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==Overview==
 
==Overview==
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''"You only got one life. Take care of it... You got that, you piece of trash?!"''
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===Backstory===
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Carmine Prime (real name unknown) is a 3rd year student of the same high school that Hyde goes to. Sadistic and maniacal to the core, Carmine possesses an immense lust for violence to the point that it has become his sole purpose in life. Despite this, Carmine actually holds an extremely low opinion of himself and has little to no sense of self-worth, referring to both himself as well as people like him as "trash of society." He has even stated that he couldn't care less if he died one day on a pile of garbage, completely forgotten to the rest of the world. Nonetheless, Carmine only wishes to do the one thing he has ever been good at and which gives him his reason to live - beating others. Carmine views the teachers at school who keep lecturing about his violent ways as a nuisance.
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After being attacked by a Void and becoming an In-Birth, Carmine decided to use his newfound EXS abilities to fulfill his one desire: to fight. Now, he roams the streets during the Hollow Night seeking his favorite opponents in battle - other In-Births.
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===Playstyle===
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Carmine is a high damage rushdown character who can deal a huge amount of damage by himself. Unlike in UNIST, his set-play and mix-up are very linear here. Playing against him can easily be bound to give you a run for your money if one isn't careful, especially with his ability to covert any hit into high damage. However, the biggest thing to look out for with Carmine is that most of his blood moves all use up HP which can lead to an instant death if the player is not careful. To play this character well, good HP management is a must.
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===Strengths/Weaknesses===
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*Has some of the highest damage outputs in the game even without assists.
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*Above average health
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*Can reverse beat which allows him to confirm most grounded hits into a full combo/blockstring.
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*Great pressure and lockdown thanks to his specials, which is also helped by his dissolves.
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*Good space control thanks to his great normals, his specials and his dissolves.
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*In particular, his forward assist is effected by his dissolves and can help augment a partner's screen control and lockdown.
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*Can set more than double dissolves in this game compared to his limit of 2 dissolves in UNI.
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*Certain commands will recover some of his lost health.
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*Has an unblockable setup which becomes confirmable with a delayed assist.
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*His special moves are at the the cost of using his own health, though they won't kill him even if his life is at 1.
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*Gaps in between his moves such as the time the hitboxes are active can easily leave him open to deft users of reversals or counter-mashing during his offense, so his frame traps must have more thought put into them.
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*Tying into the above, reckless usage of moves can easily leave him punished if not set up properly.
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*His old Force Function, "Makure!" (Twist!/Twist up!) isn't in this game, meaning you can't move already set dissolves for better positioning.
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===EXS of Lifeblood: Blood Spike===
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Carmine's ability to control/weaponize his own blood also gives him the ability to lay down Dissolves; Dissolves are pools of blood left behind by certain moves of Carmine's that will drain a portion of his own HP, but can interact with a number of his other moves for special effects that each have their own hitboxes. For example, his 236X turns an already-laid-down-dissolve into an advancing blood wheel on the ground, or his 214X shoots up another blood crystal from the pool itself. There exist moves that directly interact with dissolve pools without costing Carmine's HP, but cannot set down dissolves themselves.
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==Normal Moves==
 
