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*Tager's fastest grounded normal
*Tager's fastest grounded normal
*More range than most jabs
*One of the exceptionally few 5As in the game hits both standing and crouching opponents, making it an extremely reliable jab.
*One of the exceptionally few 5As in the game hits both standing and crouching opponents, making it an extremely reliable jab.
*Cannot self cancel
*Cannot self cancel
*Decent combo starter
*Decent combo starter
*Good for tick throws
*Good for tick throws
*One of the few normals that Tager can jump cancel, so you can use it to bait bursts. 5A, j.5A is possible early in the combo, allowing some air combos.
*One of the few normals that Tager can jump cancel, so you can use it to bait bursts. 5A > j.5A is possible early in a combo, allowing some air combos.
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* Low risk, Low reward defensive move. Fast startup, big hitbox and safe even on instant block, but can be low profiled.
* Low risk, Low reward defensive move. Fast startup, big hitbox and safe even on instant block, but can be low profiled.
* Applies a shorter magnetism than all other drive moves.
* Applies a shorter magnetism than all other drive moves.
* No cancel options outside of rapid cancel, therefore followups are generally only possible on counterhit, and even then may not be possible. They do however they lead to surprisingly good damage due to a nice P1 and P2. Gives you just about enough time to follow with 3C > AC whiff on standing hit
* No cancel options outside of rapid cancel, therefore followups are generally only possible on counterhit, and even then may not be possible. They do however they lead to surprisingly good damage due to a nice P1 and P2. Gives you just about enough time to follow with 3C > AC whiff on standing counter hit
*Gains Body and Projectile guard point during overdrive.
*Gains Body and Projectile guard point during overdrive.


Tager's only quick drive move, often used at the end of blockstrings and combos to add a bit of magnetism and recover with them still very close. Can be used in some cases as an alternative to Gadget finger to force a tech sooner than they usually expect and get a reset. In some cases 4D can be used mid combo if you can get it to hit while they're at Tager's head height, but it is very tricky. Very effective tick throw setup, but don't get too predictable else they'll jump in response to blocking or being hit with it, but that leads to its own mixup.
Tager's only quick drive move, often used at the end of blockstrings and combos to add a bit of magnetism and recover with them still very close. Can be used in some cases as an alternative to Gadget finger to force a tech sooner than they usually expect and get a reset and sometime 4D can even be used mid combo if you can get it to hit while they're at Tager's head height, but it is very tricky.  
 
Very makes for a very effect tick throw setup, but don't get too predictable else they'll jump in response to blocking or being hit with it, but that leads to its own mixup.
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*Magnetises for 300F (1000F during OD) and is attractive on magnetised opponents, can easily stuff up air spacing.
*Magnetises for 300F (1000F during OD) and is attractive on magnetised opponents, can easily stuff up air spacing.
*Often used in Fatal Counter combos, or after 6C for combos.
*Often used in Fatal Counter combos, or after 6C for combos.
*Hitbox much larger than Tager's arms, can catch people at surprising distances.
*Does not combo after Tager's other air moves without a counterhit, with the exception of j.C on fatal counter combos.
*Does not combo after Tager's other air moves without a counterhit, with the exception of j.C on fatal counter combos.
*Gains Head and Projectile guard point during overdrive (for a longer time and earlier than other drives), allowing it to win most air to air situations with ease.
*Gains Head and Projectile guard point during overdrive (for a longer time and earlier than other drives), allowing it to win most air to air situations with ease.
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*General purpose short ranged special, guard point against all projectiles. Range is similar to 5C.
*General purpose short ranged special, guard point against all projectiles. Range is similar to 5C.
*Can only be followed up with Additional Attack on a standing hit. If your opponent is crouching (Use 6B to force crouch) or during a fatal counter combo, you can follow up with 5A > 5B...
*Can only be followed up with Additional Attack on a standing hit. If your opponent is crouching (Use 6B to force crouch) or during a fatal counter combo, you can follow up with 5A > 3C...
*Can only be followed up on an air hit if the opponent was off the ground, fully downed opponents can only be hit with gadget finger or Additional Attack.
*Can only be followed up on an air hit if the opponent was off the ground, fully downed opponents can only be hit with gadget finger or Additional Attack.
*The safest special cancel Tager has, still punishable on instant block though.
*The safest special cancel Tager has, still punishable on instant block though.
A special move that doesn't get used a lot at neutral due to other normals generally being better choices. While it has frame 1 projectile armour, it doesn't tend to get used much since most players don't use projectiles at such short range, There are a few exceptions however.


