Accent Core "Come back" Glitch

[blitz]

Got it!

Toss yoyo. Press HS to hold it and let Bridget finish his little curtsey animation. Release HS for at least 1 and at most 3 frames, and press it again. I say at most 3 because it feels like a kara-cancel if you do it right - it might be actually 1 frame. (It's easier to do this if you let go with one finger and press it again with a different finger, and the post says something like that.) If you do this, it will return a small bit and hold again - this resets the hold time. You can repeat the release/press as many times as you want until it comes all the way back or (more likely) you screw up your timing.

To cancel the return into a Roger move, you do the motion for the move and end with release/press...so like 623+release H/press H. You CAN'T cancel the return at any arbitrary point, you can only do it this way. What ends up happening is the yoyo returns to Bridget as he does the startup for the special, then he turns it into Roger on the way back.

For the life of me I couldn't get it with the super. I also can't imagine getting this in any sort of useful way in a match, but I suppose people did the 1-frame Rensen FRC well enough...

It seems like a bug given the flames around the Roger moves. I think what you do is report to the yoyo to come back (release) but then press the button again while Bridget still thinks the yoyo is held. He does the Hold animation again each time you do it.

Now I can sleep!

Mike Z

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[Frank The Tank]

I dug this out of one of the Guilty room threads, this is Mike Z's explaination of the glitch.

Got it!

Toss yoyo. Press HS to hold it and let Bridget finish his little curtsey animation. Release HS for at least 1 and at most 3 frames, and press it again. I say at most 3 because it feels like a kara-cancel if you do it right - it might be actually 1 frame. (It's easier to do this if you let go with one finger and press it again with a different finger, and the post says something like that.) If you do this, it will return a small bit and hold again - this resets the hold time. You can repeat the release/press as many times as you want until it comes all the way back or (more likely) you screw up your timing.

To cancel the return into a Roger move, you do the motion for the move and end with release/press...so like 623+release H/press H. You CAN'T cancel the return at any arbitrary point, you can only do it this way. What ends up happening is the yoyo returns to Bridget as he does the startup for the special, then he turns it into Roger on the way back.

For the life of me I couldn't get it with the super. I also can't imagine getting this in any sort of useful way in a match, but I suppose people did the 1-frame Rensen FRC well enough...

It seems like a bug given the flames around the Roger moves. I think what you do is report to the yoyo to come back (release) but then press the button again while Bridget still thinks the yoyo is held. He does the Hold animation again each time you do it.

Now I can sleep!

Mike Z

And after some experience with it, I can agree, it's hard as hell. Not too hard to prevent me from learning it, just hard enough to frustrate the goddamn out of me until I do.

[blitz]

yeah, it's definitely harsh =\

[Zugi]

I got my copy already, haven't been able to do it yet, I've been trying to do it in the middle of matches. I'll practice it when my friends leave though.

[blitz]

I managed to do one rep of the lockdown o.O OMGSOHARD It's exactly as mike said. If you have a peripheral with very little travel on the buttons, it's much easier, but with the stick I have (SFAC) it's very difficult ;_; I'm torn between the finger switching and just being quick on a single finger... being able to do it with one finger might be more beneficial/versatile. I don't know which will pan out better though, seeing as the finger switching might afford a more consistent way to rythmize it =\

[Teyah]

1) Set yoyo, hold H button 2) Flick autofire switch on HRAP 3) (can anyone confirm that this works?)

[blitz]

where's the sport in that?! =( and besides, the hitting part of the glitch is something I haven't got yet, even though I did exactly as hellmonkey suggested. There's either something else to it, or it's removed just like air set5...

[Purrin]

The hit is in there. I thought it was removed as well but it's there. I think it comes out only when timed right while you actually connect a hit (c.s for example). I was able to do a few s, HSR's into themselves. It's pretty friggin tough. But also it's aweseomely good. You can cancel HSB over and over while in the air for silly floatiness as well. Someone with turbo should test if you can just float forever or something, lol. HSB is cancelable into every type of roger, even the super(yoyo has to be full screen for the super to come out before it returns though). Same timing as HSB into HSB..just add a motion.

[blitz]

fuck, now I got it. I have to apologize to hellmonkey =( but... air set5. im still crying over that one.

