BBTag/Jin Kisaragi/Frame Data

Overview

Combos

Strategy/Counter Strategy

Full Frame Data

System Data

Health	17,000
Prejump	4F
Backdash	22F (1-7F Inv All)

Normal Moves

Version	Damage	CancelWhat this attack can cancel into. Any other cases will be listed in its respective notes. C - self cancellable S - special/distortion cancellable J - jump cancellable P - partner cancellable DD - distortion cancellable only (X) - X cancellable on hit only	P1Proration value that is applied only when the corresponding move is used as a starter. Click the link for the full article.	P2Proration value that is applied to the combo proration value when the corresponding move is used. Click the link for the full article.	AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes.	GuardHow this attack can be guarded	StartupNumber of frames to reach the first active frame (includes the first active frame).	ActiveNumber of active frames in this attack values in () are for gaps betwen hits of an attack. Occurs after Startup.	RecoveryHow long this attack is in a recovery state before returning to neutral.	Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This frame advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent.	LevelAttack Level determines how much hitstun, blockstun, hitstop, etc. the attack inflicts.	BlockstunWhen blocked, how long the opponent is struck in a blocking animation. Values shown here are for ground blocking.	HitstunWhen hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience.	UntechWhen hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	Hitstun CHWhen Counter Hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience	Untech CHWhen Counter Hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	BlockstopWhen an opponent blocks the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of blockstop.	HitstopWhen an opponent gets hit by the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of hitstop. If numbers are in the format +Y, that means use the X number from blockstop.	CHstopWhen an opponent gets Counter Hit the attack, how much additional hitstop the opponent experiences.	Inv.Attribute and Hitbox Invincibility information.	HitboxHitbox link for this move
4A	1000	CSTJP	100	70	B	All	6	3	11	-2	1	11	12	12	16	23	9	+0	+0	-	-
5A	800*2	CSTP	100	80 (once)	B	All	7	2(4)1	19	-3	3	16	17	17	22	31	11	+0	+2	-	-
5AA	1700	CSTP	100	85	B	All	15	6	30	-12	4	18	19	26	24	41	12/+5	+5	+5	-	-
5AAA	650*4	SP	100	85 (once)	B	All	8	2(3)2(3)2(3)2	28	-4	3	16	17*3, Crumple 29	17*3, 40	Launch*3, Crumple 58	31*3, 54	0/+9	+0	+2	-	-
5AAAA	500, 1700	P	100	100, 85	B	All	17	10	60	-51	4	18	Crumple 50	40	Crumple 100	55	0	+0	+5	-	-
2A	1000	CSTP	90	75	F	Low	9	2	15	-3	2	13	14	14	18	26	10	+0	+1	-	-
5B	1500	CSJP	100	80	B	All	10	4	19	-6	3	16	17	17	22	31	11	+0	+2	-	-
5BB	1700	CSP	100	85	B	All	15	8	15	-4	4	18	19	20	24	35	12	+0	+5	-	-
5BBB	1700	CS(J)P	100	75	B	All	15	3	31	-15	4	18	Launch	28	Launch	43	12	+0	+5	-	-
2B	1700	CSJP	90	85	B	All	14	3	31	-15	4	18	19	24	24	39	12	+0	+5	8-16 H	-
	CH state 1f-16f
5C	800+	-	100	100	B	High	22	3	24	-10	3	16	-	17 + Down 23	-	31 + Down 23	11	+0	+2	-	-
2C	1700	SP	90	85	F	Low	13	4	28	-13	4	18	Launch	26	Launch	41	12	+0	+5	-	-
j.A	1500	S(J)P	80	80	H	High	9	9	28	-	3	16	17	17	22	31	11	+0	+2	-	-
j.B (j.AA)	1700	SJP	80	85	H	High	10	6	20	-	4	18	19	19	24	34	12	+0	+5	-	-
j.2B (j.BB)	1700	SJP	80	85	H	High	13	5	24	-	4	18	19	19	24	34	12	+0	+5	-	-
j.C	2000	SP	80	90	H	All	14	3	29+6L	-	5	20	Launch	28	Launch	44	13	+0	+8	-	-

