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I usually use dash -> j.c -> j.236bbbb ender on Carl, though I remember seeing the j.c -> 9d~6 -> j.b one in a video and went, "That seems cool to do, oh well." I'll have to give it a shot next time someone picks random and ends up with Carl. (No Carl players locally and I don't really play online anymore.) Though I guess it doesn't matter as much anymore with CS Carl's hitbox. I'll also have to try using taunt to replace 5c. I assume you follow with 236a before 2d~6? Does it work in the corner? (Though in corner I try for 5d~c -> 5d~a -> 5c -> 2d~5 -> 5d~c -> 5d~a -> 9d~6 -> j.c -> 9d~6 -> j.236bb -> j.236bbbb after 3c. I think there is a way to get one more drive hit during the part after 3c, but it might be something that only works offa forward throw in the corner and using j.4d~5.) Gives me a good reason to dust off the old CT training mode I guess. Thanks for the advice.

I think for a combo like 5b -> 3c -> 5d~d -> j.c -> j.236b -> j.2d~b -> 5c -> 2d~6 -> ( j.c -> j.9d~6 ) x2 -> j.236bb -> j.236bbbb, the following characters have the same required delay (like you can time the delay when performing j.236bb -> j.236bbbb the same for all of them once you find the timing for it): Jin, Ragna, Noel, Taokaka, Litchi, Nu, Hakumen, Arakune, Rachel. For Tager, it seems you almost want to not delay as much at all, but I can't remember for sure right now. I think if you apply the same sort of delay you do to the other characters, it ends in Tao going under Tager and not getting the full damage and knockdown. For Bang I remember having to delay parts like j.c -> 9d~6 but when it came to j.236bb -> j.236bbbb the timing was about the same for the other chars. As for Carl... fuck Carl. (I think the timing is about same too. I just haven't learned any Carl specific combos that gets to this ender.)

You want to delay the first j.236bb after you do the final j.5c -> j.9D~6. You can't delay it too much, because they will tech, though the window isn't too strict. If you delay the first part, you can perform the last j.236bbbb immediately after the first two hits and they should connect.

Apparenrly PSN decided to behave last night and was getting me a chance to play a lot of low latency games. Invited my local Noel friend for some player matches and saved one replay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAdwTALcg3E So, I dunno, seems like blocking 2D gives a free 3C chance if they continue their drive combos, but I'm not sure how legit it is against Noels that do things than just spamming 2D all day.

You get two iterations of j.c -> j.8d~6. 5b -> 6a x1 -> JC -> j.2d~b -> Taunt -> 236cc -> 2d~6 -> ( j.c -> 8d~6 ) x2 -> j.236bbbb should be the full combo. You also should start j.236bbbb early for all 4 hits to happen.

If you are too close to the corner it will likely miss. If you time it too early, you will not be able to connect a second vertical drive in the air. Too late, Tao will go above the opponent during 2d. Try getting it to work on the opponent in their starting position at the start of the match, since that is far enough from the corner for the combo to work. Also I usually try practicing it on Jin, as the other characters feel more lenient when it comes to this combo, aside from Carl.

A few replays with a local friend. (He just started so and isn't confident enough to try Noel's 6c combos yet online.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-69ItYeWs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Y-a2tQgx0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Da4_BBATvc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU9emXsqqAs Next one is with another friend, we tend to get goofy lag, though sometimes we get a nice connection. (We are in same state, so it's kinda annoying that we don't get better connections most of the time.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnTshwGIkVQ

j.236bb -> j.236bbbb is pretty much about delaying the first j.236bb. I could be wrong, but the way it feels for me once I learned about delaying the first set of Cat Spirit Two, I do not have to delay the last set at all, and actually seems that I need to put the command in pretty fast to get all 4 hits in.

You can continually re-grab people after Tao's air throw using various methods, like 6a -> j.b+c, 236aa -> j.b+c, or my favorite, 214d -> back air dash -> j.b+c. Only really works online in laggy situations as it can help people fail the throw break. Really easy to throw break overall, but you can try it every so often, since netting that extra damage can be worth it, just be ready when it does get throw rejected. Generally if a character is too floaty or small for a second j.c -> 8d~6 in combos you can perform the first j.c -> 8d and not drive cancel it into air dash -> j.c -> j.236bbbb. It's less damage than you would normally get, but it does keep them closer to the ground so you can follow up. You can also still put an air throw after 2 hits of cat spirit two.

Even though it's horrible quality, (only way I have of recording anything is through my phone), I uploaded a video showing how much delay I use when pressing d~b for b drive cancels. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v205/yukichi/?action=view&current=dbtiming.flv The sound is out of sync but you can use the sound between the presses to guage the timing needed. I press d~b 5 times then try two combos. Edit: From 6a (1 hit) you cannot start j.2d too low to the ground, and not too high, but there is quite a bit of leeway still. The biggest thing for me was the timing between j.2d and b.

A good one to start with is 5b -> 6a (1 hit) -> j.2d~b -> taunt -> 236cc -> 2d~6 -> (j.c -> 8d~6) x2 -> j.236bbbb (don't delay the startup of Cat Spirit Two or you won't get 4 hits, and the opponent will be too high to do j.236bb -> j.236bbbb) (3938 damage) It's pretty good damage and pretty easy to pull off. Once comfortable with that one, you can try 5b -> 6a (1 hit) -> j.2d~b -> taunt -> 214d -> (delay here a little bit so the opponent is low enough to the ground) j.2d~b -> taunt -> 236a -> 2d~6 -> (j.c -> 8d~6) x2 -> j.236bb -> j.23bbbbb (3930 damage) (For this combo you really have to watch how high off the ground the opponent is during the iteration of the ground portion, if they are too high you will only be able to get 1 j.c -> 8d~6 iteration, as the second will be too low to hit the opponent. It's all about timing your delay.)

For Tager I like using 5b -> 3c -> 5d~6 -> ( j.c ~ j.5d~6 ) x3 -> j.a -> j.c -> j.8d~6 x2 -> j.236bb -> j.236bbb (3672 damage) It's easy and doesn't require much timing. Ragna you have to omit a j.8d~6 as he seems to tech out of it everytime for me, but you get similar results. As for drive loops off 3c, if you want it to work for all characters you have to use 5b -> 3c -> 5d~6 -> j.c -> j.236b -> j.2d~b variation or 5b -> 3c -> 5d~b (making the 5d hit) -> 5b -> 5c (sometimes have to omit 5c based on character) -> 2d~6 -> j.c -> 8d~6 -> j.236bb -> j.c -> j.8d~6 -> j.236bbbb or 5b -> 3c -> 5d~b (do b drive cancel early so you can off the ground the opponent) -> 5b -> 5c -> 2d~6 -> j.c -> 8d~6 -> j.236bb -> j.c -> j.8d~6 -> j.236bbbb

I can only ever really get j.c -> 5d~6 to work 2 times, (3 on Tager), and after j.a -> j.c the only thing that really works is j.8d~6. 5b -> 3 -> 5d~6 -> j.c -> 5d~6 doesn't work against Noel and Rachel, (Tao too I think),

What character are you trying it on?

When I was first learning the combo, I found that I was not properly timing the b cancel for j.2d~b. Same holds true for most other combos that involve b cancels. The timing for the 5c once you land on the ground isn't too lenient, but it is not bad at all. I hit 5c almost immediately after I hit b for the drive cancel. Edit: Also make sure you land j.c after 5b -> 3c -> 5d~6 as high as you can, the lower you are, the harder it is to land the rest of the combo.