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[P4AU] Marie vs Margaret

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Discuss your thoughts on the Margaret matchup here.

General Gameplan

Get in and stay in. Her poor defense means she has to respect Marie's pressure a lot more than most other characters.


Setplay

Her 236C and sweep both shut down neutral setplay attempts, so you have to pull presents or place eyes after a knockdown. Her spears also destroy eyes, so you can't really work them in aside from extended blockstrings.


Offense

 

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Defense

 

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Things to Look Out For

Even more so than in other matchups, you do NOT want to whiff 5C, 2C, or 5B because of their huge recovery and Margaret's ridiculous CH damage.


Summary

 

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These are just some things i found in training mode

 

  • You can react to fullscreen ( or near full ) sweep >236C if you have good reactions with 236236D the timing is hard but it works
  • Some Margarets like to do 2A>2B>5C>5B>5AAAAA>short-hop jC, there's a big enough gap to mash 2B through
  • Reversal Panta Rhei can be punished with 236236B or 236236D, also if they try to mash it out while we are doing a cross-up, it will either auto correct so we can punish with 236236B again, or it'll whiff and we can get a 5C punish or Igor punish if you are fast enough and didn't crossup too far
  • If you do strings like 5AA>5C>5B>2A+B or 5AA>2B>5C>2C while they are in blockstun add 214A~D to the end of the string and then you can bait almost everything she with backdash or if you have a good read you can just use another normal to punish things like her 2A
  • Her DP startup is long enough for us to backdash after 5BB no delay

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