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*Disables bursts on hit.
*Disables bursts on hit.
*Can only be used once per jump.
*Can only be used once per jump.
*During the initial arm sweep, Tager is launched slightly upwards and forwards and loses all previous jumping momentum, enabling it to easily hit enemies slightly above him due to air hits, but also makes hitting it on standing opponents very tricky.
*During the initial arm sweep, Tager is launched slightly upwards and forwards and loses all previous jumping momentum, enabling it to easily hit enemies slightly above him due to air hits, but also makes hitting it on standing opponents very tricky. Also not an overhead.
*Can be used as a ghetto double jump to perform crossups and bait out anti-air attacks.
*Can be used as a ghetto double jump to perform crossups and bait out anti-air attacks.
Air combo finisher with big damage. Can be Rapid cancelled on either hit to continue the combo, although this is only worth doing early in the combo. There also exists some cases where the second hit will not actually connect, either due to the smack down attack being techable (only happens in some very long combos) or some external forces causing Tager's fall to miss (such as another Tager's magnetism before the attack hit).
Air combo finisher with big damage. Can be Rapid cancelled on either hit to continue the combo, although this is only worth doing early in the combo. There also exists some cases where the second hit will not actually connect, either due to the smack down attack being techable (only happens in some very long combos) or some external forces causing Tager's fall to miss (such as another Tager's magnetism before the attack hit).
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*15% Minimum damage
*15% Minimum damage
*General purpose Distortion to add good damage to your combo.
*General purpose Distortion to add good damage to your combo.
*Hitbox basically encompasses all of Tager for all parts of the move.
*Counterhit bonus damage applies to all hits of the move
*Counterhit bonus damage applies to all hits of the move
*Can be used as a reversal due to its guard point (Which guards against HBFP), much safer than 720 due to being able to hit airborne opponents. But ensure you have heat left to rapid cancel should you get blocked since you will eat the worst possible combo your opponent has available otherwise.
*Can be used as a reversal due to its guard point (Which guards against HBFP), much safer than 720 due to being able to hit airborne opponents. But ensure you have heat left to rapid cancel should you get blocked since you will eat the worst possible combo your opponent has available otherwise.
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* Expensive reversal, and oddly gives no magnetism, but still very useful since Active flow Tager is pretty terrifying.
* Expensive reversal and oddly gives no magnetism, but still very useful since Active flow Tager is pretty terrifying.
* Launches opponent far away from Tager, unfortunately.
* Launches opponent far away from Tager, unfortunately.
* 10% minimum damage.
* 10% minimum damage.
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*Unblockable attack, Looks like a command throw but cannot be throw rejected.
*Unblockable attack, Looks like a command throw but cannot be throw rejected.
*Combos easily after Spark Bolt, or even more easily after Wedge Catapult.
*Combos easily after Spark Bolt, or even more easily after Wedge Catapult.
*Awful whiff recovery, you basically die.


Not as easily comboable as other Astrals due to the long startup, but still quite usable as a hail mary due to the strong attraction and huge unblockable hitbox. Difficult to use on reaction however due to the long input that needs buffering. In most cases a 720 will work much better as it will always finish someone off in critical health.
Not as easily comboable as other Astrals due to the long startup, but still quite usable as a hail mary due to the strong attraction and huge unblockable hitbox. Difficult to use on reaction however due to the long input that needs buffering. In most cases a 720 will work much better as it will always finish someone off in critical health.

Revision as of 10:36, 14 September 2018

Iron Tager
BBCF Tager Portrait.png
Health:

Combo Rate:
Prejump:
Backdash Time / Invul:


Play-style
Grappler

Overview

Iron Tager is a Sector Seven professor who has been mechanically enhanced to perform field-work. Originally the leader of a Sector Seven assault team sent to retrive Nirvana in the 4th Hierarchical City of Naobi, Tager suffered a mortal wound during the mission, and due to being the only survivor, was forced to withdraw. He was revived as an enormous cyborg by Kokonoe, whom he pledged loyalty to afterward. After his revival, he bears a similar resemblance to a demon, which resulted in him dubbed as the "Red Devil of Sector Seven". He is feared by many, but in truth he is very calm and calculated, only engaging in violence when necessary.

In terms of gameplay, Tager is an archetypal Grappler who uses powerful unblockable grab moves and guard point moves to deal high damage combos. While lacking strong mobility to close in on his opponents, Tager has the ability to magnetise his opponents in order to pull them towards him instead, as well as opening up various combo options which lead to better damage.

Drive: Voltic Battler

Tager can magnetize opponents for a small duration by landing these attacks on hit or block. If the opponent is already magnetized and gets hit by a magnetism attack, the duration increases (max 1000F). When the opponent is magnetized, certain attacks will pull in the opponent (Mores that attract aren't always moves that inflict magnetism and vice versa). The magnetism duration normally reduces at a rate of 1 point per frame, but if Tager's opponent is in hitstun, the rate halves to 1 point per 2 frames (when they perform a tech, the rate goes back to normal). Magnetism duration does not decrease during superflash or hitstop.

