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Waldstein
BBTag Waldstein Portrait.png
Movement Options
  • Double Jump, 1 Airdash
Playstyle
Mid-range, Grappler, Neutral-focused
Team role
Support, Anchor

Overview

"Battles are cruel...? The words of pansies with no strength. You can only curse your own weakness!"

Backstory

Waldstein is an old man who lives eternally within a body that is part man, part Void, and whose past is mostly a mystery. What is known is that hundreds of years ago, Waldstein was originally a high ranking member of the Licht Kreiss organization. After a fateful battle with Kuon where he ends up barely saving Waldstein from turning into a void, Waldstein leaves the Licht Kreiss organization and joins the Night Blade after being moved by Kuon's honorable deed. Waldstein served Night Blade for many years, operating alongside Night Blade's "Princess," until its eventual ruin. Now, Waldstein still serves Linne in her quest to search for a means to end her immortal life, both as her right-hand man and as her fierce protector.

Having been in countless battles with his custom made claws, Waldstein enjoys fighting skilled opponents and is always prepared to accept a challenge. Despite this, he still contains a small side to him that is softer and compassionate, especially towards Linne. Waldstein is extremely loyal to her, following her orders without question whilst constantly worrying about her well-being.

On this particular Hollow Night, Waldstein receives a message from the Amnesia organization, "The Hollow Night is upon us, let us settle this." To protect his master from an imminent attack by Amnesia, he sets out in search of the organization's headquarters alone.

Playstyle

Strengths/Weaknesses

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Extremely long-range normals that have faster than average startup for their size.
  • Despite being a grappler, Wald can still find an opening from many different positions thanks to his variety of normals.
  • Several lengthy disjointed command grabs.
  • 20k health; highest tier of health in the game
  • Although his 5C is fairly slow, it covers a massive amount of range as he lunges towards you.
  • Solid array of assists that have huge hitboxes and leave you in hefty multihit blockstun.
  • Has a menacing frame 0 command grab distortion with large horizontal range.
  • Wald's other 236B+C distortion puts you directly in the corner.
  • Thanks to the game mechanics, Wald can defend himself and cover his slow approaches properly with Reject Guard and good assists.
  • Has some of the lowest ground mobility in the game.
  • His Reversal Action is poor: despite having plenty of invulnerability, it is slow and only hits opponents in front of him on the ground.
  • No projectile (Although, the correct assist can make up for this if/when Wald's partner is available.)
  • While deceptively smaller than his visuals suggest, Waldstein still has a massive hurtbox compared to most of the cast which makes him vulnerable to ambiguous crossovers and instant overheads as well as character specific combos.
  • Longer than average startup on normals often leaves Waldstein vulnerable in pressure situations

EXS of Mountainous Strength: Hecatoncheir

Waldstein's EXS grants him enormous physical strength, resistance, and vigor. In game play, his EXS allows his non-command-grab claw attacks to delete a single hit of any projectiles they strike.

Canceling Slashes

  • All normals except 2A and j.C
  • Eisen Naegel
  • Wirbelwind
  • Felsen Vulf



Normal Moves

5A
5A
BBTag Waldstein 5A.png
BBTag Waldstein 5AA.png
BBTag Waldstein 5AAA.png
BBTag Waldstein Verderben.png
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5A


5A
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1500 All 11 3 25 -11 B - CSTJP 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
80 3 16 17 17 22 31 11 +0 +2
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein 5A.png
BBTAG Waldstein 5A Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Jump cancelable both on hit and block.

With its massive range, this is Wald's primary poke in footsies in most situations.

5AA


5AA
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1500 All 10 2 23 -8 B - CST(J)P 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
80 3 16 17 21 22 35 11 +0 +2
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein 5AA.png
BBTAG Waldstein 5AA Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Jump cancelable on hit.
5AAA


5AAA
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1000, 2500 All 11 11 8 -2 [+1] B - CS [CSP] 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
70, 85 3, 4 16 Launch Restand [21 + Down 23] - - 7 +0 +2
Cuts projectiles
Second hit only occurs if first hit hits and is close enough
Values in [] is if first hit doesn't catch
Waldstein is +7 on restand
BBTag Waldstein 5AAA.png
BBTAG Waldstein 5AAA Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Restands opponent on hit if close enough.
  • Shock wave is jump cancelable on hit.
  • Shock wave knocks down.