==Normal Moves==
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">5A</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_5A.png |caption=
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|image2=BBTag_Carmine_5AA.png |caption2=
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|image3=BBTag_Carmine_5AAA.png |caption3=
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|image4=BBTag_Carmine_5AAAA.png |caption4="Soitsu wo yoshiagare!" (Hand that over to me!) - now with more liberal usage.
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|name=5A
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|version=5A
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=9 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-11
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|description=
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* Carmine's old 5B.
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* Jump cancellable on hit and block
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* Throw cancellable
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A very strong and versatile normal that serves as one of Carmine's primary neutral buttons. It has good range and inches him forward during the animation, making it a great combo starter. 5A is also jump cancellable on block, allowing for varied pressure options.
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}}
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|header=no
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|version=5AA
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=14 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-6
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|description=
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* Carmine's old 5BB.
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* Throw cancellable
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Combo fodder from his smart combo that takes another step forward, therefore complimenting the offensive use that 5A currently had.
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|header=no
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|version=5AAA
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=12 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-14
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|description=
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* Carmine's old 5C.
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A large blood swipe which continues the trend of being easily hit confirmable. Mostly combo filler.
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|header=no
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|version=5AAAA
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=12 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-15
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|description=
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* Carmine's original super command grab, "Give Me That!". Not a grab in this game.
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* Heals the greater of 500 HP or 33% of his missing red health. Heals 500 HP or 16% of his missing red health if he's already healed from the same combo.
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* Side swaps on hit.
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Combo ender for restoring health. Gives decent oki as IAD j.A immediately after will safejump the opponent's tech in any direction.
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It is possible to Active Switch to another character during this grab by calling an assist during the 5A string and inputting D during the startup of the hitgrab, but before it actually connects. This allows you to regain a chunk of health and switch Carmine out to allow him to regenerate even more health, while retaining okizeme options.
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">5B</font> ======
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_5B.png |caption=
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|image2=BBTag_Carmine_5BB.png |caption2=
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|name=5B
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|version=5B
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=14 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-2
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|description=
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* Carmine's original 6B, and uses up HP to set a dissolve upon hitting the opponent or the corner.
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Fast projectile that leaves a dissolve immediately upon hitting, allowing you to cancel it with 214X or 236X for combos and pressure.
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|header=no
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|version=5BB
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup= |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-3
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|description=
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* Carmine's original grounded 6B followup from UNIST only. Uses up all dissolve pools without any HP cost.
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A followup from his 5B projectile, which is primarily used for combo purposes due it being jump cancellable on hit. With dissolves on screen, this move will create additional identical spike protrusions from the ground which can create good damage if multiple hit the opponent, but they remove dissolves upon use.  }}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">5C</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_5C.png |caption= I'm gonna do this on wake up and they won't see it coming
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|name=5C
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|data=
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|damage= |guard=High
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|startup=26 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-4
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|description=
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UNI styled ground assault overhead, meaning this move is slower than some other overheads in the game, but makes up for it by being forward moving and having a big hitbox. Also ends combos
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">2A</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_2A.png |caption=
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|name=2A
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|data=
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=7 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-6
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|description=
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* Carmine's old 2B.
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* Throw cancellable
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low jab. Carmine's fastest button which is also mashable and can be used to reverse beat from other normals. Jump cancellable on block.
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}}
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}}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">2B</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_2B.png |caption=Kick them with style and high in their face.
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|name=2B
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=8 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-19
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|description=
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* Carmine's 3B.
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Anti air button and combo extender if you feel they are too high up or if you go for extensions after falling j.C. Has upper body invul.
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}}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">2C</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_2C.png |caption=Right at your feet, he says.
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|name=2C
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|damage= |guard=Low
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|startup=11 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-12
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|description=
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* Carmine's 2C. Very long-ranged sweep.
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Primary poke and is one of his most useful starters. Has nice horizontal range and even vertical range, making it usable as a combo part. Since Carmine can reverse beat, combos from this are almost guaranteed.  }}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">j.A</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_jA.png |caption= Still a nasty cross-up.
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|image2=BBTag_Carmine_jAA.png |caption2=
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|version=j.A
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=11 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Carmine's old j.C.
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Carmine's primary jump in tool and even has a crossup hitbox to boot. Has a big hitbox overall and does two hits. }}
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|header=no
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|version=j.AA
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=7 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Carmine's old j.B.
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Since this cannot be used on it's own, it is primarily used as combo fodder }}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">j.B</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_jB.png |caption=
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|image2=BBTag_Carmine_jBB.png |caption2=
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|name=j.B
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|version=j.B
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|damage=1500 |guard=
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|startup=19 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Sets a Dissolve at the cost of HP upon hitting the opponent or ground.
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* Carmine's j.6B from UNI.
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* Knocks down.
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Carmine's standard go-to button for ending air combos. You can cancel into j.236X on the way down for oki.
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|header=no
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|version=j.BB
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|damage=2200 |guard=
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|startup=15 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Uses up all dissolve pools with no HP cost.
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* Carmine's j.6B followup in midair only from UNIST
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* Important points go here
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Can be used to convert air hit into a ground combo. Example: j.A dj j.BB, falling j.A close to ground -> whatever. Otherwise, you could use j.bb to catch opponents from the ground spikes it creates if dissolves were set up.
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}}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">j.C</font> ======
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_jC.png |caption= "Kono-shinde ora!" (Why you-just die!)
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|name=j.C
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=14 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Sets two dissolves down, unlike its original version from UNI.
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* Costs twice as much health as other health-consuming moves.
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* Carmine's old 214C, which is now only a midair move with no special move properties.
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* Move puts you in advantage the closer you are to the ground. Instant air j.C leaves you a fair bit plus.
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* Combo ender, but can also be used for combo extensions when doing this in air combos on the falling part of his jump.
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This move is pretty strong when right above enemy heads as a way to bait anti airs. With an assist to help, you can cover j.C's recovery while making it confirmable. Be mindful that there is a dead zone right in the middle from wear he throws it, to the spikes created on the ground. However, an assist can clear it of this weakness. Otherwise, this move has it's uses of quickly chucking out dissolves but at a higher health cost. This move is also your other combo ender besides j.b, and you can actually still get good oki from 236x off of this.  }}
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==Universal Mechanics==
 
==Universal Mechanics==
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">Ground Throw</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_GroundThrow.png |caption=Suck it all out!
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|name=Ground Throw
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|input=5B+C
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|damage= |guard=Throw
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|startup=7 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Steals the greater of 500 HP or 33% of missing red health.
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* Causes crumple state on hit
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* Special cancellable
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Carmine's grab is a rather important tool for him to have. Compared to his base game, Carmine can confirm off of this as well as gain back a greater amount of health than he previously could. In BBTAG, where his mixup arsenal has been shortened, his grab serves as a noteworthy tool that should be feared.}}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">Pulverize</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_Pulverize.png |caption="Suritsubuse!" (Mash 'em up!) or maybe you'd go "Buchimake da!" (Throw it all out!) for emphasis.
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|name=Pulverize!
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|input=5A+D
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|damage=500*10 |guard=All
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|startup=12 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-27
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|description=
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* Carmine's original 623C.
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Carmine's reversal action lacks much vertical reach, but surely makes up for it with its horizontal distance. As the animation implies, it can also help avoid against enemy crossups. His reversal action also sees use in applying his unblockable setups, by having them block in the air after a tech, such as a 236x, and landing this move. With a good partner assist, you can expect good followups after the reset. }}
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==Skills==
 
==Skills==
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">Spin!</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_Spin.png |caption="Maware!" (Spin around!)
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|input=236A/B (Air OK)
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|name=Spin!
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|version=236A
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=34 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=+23
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|description=
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}}
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|header=no
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|version=j.236A
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=37 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Dissolves turn into buzzsaws that travel along the ground in the direction of the opponent.
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* Extremely advantageous on block.
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"Pinwheel" special. You are at massive frame advantage if the opponent blocks it, and even more so if done as a meaty as the blade will spin for a while longer if it does not immediately hit anything. Beware as there is a significant gap on startup if you have no dissolves out. With a dissolve out, the gap is too small to mash with regular attacks, but you can still get hit by reversals.
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|version=236B |header=no
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=34 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=+23
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|description=
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}}
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|header=no
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|version=j.236B
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=37 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Sets pinwheel at a further distance than A version. Otherwise identical.
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His B versions of his spin are a new asset to him in this game and are pretty useful for further ranged space control and setting far dissolves. Just be mindful of enemies who get in between the gap it creates. }}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">Launch!</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_Launch.png |caption="Tsukiagero!" (Launch through!)
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|input=214A/B/C
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|name=Launch!
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|version=A
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=18 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-1
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|description=
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}}
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|header=no
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|version=B
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=18 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-1
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|description=
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}}
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|header=no
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|version=C
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=18 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=-1
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|description=
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* Carmine's original 22X.
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* Summons an additional crystal from every dissolve.
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Not advantageous on block anymore, so mostly a combo and zoning tool. Launches on hit with low recovery, and launches higher if the crystal from a dissolve hits.
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}}
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==Extra Skills==
 
