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[CP] Ragna vs Ragna

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Discuss the Ragna mirror match here:

MOST of the frame data and game-plan from EX still applies to CP.

Match Start:

  • - It basically boils down to a game of rock, paper, scissors. 2B and 5A beats out 5B, 5C beats out 2B, and so forth.

Neutral:

  • - You want to be spacing just outside of his moves so you can whiff punish and get in.

Offense:

  • - This is what you want to spend most of the time doing. His pressure isn't all that great, as he has gaps in most of his pressure and can be left at a disadvantage sometimes. Use block-strings wisely and don't go crazy.

Defense:

- IB/DP/CA out if you can. 2B can no longer whiff C ID on recovery.


Punishes (on block/reaction):

[*]- 2C is still a good punish overall. FC DID on a whiffed/blocked DP works

Combo Notes:

I or a Mod will edit the post as more testing/posts come along. Contriboot.

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I was trying realistic reactionary punishes to ground BS in training. Depending on spacing, Ragna will either remain on the same side or cross behind before it connects. If you know the spacing, it becomes easier to punish correctly.

The strongest, probably realistic punish is FC DID(2nd hit). This only works at ranges where BS won't crossup. It has to be done pretty soon after startup otherwise it trades and you can't get anything after. This punish probly only gonna happen when you really anticipate a BS. Back jump FC DID can work if the BS would crossup (or in corner), but to get it out in time you pretty much have to start doing it right when he does BS so it seems less realistic.

Slightly easier punish is CH airthrow. Neutral jump for non-crossup BS, back jump for crossup BS. Doing it too late gets you FC out of the air.

6A works but only on non-crossup BS, it's a non CH 6A.

CID is by far the easiest punish. As long as you know which side it will come down on, it's easy to get since you have as long as possible to react.

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