Kiba Report post Posted March 20, 2014 If you'd like to contribute, please feel free to do so! Just link the video along with the time that Valkenhayn appears in the video (using the '&t=xxx' format if necessary), and I'll update this post with that video. If a suitable title for the video is available please list it. Discussions are welcome but please keep it brief as I would like to avoid deviation from this thread. Dates are in written in MM/DD/YYYY format, by Tournament date. If no tournament date is present, upload date will be used. If you want to help link videos you can use this video generator if you like! Click here! If a Nico Video is presented and you do not have a Nico account, use this director. If you want to watch videos from 1.0 it is here. Notable Players Suya (すーや) Twitter - @ss_suya Manato / Jasu (マナト / ジャス) Twitter - @Jusykr Uma No Hone (馬の骨) Twitter - @ty31449190 Kin Tager (金テイガー) Twitter - @19890414Motoki Other Good Players Valkenhayn Dan Ranking List Aside from the notable players, these Valks are also a good watch. Boku Zen (卜全) Twitter - @Ren_ds Suya vs. [08/04/14] Tera Luna (TS) [08/04/14] Dogura (AZ) [08/04/14] Mu [08/04/14] Kogatan (RG) [08/04/14] Matoi (KO) - to 35:12 [07/31/14] Ea (LI) [07/31/14] Azrael [07/31/14] N-O (RC) - To 31:43 [07/16/14] DAISUL (NO) [06/29/14] DAISUL (NO) [06/29/14] UNDER (TG) [06/29/14] Oboro (NO) [06/29/14] Tochigin (AZ) [06/29/14] Tager [05/31/14] Grandia (TG) [05/31/14] Itou sae (CA) [05/31/14] Macchi (RG) [05/31/14] Rabua (MU) [05/31/14] Matoi (KO) [05/18/14] Puromete (LI) - To End | (Cont) - To 10:16 [05/18/14] Itou (CA) - To 22:04 [05/18/14] Ao Hoshi (PT) - To 12:12 | Set 2 - To End | Set 3 - To 5:40 [05/04/14] Fenrich (JI) [05/04/14] Iwashi (RG) [05/04/14] Dogura (AZ) [04/19/14] Zekuso (AZ) [04/19/14] Konan (TS) [04/19/14] Hima (TR) [04/19/14] Keba (MU) [04/19/14] Judo (BA) [04/19/14] Reji (PT) [04/19/14] Inagi (AM) [04/19/14] Sensui (PT) [03/23/14] Udon (HZ) [03/23/14] Konan (TS) Manato vs [04/30/14] Udon (JI) [04/30/14] Suzuki (HZ) [04/30/14] Ryusei (CA) [04/25/14] Mizuki (CA) [04/25/14] Teru (HK) [04/09/14] Mato (AZ) [04/02/14] Zekuso (AZ) [04/02/14] RYO (RE) [04/02/14] Akashi (AZ) Uma no Hone vs [07/20/14] Maven (PT) [07/20/14] Ako (AR) [07/20/14] Arakune [07/20/14] Makoto [07/20/14] Hakumen [07/20/14] Tsubaki [07/20/14] Arukemi (AM) [07/20/14] Zero (RC) - Cuts off. | Set 2 [06/18/14] Fuitan (CA) [06/18/14] Suzuki (HZ) [06/15/14] Hiro Haku (NU) [06/15/14] Kiryu (KG) [06/15/14] Tetsuwo (KO) [06/15/14] Udon (HZ) [05/28/14] Ryusei (CA) [05/28/14] Ishida (BU) [05/23/14] Dogura (AZ) [03/19/14] Tetsuwo (KO) Kin Tager vs [08/02/14] Aimai (NO) [07/12/14] Arakune [07/12/14] Arakune [07/12/14] Azrael Only last round [07/12/14] Azrael [07/12/14] Terumi [07/12/14] Kagura [07/12/14] Kokonoe [07/12/14] Nu-13 [06/21/14] Sesu (RC) [06/21/14] Tager [06/21/14] Azrael [06/05/14] Watagashi (NO) FT10 [05/24/14] Carl [05/24/14] Ragna | Set 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted March 20, 2014 JPN Matches Vs. Amane[05/06/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Nokado (AM) Vs. Arakune[07/16/14] Soono (VK) vs Arakune Vs. Azrael[07/12/14] Soono (VK) vs Jasu (AZ) [07/12/14] Azrael vs Valkenhayn [05/25/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Kuro (AZ) [05/25/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Novu (AZ) [05/06/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Novu (AZ) [05/04/14] Azrael vs Kamabu (VK) [04/29/14] Valkenhayn vs Azrael [04/19/14] Yatsu (AZ) vs Bikkuri (VK) [03/22/14] Azrael vs Valkenhayn