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  1. I just told you what IS canon. The characters. But maybe not the story itself. That's just how GG Gaiden was explained. Unless we get more information on Baiken's Xrd story, it's extremely hard to confirm what sources they will use. There's two stories being told here: Baiken's Story and Japan's. Whether or not they coincide I can't be certain. Xtra talks about Japan in the Crusades and external info supports that in broad strokes BUT it doesn't go in to strong details on Baiken's Story as much as the GG Anime video did. I'm not dismissing evidence, I'm pointing out LACK of evidence. Baiken herself is 100% Canon, but various sources that tell her backstory may not meet 100% canon. But that doesn't mean Xtra is noncanon, it just means parts of it aren't. I'd say Accent Core carries more canonical weight than Xtra, but only because nothing "else" really supports Xtra. If you can't accept that answer, then you don't have to think of GGXtra AS canon until there's more supporting evidence to say it is.
  2. I suspect that 'something new' might be a new mechanic to stir things up. Meanwhile GG Fanbase has been bashing BB CrossTag, guys, c'mon we're better than this.
  3. I use it as a reference for Ky's childhood, but so far it falls under Kaihou Norimitsu's work. LtA Novel GGXtra BaHG Novel Were written by him. GGXrd acknowledges the novels, but doesn't cite the Manga, and only barely mentioned Drama CDs Night of Knives and Side Red/Black. Golden Disc Drama CD cites Bernard from the Novel/Manga so he's canon. Characters are canon, like Tyr and Mizuha, but the order of events may not be canon yet. I'd have to wait and see. Ky's encounter with Dizzy in GGX was altered slightly in Rev2 too, so we'll see how things go.
  4. It's not clear yet, just "vague", the old man stated he lived most of his life in the Colony,and vaguely mentions parents who were Japan survivors, but his story and Baiken's "story outside GGXtra" do not entirely cooincide. GGXrd has yet to acknowledge GGXtra in name, not even mentioning its characters, even if Bernard was mentioned from the LtA Novel.
  5. There's certainly evidence May was born in the Colonies rather than Japan itself. But let's set "Amazing Geisha" May aside (who is older than she looks as she confessed to Chipp) for a moment. The very first time we even knew Japan was destroyed was in Baiken's backstory in Guilty Gear X in 2000. Anji's GGX Story supports this too, but doesn't give precise details of how her home and family were destroyed like Baiken's does. Guilty Gear Xtra Manga was released in 2003, 3 years after GGX and a year after GGXX came out. GGXtra was the first story to suggest that the Japanese had been sealed away for 100 years ("100 years without outside contact, blocked off"). Xtra is supposed to have happened during GGX events, not XX events, so assuming Xtra happened in late 2180 to early 2181, when Anji left the Colony, you would assume the Colonies were sealed from 2081 to 2181 if that 100 year seal is true. Anji never touched the Zessen before that time, so the kekkai barrier was always up and stopping intruders from entering or Japanese from leaving (Ky says without his medallion it is impossible to enter the barrier otherwise). Ky's recollection states he met Tyr roughly 15 years ago to the day they met again (2162 if Ky joined the Order in 2167). Xtra also goes on to add that it was considered a "Crime" for any Japanese to escape the Colonies (Axl Low states this to Mizuha)! Accent Core retroactively states Baiken escaped the Colony in 2180 to kill Justice, but how could that happen unless the Barrier was weakened? Unless Anji took the Zessen in 2180 and left at a similar time as Baiken? Before this, Baiken is never mentioned during the Crusades as having set foot outside the Colony. Now, you can either agree or disagree with the Canonicity of the manga, but characters like Bernard and such existed in the Drama CDs and Novels which were written/scripted by the same author. GGXtra, while fairly specific about certain things, is vague about others, the elder monk apologizes on behalf of Baiken, explaining her hatred of Gears to Ky during his investigation, stating her parents prevented the Gears from attacking by sacrificing their lives to protect her, however... Baiken's recollection was of Gears and a "man controlling them" whom she claims is the Gearmaker, "That Man". The Gears could not enter the Colony Barrier unless they were INSIDE the Barrier already, assuming that: 1. Baiken was attacked in the Colonies, rather than outside them. This makes more sense when you realize the Colonies were invisible inside the Himalayas and Justice fought her war mostly in central Russia and America at the time. Her war started in America. 2. Assuming that the story implied by "Ogre Valley" is true or somehow related, Gears were sealed or "dumped" inside the Colony alongside the Japanese. Geena called it a "Landfill" and she was a PWAB agent. Tyr even says he was "thrown out". Now, either Baiken was attacked by Gears INSIDE the Colony or OUTSIDE it. We can't determine which for sure yet. Baiken's story is sketchy as it is, but her recollection of a "human controlling Gears" contradicts what happened during the Crusades proper, as Justice was a Gear controlling other GEARS. Anji's recollection of Crow Kuruwaba is equally sketchy, so there's a story here that isn't being said yet. If Baiken was attacked outside the Colony that would have been 100 years ago, but if it WAS inside the Colony, then something else happened...