Universal Mechanics

Version	Damage	CancelWhat this attack can cancel into. Any other cases will be listed in its respective notes. C - self cancellable S - special/distortion cancellable J - jump cancellable P - partner cancellable DD - distortion cancellable only (X) - X cancellable on hit only	P1Proration value that is applied only when the corresponding move is used as a starter. Click the link for the full article.	P2Proration value that is applied to the combo proration value when the corresponding move is used. Click the link for the full article.	AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes.	GuardHow this attack can be guarded	StartupNumber of frames to reach the first active frame (includes the first active frame).	ActiveNumber of active frames in this attack values in () are for gaps betwen hits of an attack. Occurs after Startup.	RecoveryHow long this attack is in a recovery state before returning to neutral.	Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This frame advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent.	LevelAttack Level determines how much hitstun, blockstun, hitstop, etc. the attack inflicts.	BlockstunWhen blocked, how long the opponent is struck in a blocking animation. Values shown here are for ground blocking.	HitstunWhen hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience.	UntechWhen hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	Hitstun CHWhen Counter Hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience	Untech CHWhen Counter Hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	BlockstopWhen an opponent blocks the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of blockstop.	HitstopWhen an opponent gets hit by the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of hitstop. If numbers are in the format +Y, that means use the X number from blockstop.	CHstopWhen an opponent gets Counter Hit the attack, how much additional hitstop the opponent experiences.	Inv.Attribute and Hitbox Invincibility information.	HitboxHitbox link for this move
Forward Throw	0*2, 2000	S	100	50 (Once)	T	Throw	7~30	3	23	-	0*2, 4	-	Crumple 28, Launch	19, 40	-	-	-	0*2, 12	+0	-	-
Back Throw	0, 2000	S	100	50 (Once)	T	Throw	7~30	3	23	-	0, 4	-	Launch	40	-	-	-	0, 12	+0	-	-
Hirensou Reversal Action	2000, 1000	-	80	60	B	Air Unblockable	13	3(21~76)1	48	-30	4	18	Launch	55, 55 + Down 23	Launch	70, 70 + Down 23	1, 20	+0	+0, +5	1~15 All	-

Skills

Version	Damage	CancelWhat this attack can cancel into. Any other cases will be listed in its respective notes. C - self cancellable S - special/distortion cancellable J - jump cancellable P - partner cancellable DD - distortion cancellable only (X) - X cancellable on hit only	P1Proration value that is applied only when the corresponding move is used as a starter. Click the link for the full article.	P2Proration value that is applied to the combo proration value when the corresponding move is used. Click the link for the full article.	AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes.	GuardHow this attack can be guarded	StartupNumber of frames to reach the first active frame (includes the first active frame).	ActiveNumber of active frames in this attack values in () are for gaps betwen hits of an attack. Occurs after Startup.	RecoveryHow long this attack is in a recovery state before returning to neutral.	Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This frame advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent.	LevelAttack Level determines how much hitstun, blockstun, hitstop, etc. the attack inflicts.	BlockstunWhen blocked, how long the opponent is struck in a blocking animation. Values shown here are for ground blocking.	HitstunWhen hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience.	UntechWhen hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	Hitstun CHWhen Counter Hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience	Untech CHWhen Counter Hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	BlockstopWhen an opponent blocks the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of blockstop.	HitstopWhen an opponent gets hit by the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of hitstop. If numbers are in the format +Y, that means use the X number from blockstop.	CHstopWhen an opponent gets Counter Hit the attack, how much additional hitstop the opponent experiences.	Inv.Attribute and Hitbox Invincibility information.	HitboxHitbox link for this move
Hishouken 236A	1500	P	80	80	P1	All	13	-	Total: 50	-13	3	16	17	17	22	31	0/+8	+8	+10	-	-
Aerial Hishouken j.236A	1500	P	80	80	P1	All	20	-	Total: 44+11L	-	3	16	17	17	22	31	0/+8	+8	+10	-	-
Hishougeki 236B	1000*3	P	80	80 (Once)	P1	All	44	-	Total: 72	+18	3	16	17	36	22	50	0/+8	+8	+10	-	-
Aerial Hishougeki j.236B	1000*3	P	80	80 (Once)	P1	All	24	-	Total: 72	-	3	16	17	36	22	50	0/+8	+8	+10	-	-
Musou Senshouzan 214A	1500	P	80	80	F	Low	17	8	14+6L	-4	3	16	Launch	26	Launch	40	11	+0	+2	-	-
	Jin immediately enters recovery on hit/block
Follow-up Attack Musou Senshouzan > A/B/C	1500	P	80	80	H	All	14	4	6+20L	-13	3	16	Launch	30 + Down 23	Launch	44 + Down 23	8	+0	+2	-	-
Musou Senshouzan 214B	1600*2	P	80	80	F, B	Low	17	10 [(14)4]	19+7L [6+20L]	-13	3	16	Launch	26, 30 + Down 23	Launch	40, 44 + Down 23	11, 8	+0	+2	-	-
	Jin performs followup attack (values in [] on hit/block
Hizansen j.214A	1800	P	80	80	H	All	13	3	37+7L	-	3	16	Launch	36 + Down 23	Launch	50 + Down 23	11	+0	+2	-	-
Hizangeki j.214B	1000, 1800	P	80	85 (Once)	H	All, High	15	1(9)3	37+7L	-	4	18	19, Launch	80, 36 + Down 23	24, Launch	95, 51 + Down 23	6, 12	+0	+5	-	-