==Extra Skills==
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">Spin!</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_Spin.png |caption="Mijingiri da!" (Chop into pieces!) - his only EX Move, but one of the better ones.
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|input=236C (Air OK)
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|name=Spin!
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|version=Ground
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=19 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=+35
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|description=
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}}
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|header=no
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|version=Air
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|damage= |guard=
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|startup=22 |active= |recovery= |frameAdv=
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|description=
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* Carmine's EX 236C, which unlike the normal versions has a much smaller gap between when he throws out the projectile and the first active frame of the hitbox.
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Bigger, more advantageous, and has an extra hit on the way out, allowing it to combo even without any dissolves set.
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}}
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==Partner Skills==
 
==Partner Skills==
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">5P</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_66C.png |caption=
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|name=5P
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|input=Dash C
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=40 |active=N/A |recovery=N/A |frameAdv=+30
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|description=
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* Carmine's old dashing C
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}}
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}}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">6P</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_Spin.png |caption= Time to punish assist calls
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|name=6P
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|input=Spin!
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=57 |active=N/A |recovery=N/A |frameAdv=+37
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|description=
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* Sets new/triggers existing dissolves, like Carmine's regular 236X.
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* Still takes Carmine's life to use this assist
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Extremely strong zoning and pressure assist, especially since it acts exactly like his regular 236X, meaning that it will set new or trigger all existing dissolves then leave another dissolve, allowing you to continue to zone even at long ranges with subsequent uses of this assist. Launches grounded opponents even without dissolves, unlike the normal version.
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}}
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}}
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">4P</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_Thrust.png |caption="Buchinuke!" (Punch right through!)
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|name=4P
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|input=Thrust!
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|data=
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{{AttackData-BBTag
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|damage= |guard=All
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|startup=33 |active=N/A |recovery=N/A |frameAdv=+48
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|description=
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*Carmine's original 214X
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A double hitting back assist. Disjointed hitbox that technically counts as a projectile and is pretty good for lockdown.}}
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==Distortion Skills==
 
==Distortion Skills==
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====== <font style="visibility:hidden" size="0">Hahahaha! Be Devoured!</font> ======
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{{MoveData
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|image=BBTag_Carmine_HahahahahaBeDevoured.png |caption="Hyahahahahaha! Kuraitsukuze!" (Devour them up!)
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|input=236B+C
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|name=Hahahaha! Be Devoured!
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|data=
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* Carmine's classic Infinite Worth super.
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Latest revision as of 20:05, 10 October 2018

Carmine
BBTag Carmine Portrait.png

Health: 18,000

Jump Startup: 4F

Backdash Time 41F / Invul: 1-7F All

  • Backdash can cancel into all actions 32F onward
Movement Options
  • Double Jump, 1 Airdash, Dash Type: Run

Overview[edit]

"You only got one life. Take care of it... You got that, you piece of trash?!"

Backstory[edit]

Carmine Prime (real name unknown) is a 3rd year student of the same high school that Hyde goes to. Sadistic and maniacal to the core, Carmine possesses an immense lust for violence to the point that it has become his sole purpose in life. Despite this, Carmine actually holds an extremely low opinion of himself and has little to no sense of self-worth, referring to both himself as well as people like him as "trash of society." He has even stated that he couldn't care less if he died one day on a pile of garbage, completely forgotten to the rest of the world. Nonetheless, Carmine only wishes to do the one thing he has ever been good at and which gives him his reason to live - beating others. Carmine views the teachers at school who keep lecturing about his violent ways as a nuisance.

After being attacked by a Void and becoming an In-Birth, Carmine decided to use his newfound EXS abilities to fulfill his one desire: to fight. Now, he roams the streets during the Hollow Night seeking his favorite opponents in battle - other In-Births.

