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Space reserved until we get more concrete information on BnBs. I'm starting to post stuff here, I'll clean it up later to be organized.

The general standing midscreen starter:

~ -> 5B -> 5C -> JC -> j.B -> j.2B -> j.C -> 6A (2) -> Air Ender

Crouching midscreen starter

~ -> 5B -> 6A (2) -> Air Ender

Corner/Near Corner

~ -> 5C -> 6C -> Corner Ender

- I need confirmation on whether 5C->6C works on non-crouching inside a combo.

Air Enders:

j.8D~A -> 2D~C -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> .. -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236Bx5

2D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> .. -> j.9D~9 -> j.2D~C -> j.C -> .. -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236Bx5

Corner Ender:

j.D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC to Air Ender or AB2 Ender

AB2 Ender:

6C -> JC7 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC9 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC8 -> j.236Bx5

- It's possible to start the above from 5B(2) -> 6C now, there's going to be a lot more variants this time around because of that.

- It has to be researched more where to use 214D j.C into the corner ender. It seems like this might be important.

If I get anything wrong it's because it's early, and we only have videos to go off of, not actual testing.

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0:12 ~ 0:17

6C is faster

j.2D Untechable time increased

j.8D Untechable time decreased

214C startup has become faster

Only one 214C on the field is possible

214C removes a Guard Primer

Stick Kitty range distance has been changed

22C attack speed is slower

236C Damage increased

2B->5B Gatling is now possible

Page 2

0:18 ~ 0:24

6B is now a Fatal

5B>6A (Something about it standing and not being able to be tied together, I don't know how to word it)

Forward Throw in midscreen is possible to be followed up after

j.D CH wall bounces

3C Untechable time is now shortened

j.A 5A 2A damage is now 300

j.DB is less frame advantage

Her CA is shitty now

You can't follow up Hexa Edge without Meter now

Translated by AkiraS and itsme

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Meterless Combos

Combo 1 (0:27) - 2A starter, corner

2A -> 5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [2171]

Combo 2 (0:36) - 2A starter, corner

2A -> 5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6A (1 hit) -> JC -> TK j.236BBBBB [2033]

Combo 3 (0:44) - 5B starter, midscreen

5B -> 5C -> JC -> j.B -> j.2B -> j.C -> 6A (2 hits) -> JC -> j.8D~A -> 2D~C -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3264]

Combo 4 (0:54) - 5B starter, corner

5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [4068]

Combo 5 (1:06) - 5B starter, corner

5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236C -> [2]9D -> j.2D~B -> 5C -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [4125]

Combo 6 (1:19) - 5B starter, corner, Rachel specific(?)

5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3923]

Combo 7 (1:27) - 5B starter, midscreen to corner, Tager specific(?)

5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [4125]

Combo 8 (1:35) - 5B starter, corner

5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 5C -> TK j.236BBBBB [3522]

Combo 9 (1:46) - 5B starter, corner

5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 214D -> j.236BBBBB [3252]

Combo 10 (1:55) - 5B starter, midscreen to corner, crouching opponent

5B -> 5C -> 2C -> 6C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [4200]

Combo 11 (2:01) - 5B starter, midscreen to corner, crouching opponent

5B -> 6A (1 hit) -> JC -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3300]

Combo 12 (2:06) - FC 6B starter, midscreen, crouching opponent

6B -> 5B -> 6A (2 hits) -> JC -> j.8D~A (x3) -> 2D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3134]

Combo 13 (2:18) - FC 6B starter, midscreen to corner, crouching opponent, Tager specific(?)

6B -> 5B -> 6A (1 hit) -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3119]

Combo 14 (2:30) - 6A starter, midscreen

6A (2 hits) -> JC -> j.8D~A -> land -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~5 -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3067]

Combo 15 (2:38) - 6A starter, midscreen to corner

6A (1 hit) -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3201]

Combo 16 (2:48) - 6A starter, midscreen to corner

6A (1 hit) -> 5D~5 -> j.2D~5 -> j.C -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3500]

Combo 17 (2:54) - 6A starter, midscreen to corner

6A (1 hit) -> JC -> j.2B -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3000]

Combo 18 (2:59) - 6A starter, midscreen to behind corner

6A (1 hit) -> JC -> j.2B -> j.2D~B-> j.BB -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [2730]

Combo 19 (3:09) - CH 6C starter, midscreen

6C -> 5D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.8D~A -> land -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~5 -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3978]

Combo 20 (3:20) - CH 6C starter, midscreen to corner

6C -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3100]

Combo 21 (3:25) - CH 6C starter, midscreen to corner

6C -> 2C -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~4000]

Combo 22 (3:31) - CH 2D starter, midscreen

2D~5 -> j.4D~6 -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~C -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB[3453]

Combo 23 (3:41) - CH 2D starter, midscreen to corner

2D~5 -> j.4D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3500]