Vs. Bang[05/25/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Jiku (BG) [05/06/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Momi (BA) [04/29/14] Bang vs Valkenhayn | Part 2 [04/19/14] Mikka (VK) vs Ikegami (BA) Vs. Bullet[07/02/14] Keita (BU) vs Soono (VK) [06/04/14] Yunbo (VK) vs Ishida (BU) [04/19/14] Bikkuri (VK) vs Sangyo (BU) Vs. Carl[05/25/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Goya (CA) [05/04/14] Shiro (VK) vs Esuke (CA) [05/04/14] Kamabu (VK) vs Carl Vs. Hakumen[08/02/14] Crazy (HK) vs Bikkuri (VK) [07/19/14] Soono (VK) vs Kan96 (HK) [07/02/14] Watakkou (HK) vs Soono (VK) [06/21/14] Valkenhayn vs Hakumen [06/21/14] Teri (HK) vs Valkenhayn [05/04/14] Shiro (VK) vs Zuuru (HK) Vs. Hazama[07/16/14] Abeshi (VK) vs Hasegawa (HZ) [06/25/14] Hasegawa (HZ) vs Abeshi (VK) [06/25/14] Soono (VK) vs Hasegawa (HZ) [06/14/14] Hasegawa (HZ) vs Abeshi (VK) [06/11/14] Hasegawa (HZ) vs Soono (VK) [06/11/14] Hasegawa (HZ) vs Abeshi (VK) [05/17/14] Soono (VK) vs Onegai Hebi tsuba (HZ) [04/29/14] Valkenhayn vs Hazama [04/05/14] Tohaku (VK) vs Mao (HZ) Vs. Izayoi[06/04/14] Densetsu no Megane (IZ) vs Soono (VK) Vs. Jin[06/14/14] Sugiyama (VK) vs Ronitta (JI) [05/28/14] Sugiyama (VK) vs Hayashi (JI) [05/04/14] Kamabu (VK) vs Jin [04/08/14] Jin vs Valkenhayn [03/22/14] Jin vs Valkenhayn Vs. Kagura[07/21/14] Kagura vs Valkenhayn [07/16/14] Abeshi (VK) vs Marian (KG) [05/17/14] Soono (VK) vs Nise Pachi (KG) [04/05/14] Marian (KG) vs Tohaku (VK) Vs. Kokonoe[06/21/14] Valkenhayn vs Jiyuna (KO) [05/25/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Stufeni Dora (KO) [05/18/14] Jiyuna (KO) vs Boku zen (VK) [05/16/14] Souji (VK) vs Jiyuna (KO) [05/14/14] Soono (VK) vs Yumura (KO) [05/06/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Meru (KO) [04/01/14] Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Onii (KO) Vs. Litchi[05/04/14] Kamabu (VK) vs Kikuchiyo (LI) | Set 2 | Set 3 [04/29/14] Valkenhayn vs Litchi Vs. Makoto[07/02/14] Kore Chiru (MK) vs Soono (VK) Vs. Mu[07/19/14] Soono (VK) vs Funya Q (MU) | Set 2 [07/19/14] Soono (VK) vs Washi (MU) [07/19/14] Soono (VK) vs Washi (MU) [07/02/14] Funya Q (MU) vs Soono (VK) [06/21/14] Funya Q (MU) vs Towa (VK) [06/21/14] Funya Q (MU) vs Valkenhayn [06/11/14] Funya Q (MU) vs Soono (VK) | Set 2 [06/11/14] Abeshi (VK) vs Funya Q (MU) [05/17/14] Soono (VK) vs Funya Q (MU) Vs. Noel[08/02/14] Aimai (NO) vs Mikka (VK) [08/02/14] Noel vs Valkenhayn [06/14/14] Dango (NO) vs Sugiyama (VK) [06/14/14] Haruna (NO) vs Sugiyama (VK) [05/28/14] Nao (VK) vs Shino (NO) [05/28/14] Sugiyama (VK) vs Shino (NO) [05/25/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Oto Oto (NO) [04/27/14] Oto oto (NO) vs Boku Zen (VK) Vs. Nu-13[07/16/14] Abeshi (VK) vs Hiro (NU) [06/21/14] Nu-13 vs Valkenhayn Vs. Platinum[06/21/14] Platinum vs Valkenhayn [03/22/14] Platinum vs Valkenhayn Vs. Rachel[06/04/14] Yunbo (VK) vs Kitsune (RC) [05/04/14] Rachel vs Kamabu (VK) [04/01/14] Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Minoru (RC) [03/29/14] Valkenhayn vs Rachel Vs. Ragna[07/16/14] Abeshi (VK) vs Tyson (RG) | Set 2 [06/25/14] Tyson (RG) vs Abeshi (VK) [06/25/14] Tyson (RG) vs Soono (VK) [06/04/14] Tyson (RG) vs Soono (VK) [05/06/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Zekusu (RG) [05/04/14] Ragna vs Kamabu (VK) [04/27/14] Zekusu (RG) vs Denka Aishiteru (VK) [04/08/14] Valkenhayn vs Ragna Vs. Relius[08/02/14] Megadodorio (RE) vs Mikka (VK) [04/27/14] Andain (VK) vs Koru (RE) [04/19/14] Dodorio (RE) vs Bikkuri (VK) [04/01/14] Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Unio (RE) Vs. Tager[07/18/14] Under (TG) vs Nao (VK) [07/16/14] Soono (VK) vs Hanma (TG) [06/29/14] Valkenhayn vs Tager | (Cont) [06/21/14] Tager vs Valkenhayn | (Cont) [06/04/14] Hanma (TG) vs Soono (VK) [04/01/14] Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Tiku (TG) [04/01/14] Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Barrel (TG) Vs. Taokaka Vs. Terumi [06/21/14] Valkhenhayn vs Terumi [05/28/14] Sugiyama (VK) vs Rocha (TR) [05/25/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Noze (TR) [05/06/14] Boku Zen (VK) vs Taddo (TR) [04/27/14] Noze (TR) vs Boku Zen (VK) [03/22/14] Terumi vs Valkenhayn | (Cont) Vs. Tsubaki[07/12/14] Tsubaki vs Valkenhayn [04/01/14] Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Tsuba (TS) Vs. Valkenhayn[08/02/14] Bikkuri vs Mikka [06/11/14] Soono vs Abeshi [05/06/14] Boku Zen vs Andain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted March 20, 2014 US/EU Matches Dio Brando (RC) vs Kiba (VK) 2GB Combo (RE) vs Jona (VK) 2GB Combo (RE) vs Kiba (VK) Lich (RE) vs Kiba (VK) Lich (HZ) vs Kiba (VK) Kiba (VK) v EXonestar (LI) Kiba (VK) vs Kid (RG) Kiba (VK) vs DragonLordZ (BG) Kid (RG) vs Kiba (VK) Loser's Finals DragonLordZ (BG) vs Kiba (VK) Grand Finals Miscellaneous Many of the combos shown in these old 1.0 videos may be obsolete or no longer worth it. For example, combos shown in these videos from a wj.A or wj.B will not be the same as the 1.1 combos. However, things like the wolf movement tutorial and Tonberry's setups remain the same. Take with caution. Tutorial VideosValkenhayn Wolf Movement Tutorial - By KibaValkenhayn Wolf Brake Tutorial - By KibaValkenhayn Combo Tutorial - By ???Valkenhayn Basic Combo Tutorial - By Kiba Combo VideosValkenhayn Basic Combos - by Bokuzen Other Easy Method to wolf brake on Pad - By @JonaKimValkenhayn Setups - By TonberryKokonoe 214214A: Valk Punish - By KibaValkenhayn Command Grab Setups -By KibaValkenhayn Challenge Combo 30Valkenhayn Challenge Combos - Excluding 20, 25 & 30.Unlimited Valkenhayn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted March 22, 2014 Team Exe http://www.twitch.tv/team_exe/c/3930385 3:07 Valkenhayn vs Tager http://www.twitch.tv/team_exe/b/513214402 1:28:22 Terumi vs Valkenhayn Not only can we see how fast his beast cannon is but we know how fast the new Sturm wolf animation is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted March 23, 2014 3/22 Urban Square Jin vs Valkenhayn Azrael vs Valkenhayn Platinum vs Valkenhayn Terumi vs Valkenhayn | (Cont) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted March 24, 2014 Kouhatsu Jin vs Valkenhayn Valkenhayn vs Bullet wj.A > w5A > w5C did not combo. 3/19 Shinjuku Sportsland Uma no Hone (VK) vs Tetsuwo (KO) Welp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
50-50罠 Report post Posted March 25, 2014 Man I'm so confused so Valk doesn't get decent combos off w5c even? Ryu landed w5c quite a bit and he didn't do a real combo. Someone explain this to me. I thought our wja/b got nerf, but we cant do a decent air combo period? I'm lost.... Also why did he keep going for wjc, wjc? I didn't see him attempt w5c at all after wjc in the Bullet match. I would think once I make you stand its time for the low but I guess I'm obviously missing somethings. What in the world is happening guys.... Not surprised about the koko match thats just how that shit goes... P.s I didn't even notice wja> w5a> w5c in the vids at what point was that? Sent from my SCH-R530M using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aki- Report post