  6. Like I've been saying, Nationality has nothing to do with what people are affiliated with or where they currently live. The Arena is just indicating May is Japanese (Origin: Japan means Japanese), she still "lives" with the Jellyfish. Raven's FROM the "Holy Roman Empire", and neither that empire nor Germany that came after it exist anymore, Germany was annexed in to Illyria after the Crusades. But that doesn't change the fact Raven is German! Most of GGXrd's story about May further PROVED May was Japanese, so why are you debating this point? I-No's comment about Baiken's Age was in GGXX, Baiken's story. http://guiltygear.ru/files/faqs/Guilty_Gear_XX_The_Midnight_Carnival.txt I-No wasn't the only person to make that age comment either, Robo-Ky does too when he hits on her in ACPlusR, saying "she's passed the limit" (Robo sensors don't lie). Also, I-No's Bad Ending in ACPlusR shows that Baiken "awakens" even after I-No struck her down! Ky was shot in Xrd in a similar manner, guess what happened? During that scene Baiken even MENTIONS the Japanese having special powers (according to what she heard from Crow Kuruwaba of all people). Need more proof? The P.W.A.B. were "recovering the Japanese AND Gears", now why do you suppose they were given a task that lumps the Japanese in with Gears UNLESS there was some connection?
  7. Well, unless Faust comes up with a cure, I don't know what else to tell you. May's origin is a mystery yet too, as she just appeared outside the Colony in 2174 where Johnny found her. I can only assume her parents were trying to escape the Colony and little May got left behind, but that's a guess on my part. I don't know what really happened, nor does it account for May's ridiculous physical strength enough to spook Justice of all Gears. Baiken being able to slash a house in half with one arm is curious enough, but the fact the Zessen OutRage reacts to Japanese blood (OutRage are Anti-Gear weapons, they shouldn't respond like that to humans unless the user is exceptional at using Magic). I-No's comment about Baiken's age isn't easy to ignore after all this.
  8. I think you're getting confused. http://gear-project.tumblr.com/post/37901512592/baiken-bio-and-trivia Baiken's GGX Bio states her Birthplace was "Pre-Destruction Japan". It's in the Manual. https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1sf3grgzs12z99/Guilty_Gear_Manual_Archive.rar?dl=0 GG World Bio says "Colony" while her Arena Bio says "Japan". That's because she moved to the Colony AFTER Japan was destroyed. That should be obvious. Her PWAB Report states she lost her parents DURING the Crusades. 2074 is still considered the "beginning of the Crusades" according to how GG categorizes its history. Most older GG Bios don't say where characters are living, only where they were born. As of GG2 they started adding info where characters currently live and groups they're affiliated. Ky Kiske is French, but he's considered Illyrian because he's the High King of Illyria. Political lines were redrawn is all. As for the Japanese, no, they're "not quite" Gears, but they ARE sick because of the DNA taken from Justice. So far the biggest indicators are May and Mizuha with their Gear-like powers.
  9. For those who missed the events leading up to Japan getting destroyed. Variable X are Japanese who became Antimatter Gears because of Information Flares set off by the Universal Will.
