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(Still not very fond of "A" and "B". Again, if anybody has better names for these feel free to change them.)
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* Each '''throw''' of the same "family" can only be used once per combo. For example, Piccolo can do 5S, 2S, j.S, then Z Change to Android 16 to do M Gliding Powerbomb, Dragon Rush all in one combo; Broly can combo M Gigantic Strike into Aerial M Gigantic Strike, but can’t do M Gigantic Strike into H Gigantic Strike, as they belong to the same family.
 
* Each '''throw''' of the same "family" can only be used once per combo. For example, Piccolo can do 5S, 2S, j.S, then Z Change to Android 16 to do M Gliding Powerbomb, Dragon Rush all in one combo; Broly can combo M Gigantic Strike into Aerial M Gigantic Strike, but can’t do M Gigantic Strike into H Gigantic Strike, as they belong to the same family.
  
* '''Dragon Rush''' is type A* if landed raw, and consumes A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property on Vanish if performed mid-combo.
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* '''Dragon Rush''' is type A* if landed raw, while "consumes" A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property of Vanish if performed mid-combo. This means on hit it'll block further usage of type A1 and B1 Smash!, but not type 2 and 3.
  
* '''Guard Cancel''' consumes A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property on Vanish.
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* '''Guard Cancel''' consumes A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property of Vanish.
  
* '''Super Attacks''' vary from different Smash! types, but they also consume A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property on Vanish.
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* '''Super Attacks''' vary from different Smash! types, but they also consume A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property of Vanish.
  
 
More information on this is described in the [[DBFZ/Damage#Combo_System|Combo System]] section, and on individual character pages.
 
More information on this is described in the [[DBFZ/Damage#Combo_System|Combo System]] section, and on individual character pages.
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The in-depth conditions to get Smash! property for type B* moves are as follows:
 
The in-depth conditions to get Smash! property for type B* moves are as follows:
  
*<s>During the hitstun of a type A* Smash, the opponent must be hit by any move that's not a ground normal. Though technically, these moves only have to be ''inputted'' during the hitstun, meaning the combo can turn invalid.</s> This seems inaccurate at the moment, needs more testing. Specifically Z Assists can extend this hitstun period and somehow ruin the ground slide, but quickly goes from Z Assists to the followups still works fine.
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*The opponent must be hit with a type A* Smash that still has its "launching" property.
  
*If you're grounded, you must leave the ground with anything ''but'' a normal jump (or high jump). For example: Super Dash, Trunks' Cyclone Jump, any form of teleportation, etc.
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*You're not allowed to re-enter neutral ground stance. Meaning:
  
*And finally, if you're airborne, you mustn't land. Though certain special moves that teleport you back to the ground are still OK.
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**If you're grounded, you must cancel the Smash! move recovery frames with a special. For example: Super Dash, Trunks' Cyclone Jump, any form of teleportation, etc. No jumping, no standing for too long before doing the special.
  
If a combo meets all of these conditions, even if it becomes invalid at any point, it's guaranteed to get a sliding knockdown.
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**If you're airborne, you mustn't land. Though using special moves that teleport you back to the ground are still OK, so as long as their recovery frames are cancelled into something else.
  
What all of this means is that you can do things like Sparking! Cell 5LLL > M Perfect Attack > call Gotenks Z Assist + empty Vanish > j.L > j.LL > Gotenks Z Assist hits > Z Change to Frieza > j.L > j.LL > j.2H into a sliding knockdown. [https://youtu.be/SA7yky9QbTc Video example.]
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If a combo meets these conditions, even if it becomes invalid at any point, then type B* moves are guaranteed to get their sliding knockdown. 
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What all of this means is that you can do things like Sparking! Cell 5LLL > M Perfect Attack > Gotenks Z Assist + empty Vanish > j.L > j.LL > Z Change to Frieza > j.L > j.LL > j.2H into a sliding knockdown. [https://youtu.be/SA7yky9QbTc Video example.]
  