Posted March 25, 2014 I'm pretty confused myself about what went on in those matches. Then again it's gonna take some time for the Valk players to get use to these changes... Personally, I hate the wolf gauge recovery nerf we were hit with. Meter looks harder to manage now, especially when we're trying to be mobile in wolf. I felt salty just watching the Valk vs Koko match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreize Report post Posted March 27, 2014 Calm down guys. To answer your questions: -He gets the same combo off of w[5C] (well maybe it'll be slightly better with w[5C > 236A] but that's not particularly practical). -w[j.A > 5A > 5C] not working isn't really a big deal anyhow since most people don't convert into w[5A] from a w[j.A] confirm. As we knew early on he can still do a w[j.A] confirm into beast cannons, but I wont be using it for rather obvious reasons. -Regarding the wolf gauge nerf, we'll see how bad it affects us once we play the game for ourselves. -As I predicted, w[5C > 236A] now working is going to be very helpful and it'll buff up some of our damage, plus we wont have to use a command dash to combo anymore in the corner depending on the starter. I created some theory combos a while back. -Of course, the issue with w[5C > 236A] is the fact that it isn't a legitimate form of pressure. -Negative penalty buff is going to help us in certain match-ups (Carl, Tager, etc). -New sturm wolf animation speed is absolutely hilarious. Lastly, sorry for posting this here Kiba. You may or may not want to move these posts to the changelog thread/general discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
50-50罠 Report post Posted March 27, 2014 Ok and some how dreize has made it all better. Just curious are you saying w5c> 236a isnt practical because it's not hit confirmable or something. Just would like to understand why you say that. Sent from my SCH-R530M using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stellarcircle5 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 Do we have any 1.1 videos of Valk doing something other than jumping around and dying? Or are the players actually having as much trouble adjusting to the changes as it looks? This worries me, besides the Urban Square 3on3 it was looking really bleak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magaki Report post Posted March 31, 2014 It was pretty much the same when CP came out. Wait 1 or 2 months to really see how Valk will fare against the whole cast. It's kinda pointless to watch matches right now and expect Valk players to win against simpler characters with the wja and wolf regen nerf which imples that a LOT of habits will have to be fixed/removed. For example, punishing a whiffed move at mid-range with 6D>wjB instead of 6D>wjA on reaction. It's not really that complicated but when you consider that those same Valk players grinded CP on arcade for more than 1 year, I'm not surprised to witness them having troubles. Just give it more time really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keech Report post Posted April 1, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1_eCApauC8 some casual 1.10 plays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 3, 2014 Suya is next. 3/23/14 Shinjuku Sportsland Konan (TS) vs Suya (VK) Udon (HZ) vs Suya (VK) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 5, 2014 3/29 Amipara Castle Valkenhayn vs Rachel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 6, 2014 4/1 Mizonokuchi Taito Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Minoru (RC) Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Unio (RE) Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Barrel (TG) Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Tsuba (TS) Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Onii (KO) Nazo no Hone (VK) vs Tiku (TG) I advise watching. I didn't think 6D > j.C would work from a wj.A confirm and I assumed it'll only work into cannon ender. Followup 3C > 236A is good for a little more damage, heat, corner carry and some time to build back wolf meter. Upon closer inspection this Valk could be Takenoko but I'm not 100% sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreize Report post Posted April 6, 2014 Sweet, thanks for the uploads Kiba. Got some good info from that. Not sure what to make of these j.A > Beast Cannon combos. I like the new w[5A] corner combos though. Saw him do j.C > 5B > 5C > 236A > 5D > h[2C > 6C > 2C > 6B > 2C > 236A > 5B > 2C > j.B > dj.B > j.C] and it only did 3433 instead of the 3783 that it currently does. Unlisted damage nerf perhaps? Unless I'm missing something here. He was also managing his wolf meter fairly well. Good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 8, 2014 That damage nerf is probably due to the universal P1 nerf of jump attacks. Kouhatsu Jin vs Valkenhayn Valkenhayn vs Ragna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stellarcircle5 Report post Posted April 9, 2014 I'm actually really relieved to finally see some competent play. I'm glad that our combos seem largely the same. Besides the encouragement of playing human footsies more (which might be a good thing for some people, I know it will be for me), this looks like the same old man I've been playing since October Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 17, 2014 4/2 Shinjuku Sportsland Akashi (AZ) vs Manato (VK) Manato (VK) vs RYO (RE) Zekuso (AZ) vs Manato (VK) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 20, 2014 4/19 Shinjuku Sportsland Sensui (PT) vs Suya (VK) Inagi (AM) vs Suya (VK) Reji (PT) vs Suya (VK) Suya (VK) vs Judo (BA) Suya (VK) vs Keba (MU) Hima (TR) vs Suya (VK) Konan (TS) vs Suya (VK) Zekuso (AZ) vs Suya (VK) Sometimes Suya sits there in neutral to regain wolf meter, because of the meter regen cooldown, so you may be able to see how this affects his neutral game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stellarcircle5 Report post Posted April 20, 2014 I noticed that Suya liked to add w.5C > 236A to his corner combos after TK Mondlicht, even if he was low on wolf meter. Do you think that the cooldown reset is even worth the damage? Also, is that Terumi actually Hima, as in OUR Hima? If so: What. The. Fuck. This character ruins everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 20, 2014 I noticed that Suya liked to add w.5C > 236A to his corner combos after TK Mondlicht, even if he was low on wolf meter. Do you think that the cooldown reset is even worth the damage? Also, is that Terumi actually Hima, as in OUR Hima? If so: What. The. Fuck. This character ruins everything. Good question. I suppose the relevance varies depending on how much wolf meter you have, but I won't opt for it when I'm low. Yeah, that's our Hima. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 23, 2014 Kouhatsu Valkenhayn vs Litchi Valkenhayn vs Azrael Valkenhayn vs Bang This Valk needs to manage his wolf meter better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiba Report post Posted April 27, 2014 4/22 a-cho Hakumen vs Valkenhayn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites