TD Report post Posted February 2, 2014 For combos there's actually corner carry ones that stay largely the same minus the new proration system. If there was something I'd recommend the most it would be to get ALL of those down as they have been important forever already. J3bd c/j2c, 6cd, 5cc 3c5d 5b pickups... Practice j[c] jc links in the air in case you aren't comfortable with them. Jc 2d djc 2d 5b/6a can be practiced as well. It won't be exactly the same due to increased gravity, but you can practice juggling and getting the perfect positioning. Transitioning to cp should not be too difficult of you practice these. Like Errol said don't let your pressure or neutral suffer either, when you can try to practice a little of both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muerto Report post Posted February 2, 2014 ok thank you both, i actually dont find the j[c] jc too difficult i havent touched the 6cd since tho, ill just try to practice everything, also one final question i remember reading that the j2c> 236B> JC> JC> BBL route was character specific or something in cp is this true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuuhaku Report post Posted February 28, 2014 What's the go-to route for 5C fatal in the corner if you have meter? So far I have 5.3k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Errol Report post Posted February 28, 2014 5c frog 2c 5cc then just standard stuff gets you to 5.7/5.8k if you have 50 meter, no OD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuuhaku Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Huh. That's actually the route I was doing. 5C > 214A > 2C [frog] 5CC 6A > 4B 5B > 6A > 236A dash 5B > 6A > BBL summon. Hm. Maybe it's because I'm not doing the 236B route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eSportsHero Report post Posted March 1, 2014 I'm learning rachel and I'd actually like to put together a list, maybe even some vids of some optimal-ish combos for different situations. IE mid w/X wind, corner w/X wind, 5B punish starter, 5b > 6B > j.B [3D] >... hit confirms. Im just trying to find a good balance of wind use/damage/canIactuallydoitinamatch Corner fatal, the one i've been going for is this one that i've pulled from a combo vid 5C > 214A > 2C [frog] > 5B > 6A > 4B > 236B > 6A > 236C [2D] > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > BBL Does 5500ish if memory serves. It's not too hard and takes NO WIND to start I've found that I really like using a short hop combo extender (5B, jump, 2D, j.5C) as a go to as its really good at keeping them at low heights for 6A > 4b or 5CC continuations Corner combos: No Wind at start (almost same as above combo) 5B > 5CC > 5B > 6A > 4B > 236B > 6A > 236C [2D] > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > BBL 1 Wind 5B > 3C [9D] > 5B > 6A > 4B > 236B > 6A > 236C [2D] > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > BBL 5B > 6A [5D] > 4B > dash 5CC > 214A > 5B > 6A > 236A > 3C > 236B > 6A > BBL (needs just over 1 bar of wind to start) 5B > 6A [5D] > 4B > 5B > 6A > 236A > 5B, [j.2D] j.5C > 5CC > 214A > 3C > 214B > 6A > BBL 2 Wind 5B > 6B > j.B [3D] > j.2C > 5b > 3C > [9D] > 6A > 4B > 5B > 6A > 236A > 5B, [j.2D] j.5C > 5CC > 214A > 3C > 214B > 6A > BBL 5B > 6B > j.A [2D] > 5B > 6A [5D] > 4B > 5B > 6A > 236A > 5B, [j.2D] j.5C > 5CC > 214A > 3C > 214B > 6A > BBL 5B > 5CC [9D] > 214A > 2C [frog] 5B, [j.2D] j.5C > 6A > 4B > 5B > 6A > 236A > 6A > BBL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rv-wxZCPs8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Report post Posted March 1, 2014 This concept has already been done. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9HiW8v2qTgU There are some important routes left put, such as 5bd 6a dash 5b, some ja frog combos, certain heat combos... However, pretty much everything that is anything combo related is in this tutorial (which is more like a compilation if you ask me.) You're welcome to still do it if you prefer, just pointing that out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diveman Report post Posted March 1, 2014 Whenever they get hit raw by the frog or something like 2B 5B frog in the corner, what route is the most optimal to follow? can you do a long enough combo to get frog again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stoneroth Report post Posted March 3, 2014 (2B/5B) > frog > 5B > 6A > 236A > 5B > 6A > 4B > 5CC > 214B > 3C > 214A You need to hit the last 5B when they're low to the ground so 4B doesn't bounce them too high. You can resummon George just at the end of 3C. I'm pretty sure this route works from j.B starter as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Candy Report post Posted March 16, 2014 Anyone got any tips for BnB's involving 5B > 6A > 236A > Dash 3C I either input the 3C to late, or get 2C... