Solex Report post Posted October 6, 2011 No 2c>5c really does make me sad and "bang being a tough match up" great just great i already hate bang as he is everything makes decent sense but is still sad to see go like j.c attack level ice wave being damage practical sounds lol i guess if we want damage now we have to sacrifice oki for it which is kinda cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted October 6, 2011 Man, the 6C nerf is worse than I thought. There goes our combos on crouching opponents :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted October 7, 2011 Man people jumping the gun so quick..of course if they keep trying to do old shit that doesn't work he's going to look bad. I'll wait till he's in the players hands for more than 2 days and just accept the fact that we're only easy mode autopilot in odd number games. No offense to inuo but he isnt exactly poster boy jin and he was playing dora and a very solid hazama. Inuwo Jin VS Dora/Oracle www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB_8rpVCKxs#t=2m36s Inuwo Jin VS Dora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSTAUVef2gc#t=2m39s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan257B Report post Posted October 7, 2011 I'm with Jourdal, I'm sure they'll come up with some new stuff as time goes by. I am gonna miss 2C>5C though = / Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted October 7, 2011 2C>5C will definitely be missed....as will the old 6C but we either get used to it, drop the game or switch to ragna like yutta did lololololyouwillnotbemissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted October 7, 2011 Um..i thought CH jC>2D didnt work...i just saw tetsu do it :V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Report post Posted October 7, 2011 these changes suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shinsyn Report post Posted October 7, 2011 Um..i thought CH jC>2D didnt work...i just saw tetsu do it :V Really? I was pretty skeptical about that change too like it should work and they wouldn't take it out. But before I jump the gun, it was a red beat wasn't it? If so, then that does put some of my worries about CSX Jin at ease. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted October 7, 2011 It was red beat, don't worry they're uploaded, gonna edit this post with them later then upload the video thread. Tetsu won the whole singles event btw. ren vs fumo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPT4Hfm3c44#t=6m42s ren vs sakaomoto ryoma, ren vs naoo at 5:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USIvG0OmMew tetsu vs ren, tetsu vs yoshiki right after http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QCcu2GbGDI#t=3m58s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shtkn Report post Posted October 7, 2011 is it just me or does the first hit of 214B/C knock the opponent back further in this game? that'd be great if it applied to j.214B/C cuz i'm sick of getting myself cornered after air ice car haha. edit: yes, it looks like you won't be accidentally crossing up with air ice cars! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USIvG0OmMew&feature=feedu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted October 7, 2011 Tetsu does CH jC>2D here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QCcu2GbGDI#t=6m Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuushiro Report post Posted October 7, 2011 Glad to see Jin is actually still pretty decent. I was a bit demoralized looking at the changes by itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xlolxlolx Report post Posted October 7, 2011 mori balance is hilarious as always Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted October 7, 2011 Tetsu does CH jC>2D here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QCcu2GbGDI#t=6m It might just be on aerial CH though and I'm betting my chips that it is. I've yet to see anyone attempt that stuff > 6C > DC > IAD > j.C > j.2C > 5C > stuff combo. Is it me or does 6A seem slightly slower? It might just be my imagination and I'm hoping that it is. Crossing up with j.214B/C was a bit of a double-edged sword. You could put yourself in the corner or do the same to your opponent. Back in the day you just timed your Ice Car C after j.D and if you hit the opponent as soon as possible while he's above you then you'll trade spots, if you time it and hit him at the last possible moment then you'll keep your spot lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan257B Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Were we always able to pickup CH 623C with 5C midscreen in CS2? Looks like we can now, if we already could then herp derp go me for not knowing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Yeah we could, 623C CH > dashing 5C > stuff, it was a relatively tight link though so you usually saw people just go for dashing 5B > stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan257B Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Ok, thanks for the clarification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Tetsu is pretty much the only jin i see who does it lol, everyone for the most part, even the JP jins opt for 5B, though i see some US jins RC the DP and do the 5C follow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk Report post Posted October 8, 2011 I find the 5c(lol i drop alot tho) link combo easier to do, since i can't get used to 5b>hjA edit; anyway is it just me or ground 236 comes out slightly faster as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted October 8, 2011 you dont have to high jump lol. And they seemed a bit faster to me but...it could be my eyes playing tricks on me..since 2D doesnt seem that much slower to me either lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk Report post Posted October 8, 2011 2d looks slower to me, and wait you don't? D: though yeah i'm always lost when i try that combo(what i do next? isit time to icecarzz yet? lol) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted October 8, 2011 tbh i keep it simple, and just do jC>jD>ice car tbh. Anyways yeah it looks slower but not the way i was thinking when i read the changelog lol. I'm just playing the waiting game...i just watched an early tetsu cs1/cs2 match and then a recent one and shit was radically different lol. Remember how jin matches were before dennou did the D DP loop and everyone followed that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanfleihight Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Only 2 and a half months left to wait! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spelt Report post Posted October 8, 2011 So does 6a airhit not bounce anymore? I was looking forward to that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Remember how jin matches were before dennou did the D DP loop and everyone followed that? I actually rarely used the DP D loop until later on into the game and even then I didn't use it that much. I used my meter for j.236D shenanigans and 236D resets lol. For the DP C CH combo I do... DP C CH > dashing 5B > sj.A > j.2C > j.D > dashing 5B > 5C > 3C > 214C. Sometimes I do j.D > AD > j.D cross-up if I'm feeling gimmicky or if that's the only way I can win the match lol. These changes are unlike the ones going from CT to CS and from CS to CSII. Those were welcome additions even though the changes dropped Jin down a tier and raised him back up on the next game. I love what they did to him on CS and I eventually adapted to his CSII self but these new changes are lame as hell. I'm going to remain salty until I see that stuff > 6C > DC > IAD > j.C > j.2C > 5C > stuff combo in action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites