The "Help Using a Joystick" Thread

[Gawse Council]

On day 3 now and I'm really getting a feel for it already :3 I want to hold a player match for intermediate stick users tonight. You know?

[kriaser]

I think there's still quite a large misunderstanding about "being used to a stick". When this is said, it means you're fluent in all forms and types of fighting games along with their mechanics. These would include plinking, negative edge, buffering, etc, along with being able to do a large variety of combos from different cast members. You're really not going to have many specifics down from only 3 days =/

Learn to do Nu's TK saber feint (2147D~C) and see if you can get that 5 times in a row without pausing. Once you can do that, do it 10 times. TKing isn't usable to all characters, but it's still used in several of the cast members (Ragna, Jin, Nu). Not to mention, TKing is viable throughout many other fighting games.

Another drill to practice is hit confirming. Timing with a stick is different than with a pad since you're using fingers instead of just your thumb. I would recommend using SF4 for this because of tick throws and generally simplier combos. See here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDMboPnznJc

[Circuitous]

That was a great video.

[ALS-02]

I was wondering what the difference between sanwa and seimitsu push buttons are? It seems majority of stick users go with sanwa, why?

My bad if this isn't really the right thread to ask my question, but I found it more convenient than creating a new thread over a small question.

[kriaser]

Sanwa are generally more durable and have better sensitivity. Arcade sticks need to take a beating since they're suppose to last you a long while.

[FullAutoDeath]

Sanwa pushbuttons are a lot more sensitive, you can just hardly brush your fingers over them and the input will be registered. Seimitsu buttons take more force to engage, but both are very responsive. Sanwa is much more popular in cabinets and the like so I would guess people are more used to them.

[Justice7541]

If I recall correctly I think Seimitsu buttons are a bit "clickier", while Sanwa tend to be a bit more smooth on the plunge. Sort of like their sticks, I guess.

[mAc Chaos]

So, I just got a stick for my birthday and I'm starting to use it. One thing I noticed is that it's harder to tell where the stick exactly is; when I'm using a dpad, my thumb covers most of it so its easy to tell by touch where I'm pushing it... whereas with the stick I'm a bit in the dark still if I'm pushing forward or down-forward too much, thus getting 3C instead of 6C, etc.

Also is it normal to "ride the gates"? I'm doing my moves by listening for the clicks on the stick. For 623 I'm doing the actual Z motion.

My hands were getting tired just from a few matches, though... on the pad I can normally go hours and hours and be fine.

[FlyingVe]

First keep at the stick, you'll get used to it, less tired, less gate riding, etc. Everyone has trouble with the square gates at first, because it puts emphasis on the diagonals as opposed to the cardinal directions, but practice makes perfect. If you are new to stick, I recommend feeling your way around at first (i.e. riding the gate), eventually you will get a feel for the stick's locations, and you will back off the gate and your execution will tighten up.

Edit: What grip do you use. If you're getting overly tired you might consider another one. Personally I use the wineglass grip, but kinda tipped on its side.

[mAc Chaos]

I don't really have one yet. I just pinch the ball between my index finger and thumb. That seemed the natural way to use it but I can't do things like dashing so something else might be better. That or I just change how I'm holding it depending on what move I want to do, to whatever makes it easier.