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Errol Report post Posted March 16, 2014 there is really nothing to it. You just have to get it down. it's not particularly tight, it just has to be done correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True_Tech Report post Posted March 16, 2014 depending on the situation you may need to delay your 236a slightly so it hits later giving you time to start dashing into the 3c. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Candy Report post Posted March 16, 2014 Should I delay after a frog starter then? That's the one I'm trying to practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True_Tech Report post Posted March 16, 2014 off frog, make sure you wait till all the hits of the frog are done and they drop a bit, if you do your 5b too soon they'll be too high and that can cause them to tech too soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True_Tech Report post Posted March 27, 2014 anyone got a no frog fatal 5c combo, lost a match cause i did frog oki, they dp'd to get out like i knew they would, and i went to do fatal 5c combo but i realized as i did it i had no fatal combo without george. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soniti Report post Posted March 27, 2014 I don't have anything special, but you can just dash up and otg 5b 6a 236a~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tari Report post Posted March 28, 2014 You can also burn a wind stock to do a level 2 j.2C after the 5C FC and combo from there. Gets you around an extra 300-400 damage over the dash 5B path, I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoular Report post Posted March 28, 2014 @True_Tech like Tari said you can use j.2C combo or you can wait till after they stop spinning from the 5C and go for 5B > j.C 2D land 5B > 6A... I'd like to give you a full combo path but on my phone atm =/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soniti Report post Posted April 26, 2014 anyone got a no frog fatal 5c combo, lost a match cause i did frog oki, they dp'd to get out like i knew they would, and i went to do fatal 5c combo but i realized as i did it i had no fatal combo without george. I have since come up with something better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myqTs_4lEzU 5c FC dash, wait until otg 5b 6a 4b delay 236b 6a 236c delay 2d 5b 6a (delay if too high) 236a 5b 6a 5b 6a BBL 4922 dmg for 1 wind and 50%. Actually you can start the combo from 0 wind and it works :o EDIT: version using 100% and overdrive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-CaoS3daA Does 7640 for 1 wind, 100% and Overdrive (you use another wind later but you gain that wind during the combo) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samthegreat Report post Posted April 26, 2014 I'm using N-O's char specific corner FC. I haven't tested on every character. 5C FC > 214A > (dash) 2C > (frog) > 5CC > 6A > 236B > 5B > 6A > 236A > dash 5B > 6A > 4B > (6A) > BBL 5.6k iirc for 0 wind and 50%. Doesn't work on Valk, most likely a few more, will test later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soniti Report post Posted April 26, 2014 My combo is specifically for when frog is on cooldown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samthegreat Report post Posted April 27, 2014 Oh yeah without George. Then yeah the basic stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirbster Report post Posted April 29, 2014 I'm using N-O's char specific corner FC. I haven't tested on every character. 5C FC > 214A > (dash) 2C > (frog) > 5CC > 6A > 236B > 5B > 6A > 236A > dash 5B > 6A > 4B > (6A) > BBL 5.6k iirc for 0 wind and 50%. Doesn't work on Valk, most likely a few more, will test later. For characters like Valk, I just replace the underlined 5b with 5a, works perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Errol Report post Posted April 29, 2014 5c> 5cc> 214a> 3c> 5b6a236b2d>5b6a236a>6a4b>6a>bbl 6099. extra damage if you have an extra pole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro_The_Kidd Report post Posted May 1, 2014 for rachel's 6a>4b>dash>5cc im having trouble dashing into 5cc is there a specific timing or delay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites