[CP] Carl vs Platinum

[Psykotik]

Discuss the Platinum matchup here

Random notes:

- She's better than you air-to-air

- You can Vivace past presents to disarm them. She can 2A you if she sees it though so watch out for that

- Her counter ([2]8C) can be grabbed. Anima will also beat it.

- Said counter gets her out of the UB. To get around this, do a Vivace as you land on the ground; you'll roll past the dummy and 3D will hit her, allowing you a not-so-optimized follow up to the UB.

- TK Swallow moon mixups isn't the safest thing she can do as those can easily be mashed out of.

[KwRIOT]

Got trolled pretty hard by a Platinum today. Had no clue how to deal with her new item, the presents.

Since her Wiki doesn't say much about it, I wanted to point out:

- Normal version has two stocks. Upgraded version has four.

- A maximum of two of either version can be placed at any time. If a third one is placed, the first one will disappear.

- Cannot be air guarded normally. Use barrier.

- Normal versions stays onscreen for ~13 seconds. Upgraded versions stays onscreen for ~16 seconds.

- Normal versions go away when Platinum gets hit. Upgraded versions *DO NOT* go away when she gets hit.

That last point makes it annoying for Carl to keep his momentum. Even when she's getting hit, you might have to drop the combo because a present is nearby. Movement options also become greatly reduced. As Psykotik mentioned, you can Vivace through them. Another option is to use a well-timed s.j. into airdash to get past either version. His hop should generally be avoided whenever they're onscreen (Personal experience lol). As for Nirvana, her sprite does not trigger the presents. On the flip side, they don't damage her either. <--I was wrong. Watch out for that too.

Hope this saves others some time.

[sinder]

^that was probably crazy ape

His brother plays carl so don't take the trolling to hard :3

Best way to beat TK swallow moon is 6A

and platinum has a counter? Learn something new everyday....

The match up isn't bad, but I always had some issue with her hit box.

[Fujiwara]

I don't have a shitload of XP with this Match-ups because finding Carl's is harder for me than finding other Plat players.

I don't know exactly whose favor this MU is in, but Plat is shit under pressure, which means that if you manage to sandwich her or get her in the corner, she's goes through *hell* to get out of that situation. Since I find Carl's jumping a lot in tandem with Nirvana pressure, It's not even hard to accidentally activate the counter using nirvana and punishing there.

On top of that, it's not hard for Carl to fucking run from Platinum the entire match. Nirvana is literally a wall that can eat whatever is throw at her. Neutral actually feels like Carl's strong strength in this MU because of the presence of Nirvana. She tanks missiles, bombs, cat hammer, you name it. So, yeah. From personal experience, catching a running carl is a motherfucker, but once you get him in the corner, there's no reason to let him out.

If anyone wants to run some sets with me at a later date so I can get a better grasp of this MU, let me know,