Extra Skills

• All Extra Skills have the following properties unless otherwise stated:
  • Cost 1 Skill Gauge on 4F
  • Skill Gauge Cooldown 180F (starting on 5F)

Version	Damage	CancelWhat this attack can cancel into. Any other cases will be listed in its respective notes. C - self cancellable S - special/distortion cancellable J - jump cancellable P - partner cancellable DD - distortion cancellable only (X) - X cancellable on hit only	P1Proration value that is applied only when the corresponding move is used as a starter. Click the link for the full article.	P2Proration value that is applied to the combo proration value when the corresponding move is used. Click the link for the full article.	AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes.	GuardHow this attack can be guarded	StartupNumber of frames to reach the first active frame (includes the first active frame).	ActiveNumber of active frames in this attack values in () are for gaps betwen hits of an attack. Occurs after Startup.	RecoveryHow long this attack is in a recovery state before returning to neutral.	Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This frame advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent.	LevelAttack Level determines how much hitstun, blockstun, hitstop, etc. the attack inflicts.	BlockstunWhen blocked, how long the opponent is struck in a blocking animation. Values shown here are for ground blocking.	HitstunWhen hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience.	UntechWhen hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	Hitstun CHWhen Counter Hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience	Untech CHWhen Counter Hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	BlockstopWhen an opponent blocks the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of blockstop.	HitstopWhen an opponent gets hit by the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of hitstop. If numbers are in the format +Y, that means use the X number from blockstop.	CHstopWhen an opponent gets Counter Hit the attack, how much additional hitstop the opponent experiences.	Inv.Attribute and Hitbox Invincibility information.	HitboxHitbox link for this move
Hishousetsu 236C	1000*3	P	80	80 (Once)	P1	All	27	169	Total: 52	+36	3	16	Launch	36	Launch	50	0/+11	+11	+13	-	-
Aerial Hishousetsu j.236C	1000*3	P	80	80 (Once)	P1	All	24	169	Total: 41+9L	-	3	16	Launch	36	Launch	50	0/+11	+11	+13	-	-
Musou Tousshugeki 214C	1700	P	80	70	F	Low	17	12	14+6L	-2	4	18	Launch	25	Launch	40	12	+0	+5	-	-
	Jin immediately enters recovery on hit/block
Follow-up Attack Musou Tousshugeki > A/B/C	2000	P	80	90	B	All	14	3	5+11L	-2	5	20	Launch	50 + WBounce + Slide 15	Launch	66 + WBounce + Slide 15	13	+0	+8	-	-
Hizangeki j.214C	1000, 2000	P	80	85 (Once)	H	All, High	9	1(7)3	22+5L	-	4	18	19, Launch	80, 42 + Down 27	24, Launch	95, 57 + Down 27	6, 12	+0	+5	-	-

Partner Skills

• Startup includes the 18F needed to come onscreen. The character is invincible 1-18F.
• During Cross Combo, startup is reduced by 18F and this invincibility is removed.

