[CP] Hakumen General Discussion

[BladeOfJustice7]

It's fine no rush, I appreciate the help.

EDIT: dioxide are you upper east coast?

[dioxideUniversa]

I am US central. Also, sorry I sort of fell off with the video thread, didn't know what to do with half the videos being banned already and I haven't looked into ripping / reuploading since then :I

[BladeOfJustice7]

I am US central.

Upper central, middle central, or southern central? Just trying to gauge what type of connection we'd have on psn, you're probably the only person I'm interested in playing against on psn.

Also, sorry I sort of fell off with the video thread, didn't know what to do with half the videos being banned already and I haven't looked into ripping / reuploading since then :I

You shouldn't take any blame I'm the one in charge of the thread anyways, I'm the one with the OP, and the one who said they'd manage the Hakumen Video thread(s).

[LegendaryRath]

Just gonna mention that I'm down to play on PSN a lot of the time. I'm in Arizona, but it couldn't hurt to at least test the connection once. I get bored xD
Dioxide, after the last time we played I sent you a friend request.

Blade, there's nothing wrong with asking for help on threads. It shouldn't ever be the responsibility of one individual to manage something like that. here and there it's alright to get lazy :P

[BladeOfJustice7]

Blade, there's nothing wrong with asking for help on threads. It shouldn't ever be the responsibility of one individual to manage something like that. here and there it's alright to get lazy :P

If you know me personally, I excessively critical of myself. I'll try to keep that in mind bro

This is NEVER going to get old, mostly because it's actually not easy to do lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...fd4wgcvA#t=43s


I could see this as what the Tager matchup will look like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...9uoUoJo#t=256s

The nerf to 2d's grab range, let alone it being able to be blocked means we're going to have to be ready to use enma on tager's drives. Which is actually a buff, since you'll always have one star.

[BladeOfJustice7]

NO BACK DASHES ALLOWED: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...P-cakyQ#t=329s

[LegendaryRath]

NO BACK DASHES ALLOWED: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...P-cakyQ#t=329s

I was wondering when I would see some more OD shenanigans again. Always smile inducing.

[Tecta1Eastside]

Dang even i feel bad now for not helping out.
Trying to keep up with all the cp mu-12 vids is rough though.
you doing a good job blade and the rest of yall

[mAc Chaos]

because it further "forces" the false incentive that haku must be played rush down when thats not the case.

as much as that doesnt make sense, conversations with other players have proven this statement.

hes dumb now, he can rstd.

dont think like that, its no longer a forced playstyle, it is now a choice.

your choice.

especially now that defense in CP isnt horribly punished anymore.

no guard libra, no guard primers, just reactable guard breakers that require 25 heat.

also id still choose JC over 4C

What do you mean? He's dumb because he can RTSD?

A good post which changed my view of hakumen. It is true, being a strictly defensive character is what killed him in CT, he had no way of starting his offense and needed you to make a mistake.

Well, that's not all true. Most of his matchups were actually not THAT bad. Like, 5.5 and 6. But then you had the top tier which would murder him. Being defensive isn't automatically being bad or incomplete. He just had less ways to deal with zoners + they're supposed to give him a hard time anyway. If they wanted to make him more defensive without being weak they could have found ways to do that, instead of stressing his offense instead and ditching his original style.

I like CP Hakumen but I also kind of feel like he's a one combo character with that j.2C loop of his. I guess you could kind of say that with his older combo routes but he got enough damage from them without being forced to basically do that one combo or get nothing. CP Hakumen looked like he was solid middle tier until they found that one route along with OD stuff.

[BladeOfJustice7]

I was wondering when I would see some more OD shenanigans again. Always smile inducing.

Same here lol, looking forward to Azrael's OD shenanigans.

Dang even i feel bad now for not helping out.
Trying to keep up with all the cp mu-12 vids is rough though.
you doing a good job blade and the rest of yall

Thanks for the encouragement

What do you mean? He's dumb because he can RTSD?

You're misunderstanding what he's saying. People think hakumen is dumb because he can rtsd, but he's saying no, that doesn't make him dumb. You just have the choice now of being rush down oriented as opposed to his original CT design of strictly a defensive character.

Now you have a choice as to hwo you wanna play hakumen.

Well, that's not all true. Most of his matchups were actually not THAT bad. Like, 5.5 and 6. But then you had the top tier which would murder him. Being defensive isn't automatically being bad or incomplete. He just had less ways to deal with zoners + they're supposed to give him a hard time anyway. If they wanted to make him more defensive without being weak they could have found ways to do that, instead of stressing his offense instead and ditching his original style.

I like CP Hakumen but I also kind of feel like he's a one combo character with that j.2C loop of his. I guess you could kind of say that with his older combo routes but he got enough damage from them without being forced to basically do that one combo or get nothing. CP Hakumen looked like he was solid middle tier until they found that one route along with OD stuff.

hence why he was incomplete, he couldn't handle certain matchups. Because they didn;t give him the necessary tools to deal with them.


Yukikaze, soooo good (Russel Peter's voice): http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...hoerahk#t=489s