Combo 24 (3:46) - j.D starter, midscreen

j.D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~5 -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [2929]

Combo 25 (3:55) - CH j.D starter, midscreen

j.D~B -> dash -> 2D~C -> d.jump -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236B -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB[2631]

Combo 26 (4:03) - CH j.C starter, midscreen

j.C -> dash -> 5C -> JC -> j.8D~A -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~5 -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236B -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3870]

Combo 27 (4:13) - 236C starter, midscreen

236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.2D~C -> j.C -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3380]

Combo 28 (4:22) - 236C starter, corner

236CC -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~4100]

Combo 29 (4:28) - forward throw starter, midscreen

B+C -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~5 -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236BBBBB [2991]

Combo 30 (4:38) - forward throw starter, corner

B+C -> j.4D~A -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3700]

Combo 31 (4:44) - forward throw starter, corner

B+C -> j.4D~B -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~4100]

Combo 32 (4:52) - forward throw starter, corner, Tager specific

B+C -> j.2D~A -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3581]

Combo 33 (5:04) - back throw starter, midscreen

4B+C -> 22C -> 5D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~5 -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3281]

Combo 34 (5:15) - back throw starter, midscreen to corner

4B+C -> 22C -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3900]

Combo 35 (5:23) - back throw starter, midscreen to corner

4B+C -> 2C -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> (4D~A -> 6C ->)(?) 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [?]

Combo 36 (5:28) - back throw starter, corner

4B+C -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3900]

Combo 37 (5:37) - jump throw starter, midscreen

j.B+C -> 5D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~5 -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3868]

Combo 38 (5:47) - jump throw starter, midscreen to corner

j.B+C -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~3900]

Combo 39 (5:53) - jump throw starter, midscreen to corner

j.B+C -> 5D~6 -> j.2D~6 -> j.C -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [~4300]

Combo 40 (6:01) - jump throw starter, midscreen to behind corner

j.B+C -> dash (crossunder) -> 5C -> JC -> j.C -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [4236]

Combo 41 (6:14) - gold burst starter, midscreen

G.Burst -> 5D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.C -> j.8D~A -> 2D~5 -> j.9D~5 -> j.6D~6 -> j.C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3198]

Combo 42 (6:25) - gold burst starter, midscreen to corner

G.Burst -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [3713]

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50% Meter Combos (AB2 Combos)

Combo 43 (6:37) - 5B starter, corner (Note: against Makoto)

5B -> 3C (2 hits) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 6C -> JC7 -> 6C -> JC7 -> 6C -> JC -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [5045]

Combo 44 (6:46) - 5B starter, corner (Note: against Bang)

5B -> 3C (3 hits) -> 22C -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~A -> 6C -> AB2 -> 6C -> s.JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [5905]

Combo 45 (6:57) - 6A starter, midscreen to corner (Note: against Bang)

6A (1 hit) -> 5D~6 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> AB2 -> 6C -> s.JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [4760]

Combo 46 (7:06) - j.A starter, towards midscreen to behind corner (Note: against Bang)

j.A -> 5B -> 5C -> 2C -> 5D~B -> 5B -> 3C (2 hits) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 6C -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [4900~5150]

Combo 47 (7:17) - 5B starter, midscreen to corner (Note: against Hazama)

5B -> 3C (2 hits) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 2C -> 214D -> j.C -> 2C -> 214D -> j.C -> 6C -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [~5400]

Combo 48 (7:28) - 2A starter, midscreen to corner (Note: against Tsubaki)

2A -> 3C (1 hit) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 2C -> 214D -> j.C -> 6C -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [~4200]

Combo 49 (7:36) - 5B starter, midscreen to corner, crouching opponent (Note: against Hakumen)

5B -> 3C (2 hits) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 2C -> JC -> j.4D~6(?) -> j.C -> 6C -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [~5100]

Combo 50 (7:46) - 2A starter, midscreen to corner (Note: against Litchi)

2A -> 5B -> 3C (1 hit) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 6B -> dash -> 5C -> 6B -> 6C -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [~4300]

Combo 51 (7:56) - 2A starter, midscreen to corner (Note: against Rachel)

2A -> 5B -> 3C (1 hit) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 6B -> 6B -> 6C -> 6C -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [~4200]

Combo 52 (8:05) - 5B starter, midscreen to behind corner (Note: against Platinum)

5B -> 3C (1 hit) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 5D~B -> dash -> 5B -> 6B -> 6C -> 6C -> s.JC7 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC9 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [~4700]

Combo 53 (8:15) - j.C starter, midscreen to corner, far corner push (Note: against Litchi)

j.C -> 5B -> 5C -> 3C (1 hit) -> AB2 -> 5B -> 6B -> dash -> 5B -> 6B -> dash -> 5B -> 6C -> 6C -> s.JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [5154]

Sexy Combos :3

Combo 54 (8:29) - Hexa Edge starter, corner (Note: against Litchi)

