeth Minazuki vs. Elizabeth Labrys vs. Elizabeth Labrys vs. Elizabeth Minazuki vs. Elizabeth S. Yukiko vs. Elizabeth S. Mitsuru vs. Elizabeth

Marie vs. Hyuki (Elizabeth)

P4U 1.0: Jive Turkey v Atarax Sets P4U 2.0: Renimaru (S. Ken) v Elizabeth S. Teddie v Elizabeth Elizabeth v Win (Margaret) Sarada (S. Akihiko) v Setora[?] (Elizabeth) S. Yosuke v Mikeo (Elizabeth) Kuranyu (Yukari) v Mikeo (Elizabeth) Mikeo (Elizabeth) v S. Yukiko S. Teddie v Setora[?] (Elizabeth) Elizabeth v Kazuusha (S. Kanji) bukky (S. Yukari) v Setora[?] (Elizabeth) S. Junpei v Setora[?] (Elizabeth) Setora[?] (Elizabeth) v Kazuusha (S. Kanji)

1) AFAIK, not really. You just have to figure out a timing that works for you, be it number of hits, height, etc. 2) I usually can get it if I only let the j.B hit once. I think the main thing is that the opponent needs to be close to you, otherwise they'll be able to tech out. 3) I would learn them (at least one midscreen/one corner version), if only for Shadow Mitsuru/Chie/Naoto. The corner versions are actually quite easy to do; only the midscreen ones really any timing with the microdashes. If you can get a FC in the corner, it's even easier. Sometimes you can go into it without enough meter and go for a reset since a lot of people will be super jumpy and spam FA or roll to try to get out.

Could also be you are hitting him and destroying the projectile that way before it hits you. I know I've hit Marie's before out of their card super with it.

Oh yeah, that video's fun. I think the Garu starter off CH in Awakening is the only one I stole and use though.

Ah, I get it. Yeah, they'd still have the wallbounce etc.

??? No it doesn't. You are cancelling the throw's recovery with Mudo so you will still have Mudo's recovery, unless I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to say.

Some random AoA combos (as if we hit with it ever) I was messing with, not sure how good they are: Non-Awk: AoA D (FC) > B Mind Charge > 5A > 5AA > Sweep > D Garu > j.C > SB Garu [4] > 2C > SB Zio 4k ish (idr the exact damage) Awakening setup + blue health recovery, gets you back to about 50% hp (effectively 6.1k ish) Needs 50 meter Awk: AoA D (FC) > B Bufu > 2D > 5B > 5BB > Sweep > SB Garu [4] > 2C > SB Zio Like 3 or 4k + poison damage (idr the exact damage) Needs 50 meter Are these actually good or am I bad? lol

I'm almost 100% sure he is meaning to pressure after Mudo since its unblockable. But yeah, I didn't think it was fast enough for that but maybe I'm wrong.

1) Corner throw > Mind Charge to something? One more cancel is bad??? At mid screen I might be able to find something (*not sure on this) 2) Corner throw > Hamaon has bad proration but it seems like it's all you can do midscreen 3) Corner throw > Diarahan to something? 4) Corner throw > Ghastly Wail > Wha? 5) Corner throw > Mamudoon -> Yes

1) Nope. Seems useless, since as was said, you can get 6k off less meter anyway. 2) It's not super useful to that IMO, since 5C takes 2 stocks (although I did notice that the 5C buff affects each slash seperately, so having 2 2C buffs then doing a 5C does more damage than having 1 2C buff and doing 5C). I've seen some combos that need 3 or so and do good damage but more than that just seems to force to spam 2C'd 5C and eat the SMP penalty. 3) I really only use it for 2C > 5C pressure, but now that 5C will launch them it seems to whiff unlike in the P4A... 4) Only on wakeup and round start tbh...you could use it to hard bait DPs or in some weird situations like anti-reversal baiting but it's still kind of bad. 5) You should be getting pressure on a safejump because if they try to do anything other then block you should hit them and pressure/combo, or if they DP you should land and block it (except for Yosuke's BS DP lol)

In this version since j.D has less untech time, if you start with your back to the corner you can do 5AA > 5B > 5C > A Bufu > j.D, then reset them in the corner with 2B, pretty sure it catches basically all techs if you time it right.

Does j.B > j.D safejump even work in this version? If you have a decent combo they can tech in the air (which can be good, I use it for 2B resets all the time in Awakening heh). Anyway, I haven't seen anything. Don't forget about [2C] pressure in the corner either.

5D > rising j.B > j.A > j.C > 2A doesn't work in this version (at least not consistently). I think you can get it by fiddling with delays and stuff but it's not the same across everyone. I remember 5Ds untech time got increased in 2.0, so there are some weird things you can't do like 5D > delay till corner > 5AA > ...

Most of them aren't from what I remember. Autocombo routes are impossible because A Bufu hitstun isn't good enough. Can't Mindcharge off A bufu or Hamaon off of a throw so those are out. Unawakened B Zio got a massive speed upgrade so you can do 2C > B Zio like in the old days (I think maybe even 5C > B Zio with 2C flag up works but idr) Awakened D Garu is more annoying to combo off of, you have to go D Garu > j.C > SB Garu unless it's the first hit and it's counter or fatal counter.

I believe they are considered seperate moves by the game, but I can't remember for sure now.

Thanks! I'll take a look!

You can hold 4 during the autocombo you will always get the meterless version IIRC. Also, anyone have a list of enders that you can get safejumps off of for Liz? I know you can do it off D Agi enders, and I've heard you can do it off some j.C enders but I could never figure out how.

Aguro's Tweet: SS: Shadow Mitsuru, Shadow Chie, Mizazuki S: Ken, Yu A: Aigis, Labrys, Yukiko B: Akihiko, Sho, Margaret C: Yosuke, Kanji, Elizabeth, Teddie For characters not listed above, I have no idea. As new people use the characters and come up with stuff, this list will change so take it with a grain of salt.

Yeah, I think it's Damosu. 2014 *blah blah* Damosu Man.