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#1 26 October 2010 - 02:11 AM

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Since Spark gave the okay, here it is.

Only one rule: all discussion is fine "as long as all the chatter stays related to BB". So talking about tourneys and all that is fine, but drunk off-topic "FML" posts are not. ;)

This thread should keep the others cleaner and more focused, so all the random Haku stuff can go here.

First order of the day: finding a cool thread title because I can't think of one atm.

Discuss!

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Mashing doesn't help when [Spark]'s going to Hotaru your nuts.


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#2 26 October 2010 - 02:16 AM

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#3 26 October 2010 - 02:23 AM

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#4 26 October 2010 - 02:39 AM

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How about: "The Justice Chat"?

When do you guys find it is the best time to do hop tsubaki/hotaru, and when to tk it? I personally see no real use for hop specials except to make them fear you hopping, tk is quicker to use and more effective than hop specials, thoughts?

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NO. We aren't mu/lambda/nu.

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#5 26 October 2010 - 02:43 AM

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How about: "The Justice Chat"?

When do you guys find it is the best time to do hop tsubaki/hotaru, and when to tk it? I personally see no real use for hop specials except to make them fear you hopping, tk is quicker to use and more effective than hop specials, thoughts?

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i do hop when they think they are out on my range then bam they die. TK is when you are already on top of them.
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#6 26 October 2010 - 02:46 AM

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"Justice Chat" is a-go for now. Title will change with the mood.

Hop is good while working a ground game. TK is when they're on top of you (or you on them). The distance can be enough to make a difference and hop creates pressure on its own, so both have uses.

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#7 26 October 2010 - 02:51 AM

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"Justice Chat" is a-go for now. Title will change with the mood.


What? C'mon...That shit is so typical and boring. ;-;
Ah well it's not like I can really think of anything better. :v:

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#8 26 October 2010 - 02:55 AM

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Well, looks like it won't be going up since it seems only a mod can change the title. @_@

Unless I'm doing it wrong, I thought you could just edit the first post's title and that would change the thread title, but it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, Justice Chat is a nice starter to set the tone and it's temporary. Joke titles'll be up in no time. Chill.

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#9 26 October 2010 - 03:03 AM

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Only mods can change thread titles. Interesting info about hop specials, I'll start using hops when/if I get an arcade stick.

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#10 26 October 2010 - 03:06 AM

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Anyway, why am I so free with corner combos? I never really hit the j.2C after the j.2A and if I do, I always whiff the 2C realunch... Is there some kind of secret forbidden timing unbeknownst to common man?? :psyduck:

not in the threads, circ gets mad. well hes always mad but he gets even more angry.


#11 26 October 2010 - 03:11 AM

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Anyway, why am I so free with corner combos? I never really hit the j.2C after the j.2A and if I do, I always whiff the 2C realunch... Is there some kind of secret forbidden timing unbeknownst to common man?? :psyduck:




its because you suck.

j2A then depending on the hieght either immedieatly J2C 2C or delay it slightly so when the j2C hits the landing cancels the rest of the animation.
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#12 26 October 2010 - 03:16 AM

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Anyway, why am I so free with corner combos? I never really hit the j.2C after the j.2A and if I do, I always whiff the 2C realunch... Is there some kind of secret forbidden timing unbeknownst to common man?? :psyduck:

The secret unbeknownst to most players is "training mode", with that said: http://www.youtube.c...next=1&index=31
Enjoy. Watch. And. Learn:eng101:

Real talk watching these vids taught me all of hakumens combos along with just trying random shit out in training mode.

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#13 26 October 2010 - 03:17 AM

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its because you suck.


That's what she said. :3

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@7 lol I think I've actually watched those before. Apparently I didn't gain anything from it. :psyduck:

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#14 26 October 2010 - 03:23 AM

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That's what she said. :3

Stay gdlk.


@7 lol I think I've actually watched those before. Apparently I didn't gain anything from it. :psyduck:


njmamm what have i told you about bringing your ex girlfriend (dog) into this? quit clogging our thread and masyer that combo.

6323AA j2A fJ2C 2C j2A ad J2A JC 5C 3C theres a simple 1
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#15 26 October 2010 - 03:26 AM

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jump B (blocked)> hop tsubaki > hits them high> do combo > *feel badass >:D*

alternate route > blocks tsubaki high> takes off a primer > *feel only slightly badass :/*

#16 26 October 2010 - 03:28 AM

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njmamm what have i told you about bringing your ex girlfriend (dog) into this? quit clogging our thread and masyer that combo.

6323AA j2A fJ2C 2C j2A ad J2A JC 5C 3C theres a simple 1


yes OBVIOUSLY i have a means to practice this :v:

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#17 26 October 2010 - 03:58 AM

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yes OBVIOUSLY i have a means to practice this :v:


yup now stfu and go do it :v: :v: :v: :v: :v:
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#18 26 October 2010 - 04:15 AM

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6323AA j2A fJ2C 2C j2A ad J2A JC 5C 3C theres a simple 1


Am I crazy or is that combo messed up a bit?

6323aa? Then doing a j2a right after? Not a j2c?

#19 26 October 2010 - 04:19 AM

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you can change it somewhat but in the corner is usaully 623AA j2A j2C 2C j2A j2A ad j2A jC 5C 3C

and no its not messed up.
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#20 26 October 2010 - 04:21 AM

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lol pwning the noobs

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#21 26 October 2010 - 04:25 AM

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@7 lol I think I've actually watched those before. Apparently I didn't gain anything from it. :psyduck:

Learning combos is like learning concepts at school, everyone learns differently. For me, I'm a visual learner (I'm in the top 5 percentile for 20-25 year olds in terms of image reproduction). But, my reading comprehension skills are wickedly poor (learning disability level) so I can't learn combos from reading it, they confuse and irritate the shit out of me.

