The "Help Using a Joystick" Thread

[Anfingrimm]

I assigned shortcuts for Rapid Cancel and Taunt to LT and RT on my controller, and it's a habit that's stuck. It works for me.

As for other games I can play with a stick... I think all I've got is Skullgirls (which I've barely touched so far).

[Shazam]

Just a warning though, if you ever end up playing on a cabinet you'll be out of luck because there's only 4 buttons. I had maps for rapid/burst/barrier/grab on pad but I feel it's unnecessary on stick; I have no qualms with just pressing two or three buttons when they're all laid out on a flat surface and in a row. Do whatever you want.


Skullgirls is not what exactly what I was going for. I'm talking about something really casual to get you used to having the stick in your hand instead of a pad. Shoot 'em ups, platformers, certain RPGs, single stick action games (something that you don't need to control the camera a lot/two sticks) are more along the line of what I like to use my stick for. MegaMan X is a good one. Your stick should work with your PC clean. Just plug in and configure the buttons with the game/program. Although, Skullgirls plays a lot better on stick too, you should give that one another shot.

[_rFX]

Sooo...I was perfectly fine with playing on pad, and if there's one and only one aspect of fighting games in which I'm actually kinda-semi-not a complete pile of smoldering garbage at, it's execution.
I just really get a kick out of doing the fanciest, craziest stuff, and I never felt like playing pad was in any way limiting that.............but~ I always did want a few extra buttons to play with, or at least a more comfortable layout to make multi-button inputs slightly less awkward, and so I bought one of those Hori pads. It was pretty awesome for a bit. More ergonomic and all that jazz+it had actual buttons for L2/R2 instead of those stupid triggers that the DS3 has. The only problem was they built it with the Guinness Book of World Record's current record holder for world's cheapest plastic, and it busted after like a week.
...Then I bought another one, hoping it was just bad luck or something, but that broke after about a month too >.>.

So anyway; I rage-purchased an arcade stick(Q4RAF), and while I don't regret it; I guess I underestimated how difficult it would be to make the controller shift, because suddenly dashes/IADs are a really complicated input.
I can't seem to find any comfortable way to hold it(I never got the whole 'can't play for extended periods with pad' thing, but I'm sort of getting it with stick). No matter how I do, it's mind-bogglingly hard to dash left. Dashing in general is tricky, but the only way I can even dash left at all is by letting go of it completely and just kinda...tapping it with my middle finger.
......I get the feeling that that might not be the best approach. I'm trying to practice simple stuff with characters that I'm already familiar with, but even attempting something as simple as dash 5C or dash 3C with Hazama is...disheartening.

I know it just takes time to get accustomed, but I wouldn't want to keep practicing something the wrong way either.
For dashing left specifically; I don't see any possible way to do it that would be even remotely natural to me. Trying to pull towards the direction of your arm goes against everything I believe in
Also not exactly sure how to configure the buttons. First thought was 4 fingers 4 buttons, but......yeah~no. Pinkies are a worthless, good for nothing appendage.
For BB at least, I always preferred having D up top as triangle, so I set it up basically the same way with
DC
AB
Is that, erm...normal? Unlike the whole 'all fingers on deck' thing, I'm at least fairly comfortable with it, but idk. *shrug*
Still tempted to use shortcuts, but I'm trying to suck it up and use the simultaneous inputs instead.
...
/pointlessrant

[Shazam]

Dude, I know the feeling exactly. Dashing left specifically or just dashing whenever I really needed to finish a combo used to absolutely wreck my shit. It's a well documented problem for beginners haha.

IAD is pretty easy, the input is something like 9 5 6. Tricky but not really hard. Dashing is just grinding it out. I mean, I won't say I'm perfect yet but instead of 20% success it's more like 70%, but I don't practice enough, lol.

So you don't want to be tense, you want to be the opposite. Calm, collected, and relaxed - not only will you make better decisions but it helps your execution and muscles flow better. Just play matches, forget about training mode, come back to it when you want. Getting your ass kicked enough will toughen you up lol. While you're still in this phase keep with the -playing to learn- motto and forget about winning. Not to discount training mode, the more time you train the better, so long as you're doing it right.

Your BB buttons are all off... now it's not really a big deal unless you ever want to go to Japan and play in their arcades. Some people can consider this but some can't, so it depends on your situation. The only two ways on cabinet are BCD/A or ABC/D with three on top and one on the bottom to the left. I play with the second because of my pad habits and specifically because of Hazama's drive so I can kind of understand where you're coming from.

Don't discount the pinky, especially if you ever want to play Guilty Gear or AH3 - dat 5th button.

tl;dr it's going to suck for awhile but you'll get over it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsME37GrqjY this if you haven't seen it yet.

[freelander]

_rfx

i also just bought a stick(a hori rap) and started practicing.
one trick I found out for the right hand positioning is that these sanwa buttons are so sensitive that you dont even have to push them. because of this i have 4 fingers over the buttons and I use the third phalanx of my little finger to activate the dust button

[Airk]

If you use a 'wineglass' style grip, dashing left is a very similar motion to dashing right.

If you don't, well, I just kinda nudge with my thumb. :P

[Spike6545]

So I just got my stick Friday, a Brawlstick modded with Sanwa parts, and I have few questions. I know it's generally not advised to "ride the gate" when putting in inputs but does that apply to movement as well? I can't seem dash at all without touching the gate.

[mr.mortified]

you can ride the gate if you want to, dashing is okay

[sogeking90]

So can someone explain the logic for the correct joystick layout for Guilty Gear?

[Circuitous]

Unless you mean logic as in why they would set it up like that, in which case I have no idea. It works, though.