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Thread: [CSE] Relius Clover Critique and Self-Improvement Thread

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    Alright, though since that combo builds 65 meter, wouldn't it be ok if I used it? i mean if I hit 100% meter, i will be wasting potential heat gain.

    Would I be able to omit the final 5C(2)>4D>6C>Distortion and just go 3C>Unblockable Reset? I can't play right now so I can't test it.
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by someonewhodied View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AtWo9kDS20

    (@ 6:31)

    I know I'm terrible at everything but combos, but how can I improve? (Also, I started trolling when I realized i could win regardless of how I played)
    This Ragna is awful.

    That being said, your decisions at neutral are only working out here because this Ragna is absolutely awful and has now idea on how to use the tools he has available to him. You should be using doll more at neutral to cover yourself so you can get in and apply pressure more consistently than relying on footsie games with 5B alone (it is dangerous to engage in footsie games with Ragna anyway). You're only utilizing air dashing in terms of mobility in the air, and that isn't a good idea, especially against someone with a good anti-air like Ragna (or, he could have just air thrown you all day, that's what I would have done).

    Zeron is right, generally speaking (especially against Ragna), you should be using meter for counter-assaults and RCs (to recharge meter, sometimes to kill), and only should be using a super at the end of your combos if it'll kill. You CAN use 632146D to catch people or their whiffs sometimes (which you did in round 3), but that isn't the rule of thumb, and you can generally get better damage or positioning off of other starters.

    It's really hard to say anything else because your opponent was just really bad, or really, really new to Ragna or BlazBlue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siefer View Post
    This Ragna is awful.

    That being said, your decisions at neutral are only working out here because this Ragna is absolutely awful and has now idea on how to use the tools he has available to him. You should be using doll more at neutral to cover yourself so you can get in and apply pressure more consistently than relying on footsie games with 5B alone (it is dangerous to engage in footsie games with Ragna anyway). You're only utilizing air dashing in terms of mobility in the air, and that isn't a good idea, especially against someone with a good anti-air like Ragna (or, he could have just air thrown you all day, that's what I would have done).

    Zeron is right, generally speaking (especially against Ragna), you should be using meter for counter-assaults and RCs (to recharge meter, sometimes to kill), and only should be using a super at the end of your combos if it'll kill. You CAN use 632146D to catch people or their whiffs sometimes (which you did in round 3), but that isn't the rule of thumb, and you can generally get better damage or positioning off of other starters.

    It's really hard to say anything else because your opponent was just really bad, or really, really new to Ragna or BlazBlue.
    True. He was probably as new to blazblue in general as I am to using relius. (Like, first 10 matches new)
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    is this still open? anyway, l figured i'd post my only relius vid in here for critique.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewI1rSamaI8

    not the best play... i'd say my relius pressure is very basic. l really only focus on getting in and doing 2b 5b 6d x alot (ppl start getting hit by 2b after about the third rep LOL), and finally mixing in high/throw/other stuff after im absolutely sure the foe wont move. l still have this as my gameplan, its quite effective even now.

    so yeah, only the first match is of relius, the rest is rachel/litchi. up to you guys if you wanna watch the rest.

    and of course, obligatory thanks to zeth for the upload
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    Dam you TD. Your really solid and use other characters, while Im stuck with only Relius.

    That aside, if you want some better pressure, try using 3C in your blockstrings. As the only jcable move on block we've got, you can use that to get in; even better if you use 6D or 2D as cover. Also, you can try doing 2B>6D>6A>6D. It will make your overhead completely safe if you time it right. Then, if you can condition your opponent to know that blockstring, you can do 2B>6D>6A/2B/throw>6D to keep pressuring them. Remember that you can only use 6A from 5A, 2A, 5B, and 2B.

    I also like to do random 6C's in my blockstrings to fish for fatals although 6C is slow and you have frame disadvantage on block. With Ignis, you can cover the startup, and if it connects, you can do 214A, led ley or 214C. Same with 2C. On block, after 2C you can use 3C, 214A, led ley, or 6C.

    @00:26 you did a fatal 2C. I've trained myself to always use 214C after a fatal 2C, Ignis summoned or not. I would then use sjc>jB>jC>9D>jC>9D>air id lauger>214B. Gives 38 meter and does about 3.8k damage *drains 2/3 of Ignis meter though*. However since you were near the corner, I think doing this would be better: 2C(fatal)>214C>6C>id lauger>214A>whatever.

    I think you should use more 4D and 214C to have pinned Zeth more. Or have used 632146C @ 1:02 when you saw Ignis' meter almost drained. Or @ 1:15, you could have used 236236D.

    Really, there's not much I don't think you already know. You've got a solid Relius already. Especially with this Bang, since high mobility characters give Relius a hard time since we can't pin them down easily.
    Last edited by Feelin'TheWind; 04-16-2012 at 09:42 AM.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by TD View Post
    and of course, obligatory thanks to zeth for the upload
    How might I obtain said upload services? I know BBVlog used to do them, but they went on hold for a while...

    I'd love some critique. I'm frustrated out of my mind trying to pick out what to do better/how to do it. @_@
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