 
===Dynamic!===
 
===Dynamic!===
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===Wall Bounce===
 
===Wall Bounce===
Certain moves will cause the opponent to bounce off the edge of the screen when the opponent makes contact with it. This is known as a wall bounce, and it's generally used to extend combos. Every character's 5H, with the exception of Cooler's and Jiren's, causes a small wall bounce, so it's seen very often in play. Most of the time, normals and specials that can cause a wall bounce will only do so if the Smash! version is used. For example, as stated, almost all 5H moves will cause a wall bounce if they are the Smash! version, but will not cause a bounce if a Smash! is not triggered. However, there is no limit to how many times a wall bounce can be used in a combo. It's difficult to utilize the lack of a hard limit due to wall bounces generally being limited to the Smash! property, but it's certainly something to keep in mind.
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Certain moves have rather long extended untechable time, and will have bonus properties and a second untechable time if the opponent touches a surface during this duration. One type will interact with walls and cause a wall bounce, while the other interact with the ground and cause some forms of "knockdown."
 
 
How the wall bounce behaves depends on what move is used. For example, Ginyu's M Jersey Rush causes a wall bounce where the opponent hits the wall and simply falls down in place, while the heavy version causes them to hit the opposite wall and bounce aggressively back to midscreen. In this case, the medium version allows a wide variety of followups in the corner, but almost nothing without the help of assists when used midscreen, and vise versa for the heavy version.
 
 
 
Hitstun and untechable time are not affected by wall bounces. That is to say, the total amount of time you have to continue a combo after a wall bounce does not change even if when the wall bounce happened does. Because of this, it's preferable to trigger most wall bounces as close to the corner as possible, as this allows the largest window to continue the combo after the bounce happens. At the same time, however, certain moves that cause a wall bounce do so at a low height, such as 5H, and thus your opponent will hit the ground after the bounce before they would be allowed to tech in the air. In cases like these, creating more space allows them to travel a bit before the wall bounce happens. This allows more of the move's untechable time to be utilized, which may allow for certain combos that previously were not possible.
 
  
===Ground Bounce===
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For the first type, upon hitting the edge of the screen, the opponent will be knocked back with some extra untech-time, allowing you to potentially extend your combos. Generally, this property only comes from type A Smash! moves, with the prime examples being 5H, some j.2H, and Vanish.
While rare in Dragon Ball FighterZ, certain moves have the ability to bounce your opponent off the ground, allowing for potential followups.
 
  
Ground bounces function very similarly to wall bounces with a few key differences:
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How much the opponent bounces back depends on the moves. Some moves will cause a big bounce that sends the opponent back to midscreen, while some will keep them at the edge of the screen, meaning they allow a wide variety of followups in the corner, but almost nothing without the help of assists when used midscreen, vice versa for the big bounce.
* Most moves that have the ability to ground bounce do not have this feature tied to the Smash! property, with a handful of exceptions such as Cooler's 5H and Bardock's Aerial M Rebellion Spear.
 
* Certain moves may only trigger a ground bounce under certain conditions, such as requiring the opponent to not be in a launched state, or only the first hit of a move causing the bounce.
 
* Whenever a ground bounce is triggered, the current remaining untechable time of the move is reset to a standard value. This means that regardless of how high they fell before the bounce happened, they will always remain vulnerable after the bounce for the same amount of time, subject to hitstun decay.
 