Playstyle[edit]

Carmine is a high damage rushdown character who can deal a huge amount of damage by himself. Unlike in UNIST, his set-play and mix-up are very linear here. Playing against him can easily be bound to give you a run for your money if one isn't careful, especially with his ability to covert any hit into high damage. However, the biggest thing to look out for with Carmine is that most of his blood moves all use up HP which can lead to an instant death if the player is not careful. To play this character well, good HP management is a must.

Strengths/Weaknesses[edit]

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Has some of the highest damage outputs in the game even without assists.
  • Above average health
  • Can reverse beat which allows him to confirm most grounded hits into a full combo/blockstring.
  • Great pressure and lockdown thanks to his specials, which is also helped by his dissolves.
  • Good space control thanks to his great normals, his specials and his dissolves.
  • In particular, his forward assist is effected by his dissolves and can help augment a partner's screen control and lockdown.
  • Can set more than double dissolves in this game compared to his limit of 2 dissolves in UNI.
  • Certain commands will recover some of his lost health.
  • Has an unblockable setup which becomes confirmable with a delayed assist.
  • His special moves are at the the cost of using his own health, though they won't kill him even if his life is at 1.
  • Gaps in between his moves such as the time the hitboxes are active can easily leave him open to deft users of reversals or counter-mashing during his offense, so his frame traps must have more thought put into them.
  • Tying into the above, reckless usage of moves can easily leave him punished if not set up properly.
  • His old Force Function, "Makure!" (Twist!/Twist up!) isn't in this game, meaning you can't move already set dissolves for better positioning.


EXS of Lifeblood: Blood Spike[edit]

Carmine's ability to control/weaponize his own blood also gives him the ability to lay down Dissolves; Dissolves are pools of blood left behind by certain moves of Carmine's that will drain a portion of his own HP, but can interact with a number of his other moves for special effects that each have their own hitboxes. For example, his 236X turns an already-laid-down-dissolve into an advancing blood wheel on the ground, or his 214X shoots up another blood crystal from the pool itself. There exist moves that directly interact with dissolve pools without costing Carmine's HP, but cannot set down dissolves themselves.



Normal Moves[edit]

5A[edit]
5A
BBTag Carmine 5A.png
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BBTag Carmine 5AAA.png
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"Soitsu wo yoshiagare!" (Hand that over to me!) - now with more liberal usage.
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
5A - All 9 - - -11
  • Carmine's old 5B.
  • Jump cancellable on hit and block
  • Throw cancellable

A very strong and versatile normal that serves as one of Carmine's primary neutral buttons. It has good range and inches him forward during the animation, making it a great combo starter. 5A is also jump cancellable on block, allowing for varied pressure options.

5AA - All 14 - - -6
  • Carmine's old 5BB.
  • Throw cancellable

Combo fodder from his smart combo that takes another step forward, therefore complimenting the offensive use that 5A currently had.

5AAA - All 12 - - -14
  • Carmine's old 5C.

A large blood swipe which continues the trend of being easily hit confirmable. Mostly combo filler.

5AAAA - All 12 - - -15
  • Carmine's original super command grab, "Give Me That!". Not a grab in this game.
  • Heals the greater of 500 HP or 33% of his missing red health. Heals 500 HP or 16% of his missing red health if he's already healed from the same combo.
  • Side swaps on hit.

Combo ender for restoring health. Gives decent oki as IAD j.A immediately after will safejump the opponent's tech in any direction.

It is possible to Active Switch to another character during this grab by calling an assist during the 5A string and inputting D during the startup of the hitgrab, but before it actually connects. This allows you to regain a chunk of health and switch Carmine out to allow him to regenerate even more health, while retaining okizeme options.


5B[edit]
5B
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Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
5B - All 14 - - -2
  • Carmine's original 6B, and uses up HP to set a dissolve upon hitting the opponent or the corner.

Fast projectile that leaves a dissolve immediately upon hitting, allowing you to cancel it with 214X or 236X for combos and pressure.

5BB - All - - - -3
  • Carmine's original grounded 6B followup from UNIST only. Uses up all dissolve pools without any HP cost.

A followup from his 5B projectile, which is primarily used for combo purposes due it being jump cancellable on hit. With dissolves on screen, this move will create additional identical spike protrusions from the ground which can create good damage if multiple hit the opponent, but they remove dissolves upon use.