Strong combo ender as it restands the opponent right in front of you with frame advantage (+8?) close enough to command throw or 2A.

5AAAA


5AAAA
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
2000 All 19 4 24 -9 B - P 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 Launch 60 Launch 75 12 +0 +5
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein Verderben.png
BBTAG Waldstein 5AAAA1 Hitbox.pngBBTAG Waldstein 5AAAA2 Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Knocks down on hit.

This is not a move you are going to be using. Ever.

5B
5B
BBTag Waldstein 5B.png
BBTag Waldstein 5BB.png
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5B


5B
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1700 All 15 3 19 -3 B - CS(J)P 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 19 24 24 39 12 +0 +5
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein 5B.png
BBTAG Waldstein 5B Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Jump cancelable on hit.

Generally your poke with the most well rounded coverage. Massive horizontal and vertical range.

5BB


5BB
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1000, 0, 2500 [1000, 2000] All 11 4(18)8 13 0 B - CS(J)P 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
80 3, 5 16, 20 Launch 30, 44 + WBounce 20 [30, 40 + WBounce] Launch 44, 60 + WBounce 20 [44, 56 + WBounce] 11, 13 0×2, 13/-11 [0, 13/] +0, -11 [+8]
Cuts projectiles
Waldstein performs a punch instead of a hitgrab if first hit doesn't catch
Values in [] is if first hit doesn't catch
BBTag Waldstein 5BB.png
BBTAG Waldstein 5BB1 Hitbox.pngBBTAG Waldstein 5BB2 Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • If close enough, grabs and wallbounces opponent off the wall.
  • If too far or too high, will punch and wallbounce opponent, but they will not bounce as far.
  • Jump cancelable on hit.

Waldstein's main combo tool on the ground. The wallbounce from the throw version of this move can combo into basically anything, including a 2C link to reset your gatlings. Common followups are 2BB, 5AAA, 2C, or j.214B.

Keep in mind that the punch followup from this can be interrupted by reversals after an opponent blocks the first hit. However you can reverse beat into 2A to cancel the punch safely

5C
5C
BBTag Waldstein 5C.png
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5C
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
800+ High 26 3 18 -4 H - - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100 3 16 - 17 + Down 23 - 31 + Down 23 11 +0 +2
BBTag Waldstein 5C.png
BBTAG Waldstein 5C Hitbox.png
  • Universal overhead

Wald's assault-style overhead. Fairly slow and reactable, but also the longest 5C in the game. It also makes Waldstein as one of the two UNI characters to have completely different 5C move (in this case, Assault j.B), unlike other UNI characters who instead reused some used jump attacks for 5C instead of unused ones.

Courtesy of Waldstein's extremely low walkspeed, this is sometimes Waldstein's most consistent reaction punish to certain blocked Distortion moves. A decent move also to counter other low pokes and ground level projectiles due to the hopping animation, and also an option to reliably solo combo from maximum range counterhit 5B.

2A
2A
BBTag Waldstein 2A.png
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2A
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1000 Low 8 2 14 -2 F - CSTJP 90
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
75 2 13 14 14 18 26 10 +0 +1
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein 2A.png
BBTAG Waldstein 2A Hitbox.png

Wald's fastest normal, it serves as one of his best combo starters (if you can get close enough to use it as Wald).

2B
2B
BBTag Waldstein 2B.png
BBTag Waldstein 2BB.png
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2B


2B
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1700 All 14 2 30 -13 B 6~15 H CS(J)P 90
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
75 4 18 Launch 24 Launch 39 12 +0 +5
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein 2B.png
Why did you jump
BBTAG Waldstein 2B Hitbox.png
  • Launches on hit
  • Head invulnerable

Wald's go-to AA and launcher. Beware as the head invul starts up fairly late.

2BB


2BB
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 1000, 0, 2000 All 14 2 32 - B - CS(J)P 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100×3, 75 0, 4, 0, 4 - - 60 + Down 23 - - - 0, 12, 0, 12 -
Whiffs against guarding opponents
BBTag Waldstein 2BB.png
BBTAG Waldstein 2BB Hitbox.png
  • Grabs opponent and slams them down.
  • Whiffs on blockstun
  • Can be blocked
  • No head invulnerability
  • Lasts 44f total

Be very careful when chaining into this move against blocking opponents as this is unsafe. It can also occasionally whiff if the opponent is extremely close to Wald during 5B.

2C
2C
BBTag Waldstein 2C.png
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2C
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1700 Low 11 4 17 -2 F - S(J)P 90
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
75 4 18 Launch 40 Launch 55 12 +0 +5
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein 2C.png
BBTAG Waldstein 2C Hitbox.png


Fantastic range for a low. Rebeat allows you to convert into Wald's bnbs without much trouble.

j.A
j.A
BBTag Waldstein jA.png
BBTag Waldstein jAA.png
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j.A


j.A
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1500 High 14 3 14 - H - SJP 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
80 3 16 17 17 22 31 11 +0 +2
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein jA.png
BBTAG Waldstein JA Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.

Huge vertical hitbox. Can be used as a rising instant overhead and combo using an assist.

j.AA


j.AA
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1500 High 9 8 16 - H - SJP 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
80 3 16 17 20 22 34 11 +0 +2
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein jAA.png
BBTAG Waldstein JAA Hitbox.png

Waldstein’s UNI j.A

j.B
j.B
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j.B
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1700 High 13 6 16 - H - SJP 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 Launch 40 + WBounce Launch 55 + WBounce 12 +0 +5
Cuts projectiles
BBTag Waldstein jB.png
I win air
BBTAG Waldstein JB Hitbox.png
  • Wallbounces on hit.

Air-to-air move with a super long horizontal hitbox. Use it for opponents trying to jump or zone you from the air as it reaches almost fullscreen.

j.C
j.C
BBTag Waldstein jC.png
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j.C
normal
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
2500 High 20 Until L 24L -10 H - - 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
90 5 20 Launch 40 + Down 23 Launch 56 + Down 23 13 +0 +8
BBTag Waldstein jC.png
BBTAG Waldstein JC Hitbox.png


  • Alters air momentum to stall then quickly fall towards the ground
  • Causes hard knockdown on hit

Body splash move that can be used to bait anti-airs or set up crossups. Bear in mind that it is unsafe on block, meaning it should either be spaced with care outside of range from fast normals, or covered by an assist.


Universal Mechanics

Ground Throw
Ground Throw
5B+C
BBTag Waldstein GroundThrow.png
This b*tch empy. YEET
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BC
Ground Throw
other
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 2000 Throw 7~30 3 23 - T - S 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
50 5 - Launch 60 + Down 29 - - - - 0 -
Minimum damage 2000
BBTag Waldstein GroundThrow.png
BBTAG Waldstein Throw Hitbox.png


  • Knocks down

When using Waldstein's normal throws midscreen, you can combo into grounded normals after dashing towards your opponent.

Verderben
Verderben
5A+D
BBTag Waldstein Verderben.png
"Spoil"
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AD
Verderben
other
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1500, [1500, 0, 1500, 0, 2000] Air Unblockable 22 4 45 -30 B 1~25 All - 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
60 4, 0, 4, 0, 4 18 Launch 60 [23 + Down 23] Launch 75 [48 + Down 23] 12 12, 0, 12, 0, 20 -
Cuts projectiles
Only performs additional hits on catch
Only catches on ground or near ground hit
Values in [] refer to on catch
Minimum Damage 75 [250]
BBTag Waldstein Verderben.png
BBTAG Waldstein RA Hitbox.png


  • Grabs and sideswitches opponent if it hits on the ground
  • 1-25f fully invulnerable

Huge horizontal hitbox, but crappy vertical hitbox and a ton of startup. This makes Waldstein's reversal highly inconsistent against most air based approaches, especially factoring that he can only trigger the more damaging hit grab sequence on grounded or knocked down opponents. On the plus side, the huge range is advantageous when defending against grounded blockstrings as not many grounded normals can strictly outspace Waldstein's reversal. Also has fairly short overall animation time so you can make it safe by throwing out an assist first. Can be hit confirmed from the long range knockdown from 5AAA (but not the close range restand).



Skills

Eisen Naegel
Eisen Naegel
236A
BBTag Waldstein EisenNagel.png
"Iron Nails"
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236A
Eisen Nagel
special
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
2200 All 15 3 27 -11 B - P 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 Launch 50 + GBounce Launch 65 + GBounce 12 +0 +5
Cuts projectiles
Minimum Damage 110
BBTag Waldstein EisenNagel.png
BBTAG Waldstein 236A Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles upon impact.

Fast forward-moving single swipe attack. The hitbox is deceptively huge (it has a ton of forward range and reaches almost to the top of the screen) so it can be used to knock down and oki opponents who think they're far enough to safely zone or jump over you. Beware as it can be unsafe on block if done from too close.

Wirbelwind
Wirbelwind
236B
BBTag Waldstein Wirbelwind.png
"Whirlwind"
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236B
Wirbelwind
special
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1200×3 All 30 3(9)4(10)5 27 -13 B - P 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 19×2, Launch 60 24×2, Launch 75 2×2, 12 +0 +5
Cuts projectiles
Minimum Damage 60×3 (180)
BBTag Waldstein Wirbelwind.png
BBTAG Waldstein 236B Hitbox.png
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.

3-hit swipe combo. Has less range and more recovery than 236A but deals more damage, so this is the version you'll probably want to go for for combo filler.

As this move has multiple hits, it can potentially delete even multihit projectiles when spaced correctly, though this is very inconsistent and likely to leave you open to be counterhit instead.

Drehen Durchbohren
Drehen Durchbohren
214A/B
BBTag Waldstein DrehenDurchbohren.png
"Rotate Piercing"
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A


214A
A Drehen Durchbohren
special
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 500, 3000 Throw 8 2 33 - T 1~9 T - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100×2, 50 4 - Launch 19 + Down 53 - - - - 0, 12, 20 -
Minimum Damage 175
BBTag Waldstein DrehenDurchbohren.png
BBTAG Waldstein 214A Hitbox.png
  • Faster than 214B but short range.

Command grab. If the opponent is in hitstun, becomes a hitgrab that will combo after various moves, notably 5AAA.

B


214B
B Drehen Durchbohren
special
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 500, 3500 Throw 13 2 36 - T 1~14 T - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100×2, 50 4 - Launch 19 + Down 53 - - - - 0, 12, 20 -
Minimum Damage 200
BBTag Waldstein DrehenDurchbohren.png
BBTAG Waldstein 214A Hitbox.png
  • Longer startup but longer range.

Better for tick throws off 5A or 2A as you have to wait for the throw invul to end before you can grab them anyway, and the extra startup isn't enough to make it reactable either way. If you have an assist out, you can press D at the same time as the 214B input to switch to the other character while the throw animates and get a combo after.

Aerial Verderben
Aerial Verderben
j.214A/B
BBTag Waldstein AerialVerderben.png
Aerial "Spoil"
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A


j.214A
Aerial A Verderben
special
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 2300 Throw 7 3 Until L + 10L - T - - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100, 85 0, 4 - - 19, Down 23 - - - 0, 20 -
On catch, stops horizontal momentum
Minimum Damage 115
BBTag Waldstein AerialVerderben.png
BBTAG Waldstein J214A Hitbox.png
  • Important points go here

Air command grab that can combo on opponents in hitstun. Can be used to grab blocking opponents out of the air or end air combos.