  10. Interesting that old 6H had a wide lower hitbox, and yet I somehow managed to hit/crossup jumpers with it.
  11. Her "current" Homeland technically is the Dimensional Colony "Miyabi" (Miyabi is the largest of the Dimensional Colonies created for the refugees, specifically the Japanese during the Crusades.) According to the information I've been able to gather, there are several Japanese Colonies, with Miyabi as the largest, located in the Himalayan region. It's never stated how many other colonies there are or where the others are located. In addition, due to the Japanese "International Treasure" status (which is actual a Racial Quarantine after Japan was destroyed and the Gear mutations were discovered), other people have envied the preferential treatment the Japanese got, though these don't know the truth. The residents of South Africa are Crusades refugees who never received Government Assistance of any kind, so Chipp Zanuff set up his "Eastern Chipp Kingdom" there to get the United Nations to recognize them and send aid. Only certain medical doctors and staff as well as the Conclave knew about the Japanese having Gear-like symptoms, and they kept it under wraps. Doctor Faust was the first to recently stumble on the coverup when he treated May. It's not a retcon or a contradiction, just a well-kept secret. Baiken and other Japanese survivors originally lived in Japan, but after Gamma Ray and the "Black Sunrise" events, they migrated to the Colonies sealed by the Zessen to protect them. Justice didn't start her rebellion until other nations began to retaliate against her Gear Plant in America. From there, she waged her war primarily in Russia and Italy, increasing her army with every Gear Plant she ransacked.
  12. Baiken's words to Asuka when confronting him (she asks "Why did you kill them? Why did you burn them?"): http://gear-project.tumblr.com/post/25423681342/can-your-explain-why-did-baiken-decide-to-give-up Baiken's Childhood Recollection (1:33 mark of GGX Anime Video): http://gear-project.tumblr.com/post/97229802634/im-posting-this-here-because-of-reasons-leave Please note that this cutscene has parts that were retconned from actual GGX dialogue, but so far it's the only "evidence" depicting Baiken's Childhood according to her bio information. When Baiken's memory actually occurred during events is vague and unclear, but Daisuke Ishiwatari deliberately placed this information alongside the events that Destroyed Japan, so the two are connected, primarily because rampaging Gears were involved, but also their connection to "That Man". Another piece of "vague evidence" is the Conclave who were supposedly the Overseers of the Japanese Colonies. The Conclave Members Chronus and Axus supposedly have been "alive" since 1999. Libraria was the youngest member supposedly, but their recollections on Magic and lifespans date back at least 100 years according to Axus and Chronus. Chronus was an old colleague of Asuka's and even managed to live as long as he has! That is not direct evidence that Japanese live long lives, but it IS evidence that the Conclave have lived an exceptionally long time as Humans. How they did so is unknown. Baiken's memory may be vague, but it's the only vivid evidence we have that suggests she recalled the destruction of her people as a survivor. If future GGXrd Episodes reveal more about Baiken's past, we'll be able to paint a clearer picture of events. So far, however, because of the DNA transfer from Justice to Japan, it's implied most Japanese are Gears, and Gears are CONFIRMED to have long lifespans. The Japanese who turned in to Antimatter Gears are further proof of this, as is testimony surrounding them. Gears like Justice and Sol have lived 100 to 200 years, Dizzy's GGXPlus ending implies she'll live 200 years or more as well. Izuna, as a Youkai, is implied to have lived since Japan's antiquity if the "Killing Stone Legend" is connected to Izuna as implied by his GG2 story. Tyr from GGXtra is also a mystery, as he remained a child in appearance from 2162 to 2170 or so to get sealed away. He hasn't aged at all when Ky meets him again in 2181.