Hence, why just find combos vids every time I get my hands on the latest GG/BB and grind out the combos. Reading the combos don't work for me, and actually seeing the combos you can watch closely and carefully where the timing and inputs lie. If you're in school use the same methods that allows to become most receptive to what you need to know.

And finally, you need to practice those combos in live combat, I like putting the the games difficulty at hell and then go into training mode with ragna on 100 comp difficulty. Also set heat and health to no regenerate, this is a quick way of getting into that comfortable zone with you combos, then do the combos against REAL people.

That's how I have learned to play GG/BB for every installment. Learning fighters is like taking a new class, you can't just work hard, you have to work smart:eng101:

Hope that helps.

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#22 26 October 2010 - 04:30 AM

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you can change it somewhat but in the corner is usaully 623AA j2A j2C 2C j2A j2A ad j2A jC 5C 3C

and no its not messed up.


Oh, wasn't aware it was a corner combo. What about the 6323 input then?

#23 26 October 2010 - 04:34 AM

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Does playing against the computer actually help though? Don't they just DP anything you input?

Also I'm not sure how I feel about this thread. I foresee the possibility of it turning into a spam pit. :8/:

Then again, I guess if the Tagers and Bangs can do it, so can we.
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#24 26 October 2010 - 04:38 AM

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Does playing against the computer actually help though? Don't they just DP anything you input?

Also I'm not sure how I feel about this thread. I foresee the possibility of it turning into a spam pit. :8/:

Then again, I guess if the Tagers and Bangs can do it, so can we.


I'm not good enough to have a respectable opinion, but logically I don't think it would help because computers tend to do things humans never would, and aren't affected by mindgames/oki like humans are.

#25 26 October 2010 - 04:42 AM

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Learning combos is like learning concepts at school, everyone learns differently. For me, I'm a visual learner (I'm in the top 5 percentile for 20-25 year olds in terms of image reproduction). But, my reading comprehension skills are wickedly poor (learning disability level) so I can't learn combos from reading it, they confuse and irritate the shit out of me.

Hence, why just find combos vids every time I get my hands on the latest GG/BB and grind out the combos. Reading the combos don't work for me, and actually seeing the combos you can watch closely and carefully where the timing and inputs lie. If you're in school use the same methods that allows to become most receptive to what you need to know.

And finally, you need to practice those combos in live combat, I like putting the the games difficulty at hell and then go into training mode with ragna on 100 comp difficulty. Also set heat and health to no regenerate, this is a quick way of getting into that comfortable zone with you combos, then do the combos against REAL people.

That's how I have learned to play GG/BB for every installment. Learning fighters is like taking a new class, you can't just work hard, you have to work smart:eng101:

Hope that helps.


Thanks, yeah. Learning is learning. Be it whatever. Everything applies.
I find that looking at both sides will help you reinforce it. I mean, generally, looking at vids seem more clear to me, but for some things you really just have to read it (mostly GG shit). So yeah it's best to understand all prspectives.

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#26 26 October 2010 - 04:54 AM

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Does playing against the computer actually help though? Don't they just DP anything you input?

Also I'm not sure how I feel about this thread. I foresee the possibility of it turning into a spam pit. :8/:

Then again, I guess if the Tagers and Bangs can do it, so can we.

I would only advise playing against ragna, to get used to performing your combos under pressure, his a.i I find is the least abused among the rest of the cast. Jin's a.i only spams dp's and fireballs. Ragna's amazingly fast dp's teach you to barrier block in the air as well.

Contrarily, having ragna on low a.i will not provide you with that pressure you need to truly get the hang of performing your combos. Hence, why I said max difficulty, learning to punish the computers missed dp's as you would see in an actual match, and learning to zone in order to build stars. As well as getting used to the new zanshin combos. It worked for me, ask sophis about my offline skills.

Thanks, yeah. Learning is learning. Be it whatever. Everything applies.
I find that looking at both sides will help you reinforce it. I mean, generally, looking at vids seem more clear to me, but for some things you really just have to read it (mostly GG shit). So yeah it's best to understand all prspectives.

Concepts are different from combos. Concepts I find at least, can only truly be understood by watching AND reading it.

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#27 26 October 2010 - 04:59 AM

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Concepts are different from combos. Concepts I find at least, can only truly be understood by watching AND reading it.


Concepts...Hmm, what do you mean? :psyduck: lol2lazy2think@1am

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#28 26 October 2010 - 05:02 AM

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Concepts...Hmm, what do you mean? :psyduck: lol2lazy2think@1am

Cancels, while they may be simple, reading them isn't the same as seeing it, especially reading about what cancels into what and seeing it.

Anyone who plays fighters, knows about cancels, but someone new to the genre wouldn't know about it.

Only one I could think of at the moment, doing homework at the moment:8/:

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#29 26 October 2010 - 05:04 AM

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stop explaining things to him. he clogs threads because his ps3 is gone and hes dead in new jerseyyyyyy.
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#30 26 October 2010 - 05:05 AM

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Cancels, while they may be simple, reading them isn't the same as seeing it, especially reading about what cancels into what and seeing it.

Anyone who plays fighters, knows about cancels, but someone new to the genre wouldn't know about it.

Only one I could think of at the moment, doing homework at the moment:8/:

Ah, right.

lol im doing hw too. its terrible what im doing right now rly :v:

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