Hexa Edge -> RC -> 5D~5 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~9 -> j.C -> j.9D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.3D~3 -> j.236BBBBB [5213]

Combo 55 (8:41) - FC 2C starter, corner (Note: against Bang)

FC 2C -> AB2 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> 6C -> s.JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [6049]

Combo 56 (8:51) - FC 2C starter, corner (Note: against Bang)

FC 2C -> 6[C] -> AB2 -> 6C -> JC9 -> j.236BBBBB -> Hexa Edge -> 6C -> 6C -> s.JC7 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC9 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [7104]

Note: I have no clue what happened here. Hexa Edge recovered fast enough to 6C after? or Hexa Edge can be cancelled? It didn't look like the last hit went off.

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jus watched the tao combo vid, i am very impressed with what she has got, midscreen ab2 combos are nice, the damage is great, and to sacrifice a little damage u can gain really good oki with 6a (1hit) jump cat2, i think tao will be awesome in the next one, jus need to hurry n release it now

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ill check tomorrow and have a look, i also know you can normal attack out of hexa in ab2 might of been that or something, anyway she is lookin top notch im happy :D

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Just a tip, but check the original nico video to see notes about the combos and which char it works (a lot of combos there are character specific/need to delay stuff), but unfortunately I don't have time to do that for now. Also the AB2 midscreen stuff works in CS2 as you can see in the video.

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I can't read or write in japanese very well. I had some friends translate this for me as was mentioned in my post. I also don't have the link to the original video on nico :/ i know that the timing varies slightly based on the hitbox of the opponent, but for the most part I believe that the non-meter combos are pretty universal except for the rachel and tager combos (which i noted as ? for a possible char. specific combo)

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After watching the video again, I definatley heard the grab whiff sound clip in the last combo.

Is it possible to jump install into grab whif and continue to combo AB2?

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Combo 3 doesn't work vs. Noel, Carl, Platinum and Lambda. Need to delay vs. Jin, Tsubaki, Hazama, Ragna, Mu-12, Rachel and Makoto

Combo 4 doesn't work vs. Noel, need to delay vs. Rachel

Combo 6 is universal, but it works better vs.Noel and Rachel than combo 4 and 5

Those are just some examples. There are a lot more, not just about character specific stuff, but also tips to make the combo easier.

The original nico video (which you could easily find in the posting thread in general): http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16303056

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Sorry for doing what I thought would help other Tao players? I don't quite understand why you're bashing me for doing this. I don't check the video posting thread; I wait for jourdal or pktazn to upload them to youtube since I'm subscribed to them anyway.

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You took me on the wrong way, I'm not bashing you or anything like that...I'm just saying that the original video has some pretty nice notes about every combo like what combo you should use against Char X, how to make the combo easier and etc. Then you said that you believed that the non-meter combos were pretty universal and I just showed examples how that is not true at all and that notes like thoses are important and better than just post the combos themself.

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Combo 56 (8:51) - FC 2C starter, corner (Note: against Bang)

FC 2C -> 6[C] -> AB2 -> 6C -> JC9 -> j.236BBBBB -> Hexa Edge -> 6C -> 6C -> s.JC7 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC9 -> j.236BBBBB -> JC8 -> j.236BBBBB [7104]

Note: I have no clue what happened here. Hexa Edge recovered fast enough to 6C after? or Hexa Edge can be cancelled? It didn't look like the last hit went off.

Is it not becuase of the AB2's Hexa Edge being the last hit allowing her to do a 6C follow up?

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Like Stomoman said, there's a whiff grab there so you can cancel the Hexa-Edge 4th hit. So the notation would be like this:

2C charged FC, 6C charged, 236236B, 6C, HJC(7) j.236B, 236236D (4 hits), Throw whiff, delay 6C, 6C, HJC(7) j.236B, JC(9) j.236B, JC j.236B

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Tsujikawa did a 11330dmg combo with Tao in his stream:

2[C] FC->214D->Gold Burst->6C->dash->6C->6C->236C->22C->5D->j.D~A->6C->4D~A->6C->AB2->6C->7SJC->cat2->9JC->cat2->8JC->cat2->RC->Gold Burst->6C->7SJC->cat2->9JC->cat2->8JC->cat2

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Speaking of tsujikawa what happen to him? He never appears in videos anymore and it's rather unfortunate because he is apparently doing well PSR wise with Tao.

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Well...he was in the last NSB in the beginning of the month, even in the finals (which his team won...after he defeated every player of the other team lol)

And Tsujikawa videos usually are kinda rare, even in CS1 and CS2.

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Would it be possible to do something like....

2A, Standing hit confirm, 6A, TK 236bbbbb , bowling ball

Not sure if this would all combo due to the 2A starter but it should if you scratch off the air ender. What I'm really interested in is if it be possible to get a bowling ball out after the TK 236bbbb mid screen.

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