[Hellmonkey]

fuck, now I got it.

I have to apologize to hellmonkey =(

but... air set5.

im still crying over that one.

Sorry about air set 5, no new info from Japanese players about a way to do it that I can see

NP about the combo, I had a feeling it was just tricky

[Jais]

Hellmonkey; I feel kinda stupid calling people by handles sometimes =P, How exactly did you get that this is a 3 frame bug? Does anybody have a way of testing the exact timing of the bug so it can be discussed w/ out assumptions, like I keep doing. =P

[MacArthur Blunts]

Found something kind of dumb... in a corner, if you're trying the c.S callback loop and you get the animation for the callback but the yo-yo dissapears, c.S will still combo. So, even if you miss the hitbox frame and only get the callback animation, you can still combo into a knockdown and re-set the yo-yo.

[blitz]

yeah, that's what was happening in the glitch vid

[MacArthur Blunts]

I don't think I've seen a glitch vid where Buri cancels c.S with recall and yo-yo not hitting but c.S still comboing. If you have, please, give me a link so I can see it.

[blitz]

rewatch the original glitch vid. That's exactly what happens. He screws up the lockdown in the beginning like that and continues. Though I'm probably just seeing things...

[MacArthur Blunts]

Yeah, I believe you are. Considering what I posted is that if you see Bridget do the little twitch animation and the yo-yo is no longer on screen during c.S lockdown/combo, another c.S will combo because Bridget canceled the recovery of c.S with the bug. He could not continue the lockdown with what I posted because there would not have been a yo-yo on screen...

[blitz]

right then, just a misunderstanding =P

[burningvigor]

wait.. so doing come back over and over is a glitch? Can I do something like, come back hold it then roll let go of yo yo then turn it into a razor roger. Is that glitch or something you can do, because i dont have the game yet, but seen stuff like this in vids.

[MacArthur Blunts]

just got a 13 hit c.S recall-recharge loop. Holy fuck. Technique: Charge yo-yo with your middle finger and hit S with your index finger. After hitting c.S, fuckin blast your index finger over to H to recharge then hold down H with your middle finger and hit S with index again. Repeat. You can use any other fingers you want. Anyone else got a different technique that nets you the lockdown/combo consistantly? I still need to start hitting 6 after the recharge, though. I can only get 5 or 6 reps before I have to KSMH for knockdown.

[inkblot]

Has anyone gotten a glitched yo-yo to hit without comboing from a S or some other button? To practice the timing I'm just doing HSB, HSR repeatedly. No c.S, no nothing. I have NEVER gotten the yo-yo to hit while doing this (after probably around 100 successful cancels), even though the yo-yo moves a fair amount on the (HSR~HSB). I doubt my timing is so exact that I'm canceling on the 1st frame every time. :D Has anyone gotten the yo-yo to hit under these circumstances?

[LH621]

Im new posting to this thread but ive notice that i cant get it to hit either if u just call the yo yo back and stop it again. Only way ive gotten the yo yo to actually hit someone is by either hitting then with c.S or doing some roger callout as it comes back. On the bright side, its nice that a call back ~ FB Roger Hug is a natural combo if done right

[inkblot]

Im new posting to this thread but ive notice that i cant get it to hit either if u just call the yo yo back and stop it again. Only way ive gotten the yo yo to actually hit someone is by either hitting then with c.S or doing some roger callout as it comes back. On the bright side, its nice that a call back ~ FB Roger Hug is a natural combo if done right

Thanks for the confirmation. Good to know I'm not crazy.

[MacArthur Blunts]

Yeah you gotta do the HSB~HSR while they are in hitstun from a yo-yo cancellable move or else it will not have a hitbox.

[inkblot]

Yeah you gotta do the HSB~HSR while they are in hitstun from a yo-yo cancellable move or else it will not have a hitbox.

Well there are three parts right: The buffer, the return, and the re-buffer that cancels the return. What parts have to be done while they're in hit stun? Just the second two? Will this work:

Hold HS, c.S, release HS~hold HS

Or do you have to do:

c.S, Hold HS, release HS~hold HS

See what I mean?

[blitz]

no, you have to be already buffering the yoyo before striking the opponent, because you have to release and rebuffer in a very small window directly after the beginning of that strikes' hitstun. Make sense?