B


j.214B
Aerial B Verderben
special
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 2700 Throw 10 3 Until L + 10L - T - - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100, 85 0, 4 - - 19, Down 23 - - - 0, 20 -
On catch, stops horizontal momentum
Minimum Damage 135
BBTag Waldstein AerialVerderben.png
BBTAG Waldstein J214A Hitbox.png
  • Important points go here

Slower but more range and damage than the A version.


Extra Skills

EX Wirbelwind
EX Wirbelwind
236C
BBTag Waldstein Wirbelwind.png
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236C
EX Wirbelwind
ex
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1200×4 All 15 2(12)2(11)2(8)4 22 -7 B - P 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 19×2, Launch×2 60×3, 60 + Down 33 24×2, Launch×2 75×3, 75 + Down 33 2×2, 12×2 +0 +5
Cuts projectiles
Minimum Damage 120×4 (480)
BBTag Waldstein Wirbelwind.png
BBTAG Waldstein 236C Hitbox.png


  • Important points go here

236B with a fourth hit that knocks down. Mostly just for damage.

EX Drehen Durchbohren
EX Drehen Durchbohren
214C
BBTag Waldstein DrehenDurchbohren.png
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214C
EX Drehen Durchbohren
ex
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
(0, 500)×3, 0, 1000, 0, 2500 Throw 13 2 36 - T 1~14 T - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100×9, 50 (0, 4)×5 - Launch 19 + Down 53 - - - - 0×2, 8, 12×2 -
Minimum Damage 500
BBTag Waldstein DrehenDurchbohren.png
BBTAG Waldstein 214C Hitbox.png


  • Has 214A's fast startup and 214B's range.

Detailed description of the usefulness of the move go here

EX Aerial Verderben
EX Aerial Verderben
j.214C
BBTag Waldstein AerialVerderben.png
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j.214C
EX Aerial Verderben
ex
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 500, 0, 2700 Throw 7 3 Until L + 10L - T - - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100×3, 85 (0, 4)×2 - - 19 + Down 33 - - - 0, 12, 0, 20 -
On catch, falls forward
Minimum Damage 320
BBTag Waldstein AerialVerderben.png
BBTAG Waldstein J214C Hitbox.png


  • Switches sides upon landing, so be careful when using it in the corner.

Detailed description of the usefulness of the move go here


Partner Skills

5P
5P
Eisen Naegel
BBTag Waldstein EisenNagel.png
You can cut that RIGHT out
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5P
Eisen Nagel
assist
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1700 All (18)+15 3 27 -11 B - - 70
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 Launch 60 + GBounce - - 12 +0 -
Cuts projectiles
Minimum Damage 85
BBTag Waldstein EisenNagel.png
You can cut that RIGHT out
BBTAG Waldstein 5P Hitbox.png
  • Causes ground bounce on hit

Waldstein's least impressive assist in terms of block pressure and hit confirmation options, but still potent. The combined range and startup of this assist is particularly good for controlling space in neutral, and you can actually combo straight into another 5P or 4P when canceling this move into Cross Combo.

6P
6P
Wirbelwind
BBTag Waldstein Wirbelwind.png
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6P
Wirbelwind
assist
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1200×3 All (18)+65 3(9)4(10)5 28 -11 B - - 70
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 19×2, Launch 60 - - 2×2, 12 +0 -
Cuts projectiles
Minimum Damage 60×3 (180)
BBTag Waldstein Wirbelwind.png
BBTAG Waldstein 6P Hitbox.png


  • Has a long pause before attacking. Not very good for combos, but can be good for setplays.

Very strong assist both for lockdown and creating ambiguous crossover situations due to the extremely generous hit/blockstun generated by the three hits of this move. Also an ideal assist for covering your own reversals.

