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Johnny forum complaints/questions/suggestions.

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Ok I realize I riddled this forum with tons of topics but it's more of an attempt to keep it organized. This is moreso a topic for me to update you guys on the guide as well as anyone to ask me questions or anything like that. I deleted most of the useless topics, or truly old and dead ones with no info. I deleted a few with useful information but I saved the info before closing them. The remaining threads are generally large so I will need to take some time to file through them and merge/save useful posts and just make them easier to read and access, but that is not on the top of my list of things to do so for now those topics will stay. My Guide/FAQ is my top priority right now and it's quite a giant project so you'll need to bear with me. Anyways hopefully we can make this forum cleaner, more useful, and easier to access and read.

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Alright I've begun to solidify the forum setup a bit better. Sorry for all of the stickies but I think it's a necessity. I'd like some feedback on the character specific section before I add more to it. Should I just have 1 compiled list like the one that is listed under general? Or should I also add in the specific character sections like the few I filled in below? What would be easiest for reading?

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Nice work on cleaning up the forum. I think this was a nice and readable change for everyone who is new/old to this forum. The guides seems to be alot of needed info, can't wait to read the rest of the stuff. Good job Redbeard ;)

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Ah thank you :) Cleanup isn't nearly done though! So much left to do! So little time! Hehe. I have finished setting up the basic layout for the Character Specific Information topic. If people could take a glance at that topic and let me know if they find it helpful I would appreciate it. Let me know if things are too confusing or tips for the layout or anything. Thanks <3

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ah, you took out the character specific section. Still looking good. People can just use the general list to make their own specific lists or whatever.

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Hmm well I removed it for now but I could put it back up if people want to see it. I just figured that a huge list with each and every character may be reudandant or messy looking when the list is easier to compile in a short list.

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Added a bit more to the FAQ, including the completed changes list for Johnny in AC thanks to WhimW/WimW/UimuW. Might wanna take a peak some interesting stuff there like the changes to Jackhound and whatnot!

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Is there a difference between Johnny's Mist Stance and his Kamae Stance?

"Kamae" means Stance in Japanese. There's no Kamae Stance, as that would be saying "Stance stance", just Kamae Cancel/Mist Cancel are the same thing. I don't think the term Kamae Stance is ever used or if it is that's improper! Should just be Mist Stance.

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Amazing job, thank you, the New Johnny Bible is being written right now ! It may not seems like it, but all of this hardwork is really time-consuming, so having some good players dedicating their time to share their wisdom is generous from all of you. About the Forum rules : So true about "most of us dudes in the Johnny forum are nice", he is a gentleman after all, so are his players. :v: I haven't understood your question about the character specific feedback, but it looks fine as it is right now. For the match-up thread, if I may, a list of all the characters (each one a link to the appropriate post) as a first post, then alphabetically one post for each character, both matchup suggestions and punishes/direct counters/poking game would look better in my humble opinion.

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Yessir, New Johnny Bible being written. So please be patient! There's a lot to write! Updated the FAQ a little more, now typing up the Match, Combo, and Offensive/Defensive guide setup.

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For the match-up thread, if I may, a list of all the characters (each one a link to the appropriate post) as a first post, then alphabetically one post for each character, both matchup suggestions and punishes/direct counters/poking game would look better in my humble opinion.

Great idea, I'll get to work on that now.

I updated the character specific section with the Jumping/Backdash/Stagger specifics, did a general cleanup to try and make things easier, and seperated the two sections with two different posts.

If anybody has a list of mid screen one hits they could post here that would save me some time as I've been doing pretty nonstop testing in my free time. I know some of the mid screen dashjump 1 hits but not all of them or anything, and testing them is a bit time consuming since the timing is so strict. I'll eventually get it done if nobody has a list, but it would save me quite a bit of time.

If I could get a list of the simplest ones for each character that would be a great help. Even if you don't know all of them, posting which ones you DO know would save me time.

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Stagger links according to recovery level is sweet, thanks ! Scrubby question, what do you mean with "mid screen 1-hit" ? Is it from a throw or from any launcher (MF-S(2), 6P, 6K) ? As you state "dash jump", it seems it is after a throw. Either case, could you put just a few examples ? Out of curiosity, I tried, from the middle of the screen and on AX, ED and KY : throw > dash jump, j.P, aircombo but the timing to connect the j.P is pretty strict and hard, making me fail numerous times. I guess practice is needed, since I never knew you could do that hence never tried before. When you dash jump, you do have to hear the dash noise, even if JO doesn't seem to have move forward (early JC), don't you ? Maybe old, still middle screen on PO : throw > j.PPSDE(1) throw > j.PKSDE(1) Piece of advice, if delay there is, depending on your rhythm of pressing the buttons, it should be between the j.S and the j.D, not the Ensenga or it will whiff.

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Well one pretty basic one hit that works almost all the time. if you are the one near the corner, just do MF(s)[lvl2] and Tk Ensenga, the opponent will be behind you in the corner, knocked down.

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Pulled myself away from playing #r online and tried working on some 1hits from midscreen off a throw. I wanted a single, simple, combo that would work on the whole cast. I ended up with this. Sadly it only works on half the cast. :sigh: throw, j.P-K>KJ(frc), D>Ensenga ABA Dizzy Jam - Slight delay after throw Ky Robo-Ky Testament Bridget - Delay as long as possible after the throw Chipp Millia Eddie Venom Axl - Works near corner -_- Haven't gotten to work on: :arg: Slayer Anji Faust Order-Sol Sol Zappa Others: throw, j.P-K>JC, KJ(frc), Ensenga May - The 1hit hits underneath and backwards, lol throw, j.P-K>KJ(frc), Ensenga Baiken - backwards 1hit throw, P-K-S-D>Ensenga Potemkin You might of already found these or found others that are even better/simplier.

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The new korean Johnny vid had the dash throw combos on pretty much all the female cast and they were almost all the same combo.

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There it is. Dizzy, May, Millia, Baiken, I-no, Bridget, Jam: Throw, p,k,s, jc,k,s,d ensenga It looks to me like a dash jump.

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Thank you very much guys! I appreciate the help and I'll get to writing that up. Now, I am going to do the combo guide because it seems like that has the most urgency. If anything is too difficult to read, looks too bunched, or is in any way just not user friendly just lemme know so I can fix it. That's one of my biggest concerns is that the stickied guides will be too overwhelming for newer players or too confusing to read. I have a tendency to go into TOO much detail, and I'm not sure if my points get lost in them. So again if anything is wrong with the format lemme know! Combo guide should be up later today, not completed though. Matchup topic is now open for discussion but will remain stickied. For now, that is on the end of my priorities because well, matchups still need to flesh out a little and there are much more basic matters to attend to!

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I've begun serious work on the Combo guide, but it takes a lot of testing and whatnot so it's moving at a slower pace than I'd like. So take a gander at the combo topic if you have a minute and gimme some suggestions. Ignore the "builders tools" I left in there :p.

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Sorry folks, errors in the MC chart in the AC:Gameplay Specifics sticky. It's all fixed up now.

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Oh, and I dunno if I mentioned this or not, but

the Johnny frame data we had on Dustloop had a few errors. I fixed all the ones I've found and got it updated.

http://www.dustloop.com/data/ac/johnny.html

If anyone finds any more errors or whatever, let me know and I'll do something about it.

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