5C[edit]
5C
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I'm gonna do this on wake up and they won't see it coming
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- High 26 - - -4

UNI styled ground assault overhead, meaning this move is slower than some other overheads in the game, but makes up for it by being forward moving and having a big hitbox. Also ends combos


2A[edit]
2A
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Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- All 7 - - -6
  • Carmine's old 2B.
  • Throw cancellable

low jab. Carmine's fastest button which is also mashable and can be used to reverse beat from other normals. Jump cancellable on block.


2B[edit]
2B
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Kick them with style and high in their face.
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- - 8 - - -19
  • Carmine's 3B.

Anti air button and combo extender if you feel they are too high up or if you go for extensions after falling j.C. Has upper body invul.


2C[edit]
2C
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Right at your feet, he says.
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- Low 11 - - -12
  • Carmine's 2C. Very long-ranged sweep.

Primary poke and is one of his most useful starters. Has nice horizontal range and even vertical range, making it usable as a combo part. Since Carmine can reverse beat, combos from this are almost guaranteed.


j.A[edit]
j.A
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Still a nasty cross-up.
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Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
j.A - - 11 - - -
  • Carmine's old j.C.

Carmine's primary jump in tool and even has a crossup hitbox to boot. Has a big hitbox overall and does two hits.

j.AA - - 7 - - -
  • Carmine's old j.B.

Since this cannot be used on it's own, it is primarily used as combo fodder


j.B[edit]
j.B
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Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
j.B 1500 - 19 - - -
  • Sets a Dissolve at the cost of HP upon hitting the opponent or ground.
  • Carmine's j.6B from UNI.
  • Knocks down.

Carmine's standard go-to button for ending air combos. You can cancel into j.236X on the way down for oki.

j.BB 2200 - 15 - - -
  • Uses up all dissolve pools with no HP cost.
  • Carmine's j.6B followup in midair only from UNIST
  • Important points go here

Can be used to convert air hit into a ground combo. Example: j.A dj j.BB, falling j.A close to ground -> whatever. Otherwise, you could use j.bb to catch opponents from the ground spikes it creates if dissolves were set up.


j.C[edit]
j.C
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"Kono-shinde ora!" (Why you-just die!)
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- - 14 - - -
  • Sets two dissolves down, unlike its original version from UNI.
  • Costs twice as much health as other health-consuming moves.
  • Carmine's old 214C, which is now only a midair move with no special move properties.
  • Move puts you in advantage the closer you are to the ground. Instant air j.C leaves you a fair bit plus.
  • Combo ender, but can also be used for combo extensions when doing this in air combos on the falling part of his jump.

This move is pretty strong when right above enemy heads as a way to bait anti airs. With an assist to help, you can cover j.C's recovery while making it confirmable. Be mindful that there is a dead zone right in the middle from wear he throws it, to the spikes created on the ground. However, an assist can clear it of this weakness. Otherwise, this move has it's uses of quickly chucking out dissolves but at a higher health cost. This move is also your other combo ender besides j.b, and you can actually still get good oki from 236x off of this.



Universal Mechanics[edit]

Ground Throw[edit]
Ground Throw
5B+C
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Suck it all out!
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- Throw 7 - - -
  • Steals the greater of 500 HP or 33% of missing red health.
  • Causes crumple state on hit
  • Special cancellable

Carmine's grab is a rather important tool for him to have. Compared to his base game, Carmine can confirm off of this as well as gain back a greater amount of health than he previously could. In BBTAG, where his mixup arsenal has been shortened, his grab serves as a noteworthy tool that should be feared.


Pulverize[edit]
Pulverize!
5A+D
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"Suritsubuse!" (Mash 'em up!) or maybe you'd go "Buchimake da!" (Throw it all out!) for emphasis.
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
500*10 All 12 - - -27
  • Carmine's original 623C.

Carmine's reversal action lacks much vertical reach, but surely makes up for it with its horizontal distance. As the animation implies, it can also help avoid against enemy crossups. His reversal action also sees use in applying his unblockable setups, by having them block in the air after a tech, such as a 236x, and landing this move. With a good partner assist, you can expect good followups after the reset.