  
Ground bounces can allow for very powerful combos when used properly, mostly due to the final property in that list. Since the bounce has its own standardized untechable time, the total window to continue the combo becomes "duration of the bounce" + "how long they were falling," i.e. the higher they were when they were hit by the move that bounces, the more total untechable time they will experience. For example, Hit can launch his opponent high into the air with his 2H, then cancel into 236M stance and continue with LLL. The downwards strike of this stance move can ground bounce, and since the opponent was so high in the air, Hit has enough time to link a 5L before they can tech, which he normally cannot do if this move hits an opponent that's closer to the ground.
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Another variation of wall bounce is "corner bounce," which "only" causes a wall bounce in the corner. Technically these moves do cause wall bounce everywhere on screen, but the knockback isn't strong enough for the opponent to reach the current wall. Like stated in the Dynamic! j.H section, one can "cheat the system" by tagging a teammate in to "pull" the wall back, allowing for the wall bounce to trigger, but it's generally not possible to do this with special moves.
  
Due to how rare ground bounces are, they have many interesting applications for the characters that can use them that are available to nobody else on the cast. If your character has one, finding a way to make use of it is generally a very good way to expand your routing options.
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The distinction between "wall bounce" and "corner bounce" is really only made since "causing a wall bounce in the corner unless Z Change" is too mouthful.
  
===Launcher===
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===Ground Bounce and Knockdowns===
Certain moves will launch your opponent into the air and allow for high altitude followup combos. Most notably, everyone's 2H anti air will allow for a followup combo in this way when the Smash! version is used. Other notable examples include Dragon Rush when not preformed during a combo, and the final hit of the light autocombo for certain characters.
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There are a variety of knockdowns in Dragon Ball FighterZ:
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* '''Soft knockdown:''' The opponent can ground-tech as soon as they touch the ground. This is the default "knockdown" state, as it simply cuts the current untechable time short.
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* '''Sliding knockdown:''' Although they won't always visibly "slide", upon making ground contact, the opponent suffers from a second untechable time on the ground and is vulnerable to Off The Ground attacks. Afterward, they will be able to ground-tech, but cannot combine the delay wakeup tech with any other tech options like they can do on a soft knockdown. This type usually comes from type B Smash! moves.
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* '''Hard knockdown:''' The opponent isn't vulnerable to OTG moves during the second untech-time, but cannot ground-tech and is forced to stand up as soon as the untech-time ends. This type only comes from Meteor Attacks.
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* '''Ground bounce:''' Instead of leaving the opponent on the ground, the second untech-time leave them vulnerable in the air, they can then air-tech afterward. Very few moves have this property, and the ground bounce itself usually only triggers under certain conditions.
  
In the vast majority of cases, making use of a launcher will require the use of your Smash! property. However, moves may still launch even without a Smash!, though continuing the combo may not be possible without it. Every 2H functions this way, where it will still launch without a Smash!, but in most situations requires it to continue the combo with a Super Dash.
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Sliding knockdown and hard knockdown are strong and common tools for setting up oki and maintaining pressure. While ground bounce is rare and used for combo extension.
  
Launchers are extremely common combo extenders, especially for characters that are able to do the standard magic series with a j2H launcher. In addition, launchers that consume the Smash! property may allow the character's jH to cause a sliding knockdown with a higher base damage, rather than the standard soft knockdown it usually causes. This is only the case for characters with a jH that causes a knockdown, however.
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There are no limit to how many "sliding knockdowns" one can land in a single combo
  
===Ground Slide===
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===Off The Ground (OTG)===
A ground slide is a special state where your opponent enters knockdown but continues to slide along the ground for a short time, before they stop sliding and are able to tech. This state is usually caused by moves that can Smash! and also knock down, however in some rare cases a slide can occur without a Smash!, such as an aerial Dragon Rush, Frieza's Death Saucer as it returns or Goku (SSGSS)'s Z Assist.
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While rare in Dragon Ball FighterZ, some moves can hit the opponent during their sliding knockdowns.
  
During this slide, your opponent generally cannot be hit by any normal or special moves. They can, however, be hit by supers. Certain moves may also have the ability to continue the combo after a ground slide, such as Vegeta's "I have no use for Saiyans that can't move", but these moves are exceptions to the rule.
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All Super and Meteor Attacks can hit OTG. This makes it very easy to add extra damage at the end of combos, so as long as you have bars to spend.
  
Ground slides are usually used to both set up okizeme after a combo, as well as enable easy confirms into supers when attempting to kill the opponent's current character. Ground slides do not allow your opponent to combine the delay wakeup tech with any other tech options like they can do on a soft knockdown, so this type of knockdown is preferable when it is able to be achieved.
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Vegeta's "I have no use for Saiyans that can't move" is currently the only special move in the game that can do this.
  
 
==Attack Level==
 
==Attack Level==

Revision as of 15:21, 24 February 2019

Attack Attributes

Each attack in the game has an attribute. Attributes are broken up in a few broad categories: strike, projectile, throw. These attributes interact with each other to trigger certain effects like invincibility and guard point.

Strike Attribute
Strike attributes are broken up into two groups: airborne and ground. As a rule of thumb, attacks performed while standing/crouching are ground, and jumping strikes are airborne, but there are exceptions.
Strike attacks are the most common in the game and can clash with each other.
Projectile Attribute
There are various types of projectiles in the game, but they can be broken up into 3 general levels of durability.
Level 1 (Small Ki Blasts)
Most S Normal attacks fall into this category, but some specials do as well, such as Piccolo's Homing Energy Blast.
These can be Super Dashed through
Level 2 (Beams)
Most special move projectiles fall into this category, like Goku's Kamehameha, Gohan's Masenko, and Tien's Dodon Ray
These will go through projectiles of lower level without losing any hits
Level 2 projectiles can not be Super Dashed through
Level 3 (Super Beams)
Most super attack projectiles fall into this category, like Goku's Super Kamehameha, Vegeta's Big Bang Attack, and Trunks' Burning Attack
These will go through projectiles of lower level without losing any hits
Level 3 projectiles can not be Super Dashed through
Throw Attribute
Throws cannot be blocked or Z Reflected, but they will not work against opponents who are in blockstun.

Attribute Invincibility

Some moves are invulnerable or automatically guard against certain attributes during certain times. For example, most 2H attacks have invincibility against airborne strikes starting from frame 4 through all the active frames.

Other moves automatically guard against attacks with certain attributes, such as Super Dash and Trunks' Change the Future guarding against Level 1 Projectiles and Nappa's Too Bad guarding against strikes, or armor through against attacks with certain attributes, such as Android 16's 5H absorbing attacks that can be blocked high.

These properties will be listed in the frame data as they are discovered.

Counter Hit

A Counter Hit occurs when you hit an opponent out of the startup of their attack. On hit, both the attacker and defender suffer additional hitstop so generally, there is no additional benefit to counter hits compared to normal hits. However when counter hit by a projectile, this additional hitstop does not apply to the attacker - only the defender and the projectile suffer additional hitstop, giving the attacker a little bit of extra time to land a hit and start a combo.

Hitting Two Opponents With the Same Attack

Yamcha and Krillin getting hit by Cell's 5M

One attack can hit multiple targets assuming they are within range. For example one attack can hit BOTH the opponent and an assist.

Normally, when an attack touches the opponent, the remaining active frames are converted into recovery frames. However, if there is a second hittable character, then the remaining active frames can still hit him!

This leads to visually strange situations like Cell's 2M (the slide) hitting Nappa's Saibaman, then a moment later, Nappa gets hit by the remaining active frames of the slide.

This also applies to projectiles like Goku's Kamehameha and Piccolo's Homing Energy Blast, but the later case is more difficult to take advantage of since the projectile will shatter the instant it touches an opponent.

Hit Effects

Smash!

A lot of moves in Dragon Ball FighterZ have a cinematic "Smash!" version, usually with stronger properties and higher damage. Not all of them will trigger the "Smash!" prompt, but a way to tell if a move triggers Smash! property is typically a change in camera angle or a short cinematic that plays out on hit.

