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Thread: Guide for People Coming from SF to New-School Fighters, Part 1

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    FLYINGCOMBOCANNTDROP 4r5's Avatar
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    In almost all fighting games, when you block an attack, your hitbox is fixed to the hitbox of whatever guard animation for the duration of the guardstun. So if you guard an attack high, and someone followups with an attack that normal whiffs if you're crouching, but doesn't whiff if you're standing, the attack won't whiff. Regardless of if you are crouching.

    A simple example is something like,
    With Ky, do a stunedge>FRC>IAD j.S
    and have someone block the stunedge standing, then immediately go to a crouch. If you do it right, they can't crouch the j.S to make it whiff.

    The term originated from 3D games, and got mangled on it's why to 2D games. In 3D games, it means something completely different.
    Last edited by 4r5; 06-23-2010 at 07:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4r5 View Post
    In almost all fighting games, when you block an attack, your hitbox is fixed to the hitbox of whatever guard animation for the duration of the guardstun. So if you guard an attack high, and someone followups with an attack that normal whiffs if you're crouching, but doesn't whiff if you're standing, the attack won't whiff. Regardless of if you are crouching.

    A simple example is something like,
    With Ky, do a stunedge>FRC>IAD j.S
    and have someone block the stunedge standing, then immediately go to a crouch. If you do it right, they can't crouch the j.S to make it whiff.

    The term originated from 3D games, and got mangled on it's why to 2D games. In 3D games, it means something completely different.
    For those of you who don't know what 4r5 is talking about, he is talking about fuzzyguard. Xenozip also wrote a little thing about it on his blog: http://xenozipnotes.blogspot.com/201...zzy-guard.html

    Here is the video from Xenozip's example, so you can see what it looks like in actual play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC83K...layer_embedded

  3. #13
    Nice article. Was there ever a part 2 written?

  4. #14
    edited the opening post with the recovered lost guide. I'm thinking about making this in video format and then start planning part 2.
    Fighting game tutorials, matches, and funny stuff:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/playtowin

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    Excellent update, looking forward to more sections.

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    I took a small part of my guide and made a movie fit for this new generation of scrubs
    http://youtu.be/sf4-gYnCgXM
    Last edited by tataki; 01-30-2012 at 05:41 AM.
    Fighting game tutorials, matches, and funny stuff:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/playtowin

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by tataki View Post
    I took a small part of my guide and made a movie fit for this new generation of scrubs
    http://youtu.be/sf4-gYnCgXM
    I liked the video... Please continue to make these videos.
    Thanks
    huey253: who has better oki
    huey253: than rachel
    Herbal Grey: um bang

  8. #18
    agreed, videos make this guide much better

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    http://youtu.be/eoMgFbswe04
    How to watch match vids
    Fighting game tutorials, matches, and funny stuff:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/playtowin

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    Was just re-reading this, and noticed it said that you can do nothing during airdashes, which is incorrect (at least in BB) as you can definitely still attack. Might merit an update, since right now it explicitly says "no attacking"
    5B "oki" for the win.

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