Version	Damage	CancelWhat this attack can cancel into. Any other cases will be listed in its respective notes. C - self cancellable S - special/distortion cancellable J - jump cancellable P - partner cancellable DD - distortion cancellable only (X) - X cancellable on hit only	P1Proration value that is applied only when the corresponding move is used as a starter. Click the link for the full article.	P2Proration value that is applied to the combo proration value when the corresponding move is used. Click the link for the full article.	AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes.	GuardHow this attack can be guarded	StartupNumber of frames to reach the first active frame (includes the first active frame).	ActiveNumber of active frames in this attack values in () are for gaps betwen hits of an attack. Occurs after Startup.	RecoveryHow long this attack is in a recovery state before returning to neutral.	Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This frame advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent.	LevelAttack Level determines how much hitstun, blockstun, hitstop, etc. the attack inflicts.	BlockstunWhen blocked, how long the opponent is struck in a blocking animation. Values shown here are for ground blocking.	HitstunWhen hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience.	UntechWhen hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	Hitstun CHWhen Counter Hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience	Untech CHWhen Counter Hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	BlockstopWhen an opponent blocks the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of blockstop.	HitstopWhen an opponent gets hit by the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of hitstop. If numbers are in the format +Y, that means use the X number from blockstop.	CHstopWhen an opponent gets Counter Hit the attack, how much additional hitstop the opponent experiences.	Inv.Attribute and Hitbox Invincibility information.	HitboxHitbox link for this move
5P Musou Senshouzan	1500*2	Change	70	80	B, H	All	(18)+16	12 [(13)4]	27 [4+20L]	-22	3	16	Launch	26, 30 + Down 23	-	-	11, 8	+0	-	-	-
6P Hishougeki	1200*3	Change	70	80 (Once)	P	All	(18)+44	-	Total: (18)+72	+14	3	16	Launch	36	-	-	0/+8	+8	-	-	-
4P Fubuki	1700	Change	70	85	B	All	(18)+10	3	38	-22	4	18	Launch	60	-	-	16	+0	-	-	-

Distortion Skills

• All Distortion Skills have the following properties unless otherwise stated:
  • Cost 2 Skill Gauge at the beginning of superflash
  • Skill Gauge Cooldown 180F (starts frame after superflash starts)

Version	Damage	CancelWhat this attack can cancel into. Any other cases will be listed in its respective notes. C - self cancellable S - special/distortion cancellable J - jump cancellable P - partner cancellable DD - distortion cancellable only (X) - X cancellable on hit only	P1Proration value that is applied only when the corresponding move is used as a starter. Click the link for the full article.	P2Proration value that is applied to the combo proration value when the corresponding move is used. Click the link for the full article.	AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes.	GuardHow this attack can be guarded	StartupNumber of frames to reach the first active frame (includes the first active frame).	ActiveNumber of active frames in this attack values in () are for gaps betwen hits of an attack. Occurs after Startup.	RecoveryHow long this attack is in a recovery state before returning to neutral.	Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This frame advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent.	LevelAttack Level determines how much hitstun, blockstun, hitstop, etc. the attack inflicts.	BlockstunWhen blocked, how long the opponent is struck in a blocking animation. Values shown here are for ground blocking.	HitstunWhen hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience.	UntechWhen hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	Hitstun CHWhen Counter Hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience	Untech CHWhen Counter Hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	BlockstopWhen an opponent blocks the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of blockstop.	HitstopWhen an opponent gets hit by the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of hitstop. If numbers are in the format +Y, that means use the X number from blockstop.	CHstopWhen an opponent gets Counter Hit the attack, how much additional hitstop the opponent experiences.	Inv.Attribute and Hitbox Invincibility information.	HitboxHitbox link for this move
Touga Hyojin 236B+C	1650*N [1650*N, 500*3, 1000]	-	80	60 (Once)	P2	All	1+(30 Flash)+8	Until Hit	Total: 44	-13~+3	4	18	Crumple 30 [Crumple 53 + Down 15]	28 + Slide 20	Crumple 35 [Crumple 53 + Down 15]	33 + Slide 20	0	+0	+5	1-8 All	-
	Values in [] are for Enhanced version Minimum Damage:: 231*N [231*N, 100*3, 10] 22F to reach fullscreen
Hiyoku Getsumei 214B+C	1700, 300*14, 4100 [1700, 300*22, 3600]	-	80	97	P2	All	5+(45 + Flash)+5	Until Hit	Total: 5+60	-37	4	18	Launch	80 + WBounce	Launch	95 + Wbounce	0	0/+30, 0*15 [*23]	+30, +0*15 [*23]	1-11 All	-
	Values in [] are for Enhanced version Minimum Damage 255, 45*14, 1148 (2033) [255, 45*22, 1008 (2253)]
Aerial Hiyoku Getsumei j.214B+C	1700, 300*14, 4100 [1700, 300*22, 3600]	-	80	97	P2	All	5+5	Until Hit	Total: 5+Until L+16 [Total: 5+Until L+11]	-	4	18	Launch	80	Launch	95	0	0/+30, 0*15 [*23]	+30, +0*15 [*23]	1-13 All	-
	Values in [] are for Enhanced version Minimum Damage 255, 45*14, 1148 (2033) [255, 45*22, 1008 (2253)]
Yukikaze Distortion Skill Duo	500, 1500 [200*5,1500]	-	100	100	B	All	1+(79 Flash)+1	15	77	-73	4	18	19 [*5], Crumple 53	80 [*5], 19	-	-	12	+0	+5	1-16 All	-
	Values in [] are for Enhanced version Minimum Damage: 2000 [2500]

