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Well, yeah, but in that case the move just "stops" until he stops guarding, at which point he continues like normal, while in this case Bang continues to do his 2D even through all the hits. Set the training dummy to spam 2A with Ragna or something and run up and guardpoint it, he slows down but continues to do the 2D, and eventually the firepunch animation will appear with him still blocking the 2A spam, until it finally hits Ragna. This is opposed to, say doing 5D, where he'll block a bunch of 2A hits until he finally gets out of the autoguard frames and then gets hit like usual.

That's what I said, lol. Also can anyone confirm the frame data on 2D? I've yet to be poked out of a 2D after the guardpoint ever, which you would tihnk would be possible if there really were a ten-frame opening. I've had people hit the 2D guardpoint then start mashing 5As, only to have Bang continue blocking through every hit even after the flames were already visible. Does it somehow extend guardpoint frames through the hitstop or something weird like that?

Can anyone confirm if 6D is really a high-low guardpoint? From my experience it seems to be a mid-low guardpoint, not a high-low.

Dora has extremely good spacing is why. If you just watch his videos with no knowledge of Bang it all looks pretty straightforward, but if you actually try to reproduce the stuff he does in a real match against someone who is trying to kick your ass, you realize that he's actually doing some fairly complicated stuff.

It's kind of obvious that most of the ones who claim that Jin is "balanced" or even "subpar" are Jin players themselves. Not having a single disadvantageous matchup is hardly balanced when most of your matchups are actually to your advantage, especially against the top tiers. Also try to not suck in Bang Install and then tell me he's easy to use.

Dunno if this has been brought up before, but this combo is WAY easier if instead of "tap 6, hold D" you just do 4D, since he isn't really going anywhere anyway with the actual dash (you're just canceling the 2C) and with 6D you don't have to worry about overlapping with 6D. Probably already super obvious to everyone, just thought I'd bring it up.

I'd say Bang's got a comparatively high learning curve. The way his moves chain together aren't exactly intuitive and his guardpoints are pretty hard to use effectively. He's certainly a lot more difficult to learn to use well than, say, Ragna or Jin. On top of that Bang Install is incredibly difficult to use well, albeit still awesome. Certainly there are characters that are harder to play (Rachel and Carl come to mind) but you're not exactly going to get as much mileage with him at any given level of skill as you are with, say, Nu or Jin.

I thought reverse icespike was 2D.

Not really related, but isn't Jin's weapon clearly a katana?