In addition to magnetism, Tager has an extra gauge: the Spark Bolt Gauge. This gauge fills up at 1 point per frame (freezes during hitstop and superflash) and has a maximum of 1000 points. When the gauge is full, Tager can use the Spark Bolt attack.

While grounded, the pull effect is fairly controllable and normally has a fairly low maximum speed it can pull in at (About walking pace) and the effect ends very shortly after the move pulling your opponent stops doing so. Tager's magnetism cannot force enemies into an airborne state if they're currently grounded, enemies doing any kind of ground tech also cannot be pulled vertically, even though emergency techs are considered airborne and can be pulled sideways surprisingly fast. However in the air the velocity added can stack up to a very high value and in any direction, only resetting once they touch the ground. This can lead to some strange results, such as opponents being flung, airdashing to cancel their momentum slightly and then going back to their fling velocity once the airdash ends. It can also mess up air moves and spacing.

In all cases, players performing distortion drives are completely unaffected by magnetism.

Overdrive: Voltic Field

  • Magnetized opponents are constantly pulled towards Tager,
  • All normal drive moves all gain projectile guardpoints (As well as attribute specific guardpoints depending on the move)
  • Spark Bolt Gauge fills up four times as fast
  • All moves that apply magnetism apply the maximum amount on hit or block
  • Genesic Emerald Tager Buster increases damage and adds 1000F of magnetism on hit
  • Magna Tech wheel does a third spin before doing the final punch
  • Terra Break deals more damage, wallbounces fully and knocks down hard.

Unlike most other overdrives, Tager's focuses more on taking advantage during neutral, with much stronger methods of applying and keeping magnetism. This isn't to say that it doesn't boost his combo damage, but this is limited to just what the overdrive cancel allows and greatly enhanced distortion drives, rather than boosted normals.

Strengths/Weaknesses

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Highest health total in the game.
  • Really good close range game
  • Huge comeback potential
  • High meter gain on magnetized opponents
  • High level pokes for easy confirms
  • Fairly large hitbox moves
  • Backdash has many invincible frames, useful for getting out of nasty situations
  • Very effective at punishes
  • Possesses the fastest projectile in the game
  • Big hurtbox, allowing for easy fuzzy/unblockable setups
  • Lack of mobility (Although his basic walk is much faster than average)
  • Has trouble against zoners
  • Spark Bolt not always accessible
  • Gameplay revolves around corner and magnetized opponents
  • Requires knowledge and a lot of patience to win at high levels
  • Magnetized foes can sometimes work against you, pulling foes in to confirm an attack they might have whiffed otherwise

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Normal Moves

5A
5A
BBCS Tager 5A.png
The jab of science.
400 All 7 3 11 - B -
5B
5B
BBCS Tager 5B.png
Now with color. And jump cancel.
540 Low 10 3 14 - F -
5C
5C
BBCS Tager 5C.png
Chops! Very good starter as well.
1000 Mid 15 7 15 - B -
2A
2A
BBCS Tager 2A.png
Kind of an anti air.
350 ALL 8 3 10 - B -
2B
2B
BBCS Tager 2B.png
The monkey kick that's surprisingly fast and safe.
580 Low 11 3 9 - F -
2C
2C
BBCS Tager 2C.png
Most manly launcher
1100 Mid 15 2 37 - B -
6A
6A
BBCF Tager 6A.png
Pose when delaying the move...
BBCS Tager 6A.png
...And release
800 Mid 19 7 37 - B - 1000 Mid 52 7 37 - B -
6B
6B
BBCS Tager 6B.png
BBCS Tager 6B 2.png
No longer an overhead, but faster and safer
620 Mid 16 2 18 - B -
6C
6C
BBCS Tager 6C.png
Slow long range overhead. SMASH!!!
1500 High 28 2 33 - B -
3C
3C
BBCS Tager 3C.png
I'mma trip you, and then I'mma make you fly!
810 Low 13 3 22 - F -
j.A
j.A
BBCS Tager jA.png
The best move nobody uses.
400 High/Air 7 3 9 - H -
j.B
j.B
BBCS Tager jB.png
#TheClassic
700 High/Air 10 16 20 - H -
j.C
j.C
BBCS Tager jC.png
The indiscriminate headbutt. Good for closing in on the opponent.
1050 High/Air 13 5 12 - H -
j.2C
j.2C
BBCS Tager j2C.png
The cries of anguish you will hear when this hits.
1200 High/Air 18 Until L+2 18 - H - 1200 High/Air 3 Until L+2 18 - H -


