Zoogstin

The way I mostly play Zappa is have people try to come at me. They usually end up running into crap especially with the Ghosts and Sword. I only rush down when the time is right. At that point its game over cuz his rush down is soo good.

Holy crap!!! Good stuff Scream.

My gosh that is so brutal. I don't feel too sorry for Tager seeing as how I hate fighting him.

Okay guys I took into my hands to go over all of the Zappa love threads and completely update them to AC. Its long overdo. I individually went to through every move and made sure that they are properly described in their AC states. I also added combos as well as general strategies about how the summons should be played. Many details are more in-depth than they were before. I also tried to give more details on how to use the dog, which brings me to a perplexing question. I remember there being a really in-depth guide to how to use the dog. Where the heck did that go? So anyways I'm about to post all of the changes that I made. Look around for any mistakes but for the most part I would suggest deleting whats in the older threads and copying and pasting what I have here. You'll notice that what I have is still in the same format and order as when Dangief did the orginals. Hope you like them!! This extends to the second page for those of you whose settings have this. I'm still correcting this. I see that there are still some stuff I want to put in. Still open to suggestions about whats here.

Its just too bad of a quality.

Man I almost feel bad being a Zappa player right now. Dat sword is unbelievable.

Sad times. I saw the list yesterday as well. Kind of makes me sad but the sword still looks like its going to be pretty strong. The dog nerfs still seem a little much but I guess it will be okay. Also it sucks that his summon no longer gives him orbs.

Getting the midscreen infinite is not necessary. its something I would learn at some point just cuz its relatively easy.

Hey Phrek, GG's online is horrible, I live in Georgia and you live in New York. This sounds like a horrible idea but maybe we could get some matches in as well when you get power back. It would be nice to fight against another experienced Zappa player. We've been playing for years so it would be nice to see where we're at (minus the rust). If the connection is even remotely bad (which it probably will be) we can stop.

Zappa's too hard of a character to bandwagon. You have to put in a lot of effort if you want to actually take advantage of his S+ status.

New tier list. Zappa players rejoice: http://fgamers.saikyou.biz/?GGXXAC%2BR S+ Zappa S Faust, Chipp, Kliff, Millia A+ Dizzy, Axl, Jam, Eddie, Order Sol, I-no A Venom, Robo Ky, Johnny, Slayer, Anji, Ky B+ Sol, Bridget, A.B.A, Baiken, Potemkin, Testament, May B Justice

Aaaah good times...

I like it.

Yes there were no changes gameplay wise.

You have to think Zappa's 6P differently. His 6P is a great anti-air, I use it all the time, but not in the way that you think. If you anti-air with Zappa's 6P 9 times out of 10 it won't hit your opponent until they land. At best you'll catch them off guard when they land and you can go into a ground combo, at worst they'll block it. BOTH of these situations are good because you are put at an advantage. Every time you successfully anti-air with it you turn the tables and now you're all of a sudden putting on the pressure. Zappa's 6P won't get you air combos but instead ground combos. The only time 6P will get you an aircombo is on counter-hit which I fish for alot. Zappa easily has one of the most versatilbe 6P's in the game because its really great against ground normals as well. There are a lot of mid to high ground moves that Zappa's 6P will beat thus getting your a counter hit. If Zappa has no summon you would obviously combo into his summon Sword: Normal hit from 6P: 6P - 5S - 5HS (2 hit) 6P - 5S - 5HS (1 hit) - 63214HS Counter hit 6P: 6P - 5S - 2HS (1 hit) - jc.K - jS. - dj.S - j.HS/D Ghosts: On normal hit 6P: 6P - 5S - 2S - 5HS - 236S (you can frc to continue the combo) On counter-hit 6P: 6P - 5S - 5HS - 236HS (you can frc to continue into an air combo) As far as air-to-air moves, his j.P is respectable for catching your opponent of guard or through anticipating your opponents next move. Other than that remember one Zappa has the sword, j.S and j.HS become really good air-to-air tools.

The dog can only get hit when it is attacking or asleep (he turns into a puppy and is actually sleeping). The only exception is when you do 4D with the dog (the back flip). He can't be hit during that animation either.

XBL GT: Zoogstin Location: Atlanta, GA Usually Online: Friday or Saturday evenings.

Zappaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Anyone have any questions about him?

Wat chu talkin' Willis?

Doubt it. From what I've seen I don't think that has changed.

Yeah now I remember they did remove the unblockable bite but I also remembered they made the bite a ridiculously low level now. I actually think Lvl. 4 or 5 is too high compared to what they actually made it. I hope they didn't follow through with that though. Besides that I'm sad 2H stagger is gone. Dog still looks very threatening and the of course his other summons keep getting better every version.

Actually I just realized that the spit change is a nerf. I think it is in response to the dog's unblockable bit (or did they take that out)? Zappa's in Japan will often use the last part of the f.S to keep the opponent in blockstun long enough to get hit by the dog's 2D. However now, if the opponent gets hit by the spit and gets put in the air, when the dog bites them they might be able to tech before they hit the ground.

Yeah I noticed all of those. The dog does look slower interms of startup and recovery frames. And the sword whiffs do have my concerned although as a whole the sword does appear stronger. I am happy about the spit knocking down. Also did anybody notice how Zappa's summon otg's? If the opponent is knocked down and the Zappa hits him/her with a summon they get knocked up as if they were standing rather then put them in quick tech state. The means if we have meter we can get full combos off of a naked airthrow. BUFF!!!!

I think Relius is inside of Ada.

Oh if only...