Astral Heat

Version	Damage	CancelWhat this attack can cancel into. Any other cases will be listed in its respective notes. C - self cancellable S - special/distortion cancellable J - jump cancellable P - partner cancellable DD - distortion cancellable only (X) - X cancellable on hit only	P1Proration value that is applied only when the corresponding move is used as a starter. Click the link for the full article.	P2Proration value that is applied to the combo proration value when the corresponding move is used. Click the link for the full article.	AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes.	GuardHow this attack can be guarded	StartupNumber of frames to reach the first active frame (includes the first active frame).	ActiveNumber of active frames in this attack values in () are for gaps betwen hits of an attack. Occurs after Startup.	RecoveryHow long this attack is in a recovery state before returning to neutral.	Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This frame advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent.	LevelAttack Level determines how much hitstun, blockstun, hitstop, etc. the attack inflicts.	BlockstunWhen blocked, how long the opponent is struck in a blocking animation. Values shown here are for ground blocking.	HitstunWhen hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience.	UntechWhen hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	Hitstun CHWhen Counter Hitting a grounded opponent, how much hitstun they experience	Untech CHWhen Counter Hitting an airborne opponent, how long they can't air tech.	BlockstopWhen an opponent blocks the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of blockstop.	HitstopWhen an opponent gets hit by the attack, how long both characters 'freeze' in place. If numbers are in the format X/+Y, that means the defender experences Y additional frames of hitstop. If numbers are in the format +Y, that means use the X number from blockstop.	CHstopWhen an opponent gets Counter Hit the attack, how much additional hitstop the opponent experiences.	Inv.Attribute and Hitbox Invincibility information.	HitboxHitbox link for this move
Rengoku Hyouya 222B+C	0, 27315	-	-	-	F	Low	6+(71 Flash)+14	10	95	-86	4	18	-	-	-	-	0	-	-	1-19 All	-

Revolver Action Table

Ground Revolver Action Table

	A	B	C	Cancel
4A[3]	4A[+], 5A, 2A	5B, 2B	5C, 2C	Throw, Jump, Special, Super
5A[3*]	5AA, 2A	5B, 2B	5C, 2C	Throw, Jump[-], Special, Super
5AA	5AAA	5B, 2B	5C, 2C	Throw, Special, Super
5AAA	5AAAA	-	-	Special (4th hit), Super (4th hit)
5AAAA	-	-	-	-
2A[3*]	5A	5B, 2B	5C, 2C	Throw, Special, Super
5B[1]	-	5BB, 2B	5C, 2C	Jump, Special, Super
5BB	-	5BBB, 2B	5C, 2C	Special, Super
5BBB	-	2B	5C, 2C	Jump, Special, Super
2B[1]	-	5B	5C, 2C	Jump, Special, Super
5C	-	-	-	-
2C	-	-	-	Special, Super

Air Revolver Action Table

	A	B	C	Cancel
j.A	j.AA	j.B	j.C	Special, Super
j.B	-	j.BB	j.C	Jump, Special, Super
j.AA and j.BB	-	-	j.C	Jump, Special, Super
j.C	-	-	-	Special, Super

X = X is available on hit or block

X^[-] = X is available only on hit

X^[+] = X is available on whiff

X^[#] = X can be used only # times per string

• 5A and 2A can be used a combined total of 3 times per string

Sources

Damage/proration/cancel table by Hima696

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