4P
4P
Felsen Vulf
BBTag Waldstein FelsenVulf.png
"Rock Wolf"
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4P
Felsen Vulf
assist
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
1700×2 All (18)+13 3(19)P Total (18)+66 -1 P - - 70
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
85 4 18 Launch 60 + Down 23, 40 + Down 23 - - 12, 0/+12 +0, +12 -
Cuts projectiles
P in active frames represents a projectile spawned
Minimum Damage 85×2 (170)
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BBTAG Waldstein 4P Hitbox.png


  • There's always a gap between its between hits.
  • When canceled via Active Switch or Cross Combo, the first hit causes a hard knockdown.

Waldstein's fastest assist. Relatively short horizontal range but good vertical range on the first hit. Point character can cross up between its hits. When canceling the move early, the first hit has absurdly long hitstun, enabling a variety of combos afterwards.


Distortion Skills

Sturmangriff Rage
Sturmangriff Rage
236B+C
BBTag Waldstein Sturmangriff.png
"Assault Rage"

When you die, where's your god?

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236BC
Strumangriff
super
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 2000, 0, 5900
[(0, 2000)×2, 0, 5500]
Throw 13+(60 Flash)+1 Until Wall 49 - T 1~24 All
25~Until Wall P
- 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100×3, 60 [100×5, 60] 4 - Launch 120 + WBounce - - - 0, 12, 0, 30
[(0, 12)×2, 0, 30]
-
Values in [] are for Enhanced version
Minimum damage: 400, 1534 (1934)
[Minimum damage: 400×2, 1320 (2120)]
BBTag Waldstein Sturmangriff.png
BBTAG Waldstein 236BC Hitbox.png
  • Carries the opponent to the corner from anywhere
  • 1-16f fully invulnerable

Despite appearances, this is a throw, which means they need to jump to avoid it. Primarily for combos and punishes; not 0f after superflash so if you are trying to mix up the opponent, use the other super instead.

Werfen Erschlagen
Werfen Erschlagen
214B+C
BBTag Waldstein WerfenErschlagen.png
"Throw Slain"

By the time you see it you're already grabbed

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214BC
Werfen Erschlagen
super
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
(0, 2000)×2, 5000
[(0, 500)×3, (0, 2000)×2, 5000]
Throw 13+(60 Flash)+0 5 44 - T 1~17 All - 80
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100×4, 60 [100×10, 60] 4 - Launch 120 + Down 43 - - - - 0 -
Values in [] are for Enhanced version
Value in () is for final hit if super is done with 720BC
Minimum damage: 2300 (2476)
[Minimum damage: 2600 (2776)]
BBTag Waldstein WerfenErschlagen.png
By the time you see it you're already grabbed
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  • 1-19f fully invulnerable

Superthrow with invul and a fair bit of active frames, so you can actually anti-air some diving attacks like Narukami j.C with this.


Distortion Skill Duo

Werfen Erschlagen
P during Main Character's Distortion Skill
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Distortion Skill Duo
Werfen Erschlagen
super
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
(0, 500)×2, 1500 [0, 100, (0, 200)×2, (0, 500)×2, 1500] All 1+(79 Flash)+1 5 34 -29 B 1~6 All - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100 4 - Launch 120 + Down 43 - - 0 +0 +0
Values in [] are for Enhanced version
Minimum Damage: 2500 [3000]
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BBTAG Waldstein DSD Hitbox.png


  • This is still a grab

If your first character's distortion was blocked, you can still tag into this super to grab the opponent if they try to punish the recovery frames. Force them to respect you


Astral Heat

Katastrophe
222B+C
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"Catastrophe"
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222BC
Katastrophe
astral
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln Cancel P1
0, 20000, 37000 Throw 13+(72 Flash)+0 5 21 - T 1~17 All - 100
P2 Attack Level Blockstun Ground Hit Air Hit Ground CH Air CH Blockstop Hitstop CHstop
100 0 - - - - - - 0 -
Minimum damage 57000
BBTag Waldstein Katastrophe.pngBBTag Waldstein Katastrophe2.png
"Catastrophe" • CHAOS DUNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKK!!!
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  • 1-16f fully invulnerable

This is a command grab. As of patch 1.30 update, you can combo into this move in situations where you could also combo into 214BC.


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