Skills[edit]

Spin![edit]
Spin!
236A/B (Air OK)
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"Maware!" (Spin around!)
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
236A - - 34 - - +23
j.236A - - 37 - - -
  • Dissolves turn into buzzsaws that travel along the ground in the direction of the opponent.
  • Extremely advantageous on block.

"Pinwheel" special. You are at massive frame advantage if the opponent blocks it, and even more so if done as a meaty as the blade will spin for a while longer if it does not immediately hit anything. Beware as there is a significant gap on startup if you have no dissolves out. With a dissolve out, the gap is too small to mash with regular attacks, but you can still get hit by reversals.

236B - - 34 - - +23
j.236B - - 37 - - -
  • Sets pinwheel at a further distance than A version. Otherwise identical.

His B versions of his spin are a new asset to him in this game and are pretty useful for further ranged space control and setting far dissolves. Just be mindful of enemies who get in between the gap it creates.


Launch![edit]
Launch!
214A/B/C
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"Tsukiagero!" (Launch through!)
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
A - - 18 - - -1
B - - 18 - - -1
C - - 18 - - -1
  • Carmine's original 22X.
  • Summons an additional crystal from every dissolve.

Not advantageous on block anymore, so mostly a combo and zoning tool. Launches on hit with low recovery, and launches higher if the crystal from a dissolve hits.



Extra Skills[edit]

Spin![edit]
Spin!
236C (Air OK)
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"Mijingiri da!" (Chop into pieces!) - his only EX Move, but one of the better ones.
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
Ground - - 19 - - +35
Air - - 22 - - -
  • Carmine's EX 236C, which unlike the normal versions has a much smaller gap between when he throws out the projectile and the first active frame of the hitbox.

Bigger, more advantageous, and has an extra hit on the way out, allowing it to combo even without any dissolves set.



Partner Skills[edit]

5P[edit]
5P
Dash C
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Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- All 40 N/A N/A +30
  • Carmine's old dashing C


6P[edit]
6P
Spin!
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Time to punish assist calls
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- All 57 N/A N/A +37
  • Sets new/triggers existing dissolves, like Carmine's regular 236X.
  • Still takes Carmine's life to use this assist

Extremely strong zoning and pressure assist, especially since it acts exactly like his regular 236X, meaning that it will set new or trigger all existing dissolves then leave another dissolve, allowing you to continue to zone even at long ranges with subsequent uses of this assist. Launches grounded opponents even without dissolves, unlike the normal version.


4P[edit]
4P
Thrust!
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"Buchinuke!" (Punch right through!)
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- All 33 N/A N/A +48
  • Carmine's original 214X

A double hitting back assist. Disjointed hitbox that technically counts as a projectile and is pretty good for lockdown.



Distortion Skills[edit]

Hahahaha! Be Devoured![edit]
Hahahaha! Be Devoured!
236B+C
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"Hyahahahahaha! Kuraitsukuze!" (Devour them up!)
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- - 4+8 - - -53
  • Carmine's classic Infinite Worth super.

Is somewhat worse than in his home game, as the extra animation on hit only occurs if struck by the crystals around his feet (outside Resonance Blaze). Good combo ender besides.


No Escape...! Be Devoured![edit]
No Escape...!
214B+C
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Welcome to the Red House. "Mou nigasane...!" (Soon you can't run...!)
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- - 12+11 - - -37
  • Carmine's original 22C via the EX version, which freezes the opponent in a blood crystal.
  • Tracks opponent's position.

Freezes opponent in place for a very long time or until hit. Can be used as a fullscreen punish or combo ender and allows you to do basically anything you want on hit due to the ridiculously long stun. Allows free tag-outs.



Astral Heat[edit]

You Shit! This is the END!
222B+C
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"KUSO GA! KORE DE SHIMAI DA!!"
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Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv.
- - - - - -
  • Carmine's original IWEXS as an Astral.
  • Important points go here

Detailed description of the usefulness of the move go here




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