Drive Moves

5D
5D
BBCS Tager 5D.png
The punch of science.
1100 All 23 7 20 - B -
2D
2D
BBCS Tager 2D.png
Be careful of using this move. Whiffing this move can result in unwanted situations.
1200 All 26 10 18 - F -
4D
4D
BBCS Tager 4D.png
Nice blockstring ender because of its speed and frame advantage.
800 ALL 13 4 14 - B -
j.D
j.D
BBCS Tager jD.png
Hot damn that clap hurts.
1120 High/Air 23 4 28+7L - H -


Universal Mechanics

Forward Throw
Forward Throw
BBCS Tager FThrow.png
Powerbomb
0, 1500 Throw(140) 7 3 23 - T -
Back Throw
Back Throw
BBCS Tager BThrow.png
Suplex
0, 1500 Throw(140) 7 3 23 - T -
Air Throw
Air Throw
BBCS Tager AThrow.png
Body slam
0, 1500 Throw(160) 7 3 23+3L - T -
Counter Assault
Counter Assault
BBCS Tager 6B.png
Turn the tables
0 ALL 16 2 31 - B -
Crush Trigger
Crush Trigger
BBCP Tager CrushTrigger.png
1000 Barrier 20 1 25 - B - 1000 Barrier 30~61 1 25 - B -


Specials

Gigantic Tager Driver
Gigantic Tager Driver
360A
BBCS Tager Buster.png
Make your opponent feels stupid for getting grabbed by this.
0, 2500 T 6 1-10 29 - T -
Wedge Catapult
Wedge Catapult
360B Grab 'em and dab 'em
0, 1200 T 30 4 30 - T -
Impact Driver
Impact Driver
360B After wedge catapault
BBCF Tager ImpactDriver.png
Basically turns the move into 360A
0, 1400 - T -
Air Gigantic Tager Driver
Air Driver
360C How does he jump up after them when this move hits?
2700 Throw 6 1-11 Until L+12 - T -
Atomic Collider
Atomic Collider
623C
BBCS Tager Collider.png
Make your opponent jump then snatch them out the air with this.
0, 2250 (1350) Unblockable 17 5-?? 19 - T -
A Sledge
A Sledgehammer
236A
BBCS Tager Sledge.png
Slap projectiles and your opponent silly with this sledge
1200 Mid 20 3 18 - B -
B Sledge
B Sledgehammer
236B
BBCS Tager Sledge.png
Good at closing the distance against zoners...sometimes
1300 Mid 35 4 20 - B - 1500 Mid 56 4 20 - B -
Hammer
Additional Attack
236A after Sledge or Voltic charge guardpoint
BBCS Tager Hammer.png
CRUSH THEIR SKULLS!
1370 High 22 6 30 - B - 1370 High 13 6 30 - B -
Gadget Finger
Gadget Finger
22D on downed opponent
BBCS Tager Finger.png
Get Fingered.
100 Unblockable 7 8-47 16 - -
Voltic Charge
Voltec Charge
214D
BBCS Tager Charge.png
Guard point the world then hammer their skulls afterward
39-113 - -
Spark Bolt
Spark Bolt
41236D / 623D
BBCP Tager SparkBolt.png
The great equaliser.
1500 All 12 Until Offscreen Total 47 - P2* -
Crimson Punisher
Crimson Punisher
63214A
BBCP Tager GrandPunish.png
Whoa! Air combo oki ender :O
800, 1500 All 15 3 13+3L - H -

Distortion Drives

Magna Tech Wheel
Magna Tech Wheel
236236B
BBCS Tager MTW.png
BBCS Tager MTW 2.png
220*19, 1800 All, High/Air 7+12 4,2*18 (15) 3 72 - B - 180*31, 1800 All, High/Air 7+12 4,2*30 (15) 3 72 - B -
Terra Break
Terra Break
MTW -> 236236B
BBCS Tager TerraBreak.png
3600 All 9+46 9 35 - B - 4200 All 9+46 9 35 - B -
Genesic Emerald Tager Buster
Genesic Emerald Tager Buster
720C
BBCS Tager GETB.png
BBCS Tager GETB2.png
4620 Throw 5+0 2-?? 41 - T - 5220 Throw 5+0 2-?? 41 - T -


Exceed Accel

Charged Lightning
ABCD during Overdrive
600, 0, 70*21, 1150 All Fast: 10
Slow: 20
3 34 - B - 600, 0, 75*30, 3300 Fast: 10
Slow: 20
3 34 - B -


Astral Heat

King of Tager
1080D
BBCS Tager Astral.png
BBCS Tager Astral2.png
BBCS Tager Astral3.png
16000 (DESTROY) Unblockable 5+16 4 76 - T -

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