  13. Rev2 has a System Option to switch back to Rev1 (Revelator) unless that's not something the Steam Version can do.
  14. Sources for Longevity/Baiken's story: --GGXrd Sign cites Japan was destroyed in 2074, according to Baiken the Gears attacked her village shortly thereafter. Faust reads a book called "The Black Sunrise" which gives an account that the Japanese had mutated in to monsters and attacked their own. This book was mentioned in Revelator and jives with Baiken's account which was first told back in GGX. --According to GGXtra, the Japanese had been sealed away in Dimensional Colonies for 100 years. This accounts for 2074 to 2174 which was most of the Crusades. Anji Mito stole the Zessen in 2181, this removed the Colony Barrier allowing other Japanese to leave the Colony. Baiken had been inside the Colony until 2180 when she attacked Justice. How she escaped is unknown, just cited. May was found outside the Colonies in 2174 by Johnny, again, how she got out is unknown, or she was never in the Colonies in the first place. --It was said in GGXtra that only Japanese blood can activate the Zessen, however the Zessen is OutRage designed as an Anti-Gear device based on Gear Technology, and YET Anji Mito can wield it. The OutRage were built in 2075 in response to Justice being built. This means that Zessen has been in use for 100 years with no mention of the barrier being deactivated UNTIL 2181. --GGXXAC I-No says Baiken is older than she looks. --Baiken recalled a tall slender "man" standing among his Gears, however this may not jive with Asuka R. Kreutz account (Asuka was in America at the time Japan was destroyed in 2074)! Anji Mito claims he recalled Crow Kuruwaba in GGXXACPlus, who may in fact also be Japanese, said by Baiken to be a traitor to his people. Anji also implies Baiken mistook the Gearmaker for someone else in XrdRev2. Crow was sealed away in Dimensional Prison until 2175 when he created the Seal to trap Justice. --Maximus Ariels rose to power in 2177 and did not officially sanction the release of the Japanese until 2187, 10 years later, so Japanese residents have been sneaking in and out since before that time. In Accent Core Johnny asked Anji if he knew of any Japanese survivors living outside the Colonies. Anji said as of 2181 the only "escapees" were himself and Baiken, though he made no mention of Mizuha or Tyr. This rules out May who must have lived outside the Colonies for some time. --Baiken fought Asuka in 2181 during GGXX events but was too weak to fight him, choosing to grill I-No for answers instead but Anji stops her. Anji meets with Asuka who explained everything to him. Anji decided to help Asuka recapture I-No in Accent Core with Raven's help. After that Anji stood by Baiken while watching Asuka from a distance. --Baiken's recollection says she watched her family "burn" before her eyes, this jives with Gamma Ray being fired in 2074, and Baiken was a child at the time. --Baiken has the physical strength to cut a house in half if her Instant Kill is accurate, she wonders if she's actually an "Oni" or Demon, though the rhetoric in her Intro implies all Gears are Demons making this world Hell itself from her perspective, which would make her a Gear in irony. --Anji Mito was said to live in the "same village" as Baiken so he is technically a survivor, however his account of the events back then suggests he was too young to recall what happened, which is why he refers to Baiken as "big sis" (Anesan) being older than he is. Yet he does recall Crow, so the "invasion of Gears" that Baiken recalls may not be the same as the Crusades that happened outside Japan. Ogre Valley stage implies there was a war with Ogre Gears being fought INSIDE the Colony sometime later, which may or may not be related. --The images depected in the book "Black Sunrise" of 2074 are identical to the Antimatter Gears (like Juzo Sano) that appeared in 2187, these also jive with Asuka's 2074 Report in Xrd Sign of the "Variable X" creatures, described as "giants with faces". --May's Gear-like physical strength has been apparent since 2180, but she started feeling "Ki Overflow" symptoms in Xrd Sign as of 2187, this jives with Dr. Faust's medical notes on the medical treatment of the Japanese who eventually had to take Placebos or get "Tuned" to ease their symptoms. Baiken had described feeling berserker-like symptoms in Accent Core if you follow her bad ending, this also jives with Mizuha's awakening symptoms in GGXtra and May as well in the first GG. Mizuha was also drawn to the Gear Asteroid "Mothership" in GGXtra due to her electromagnetic power to resonate with it. --Answer states in Rev2 that his ability to detect Ki is very poor, but even HE was able to sense Baiken's Ki from far away. Only Gears like Justice and Valentines can generate such a "loud" Ki Signature signal (Kum Haehyun, Chipp, and Jam all cite this to be true), especially during the Babylon incident with Justice' Cradle Form which Chipp says was a massive amount of Ki. --I should also add that Baiken has exceptionally long hair now, which could be a tell-tale sign of being a Gear, as according to Sin Kiske and Ky, they have to get haircuts every few days.
  15. Uh, I was talking about the "old" 6H, but okay.