There are 2 types of Smash:

  • Type A: These usually knock the opponent into the air or sideways into a wall bounce.
    • Type A*: These are "launchers," a subset of type A. They have an added property of enabling some type B to get their Smash! within the same combo. This property only applies to the first A Smash! of the combo. There are currently no specials nor supers that are type A* launchers.
  • Type B: These are usually downward hitting and accompanied with sliding knockdowns.
    • Type B*: Subset of type B that requires an A* Smash! used previously in the combo to trigger Smash! property. More on this will be described below.

On top of different types, each Smash moves also follow one of these trigger conditions:

1. Only triggers if no Smash of the same type has been used.

2. Triggers even if the same type has been used, but only once.

3. Always triggers.

Cinematic sequences can only be triggered by the current point character, upon hitting the opponent's point character. This means Smash! will also only trigger on point characters and not Z Assists. However, moves like command throws and Super Attacks, despite always triggering cinematic, do have non-Smash! versions with different properties or even different animations all together. The "Smash!" prompt can also shows up for moves that don't even have Smash! properties. It's best identifying Smash! attacks by following the two criteria above, and testing them on Z Assists if possible.

Here are some basic run downs on cinematic attacks:

  • 5LLL is type A3*. As noted above, its launching property only applies if it's the first A Smash! of the combo, subsequent use does not activate B* (with a few exceptions).
  • 5H and some j.2H are type A1.
  • 2H and most j.2H are type A1*.
  • Most j.H are type B1*.
  • Special Moves can vary from all types of Smash! and conditions. Some specials can even trigger either a B or B* Smash! with different properties on hit depending on which Smash! properties have already been satisfied.
  • Vanish is type A2, with the special trigger condition of cancelling from another attack.
  • Sparking Blast does not consume Smash!.
  • Each throw of the same "family" can only be used once per combo. For example, Piccolo can do 5S, 2S, j.S, then Z Change to Android 16 to do M Gliding Powerbomb, Dragon Rush all in one combo; Broly can combo M Gigantic Strike into Aerial M Gigantic Strike, but can’t do M Gigantic Strike into H Gigantic Strike, as they belong to the same family.
  • Dragon Rush is type A* if landed raw, while "consumes" A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property of Vanish if performed mid-combo. This means on hit it'll block further usage of type A1 and B1 Smash!, but not type 2 and 3.
  • Guard Cancel consumes A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property of Vanish.
  • Super Attacks vary from different Smash! types, but they also consume A Smash!, B Smash! and the Smash! property of Vanish.

More information on this is described in the Combo System section, and on individual character pages.

Type B* Smash!

The in-depth conditions to get Smash! property for type B* moves are as follows:

  • The opponent must be hit with a type A* Smash that still has its "launching" property.
  • You're not allowed to re-enter neutral ground stance. Meaning:
    • If you're grounded, you must cancel the Smash! move recovery frames with a special. For example: Super Dash, Trunks' Cyclone Jump, any form of teleportation, etc. No jumping, no standing for too long before doing the special.
    • If you're airborne, you mustn't land. Though using special moves that teleport you back to the ground are still OK, so as long as their recovery frames are cancelled into something else.

If a combo meets these conditions, even if it becomes invalid at any point, then type B* moves are guaranteed to get their sliding knockdown.

What all of this means is that you can do things like Sparking! Cell 5LLL > M Perfect Attack > Gotenks Z Assist + empty Vanish > j.L > j.LL > Z Change to Frieza > j.L > j.LL > j.2H into a sliding knockdown. Video example.

Dynamic!

Unlike the typical j.H with ground slide, every character also has a "Dynamic!" version of j.H that still consumes B Smash! while being inferior to Smash! in almost every way. This version can be triggered by successfully landing a 5LLL, in a combo that hasn't used A Smash!, then mash L to perform a Super Dash, followed by j.L, j.LL and j.LLL. Manually inputting Super Dash (H+S) won't work, manual j.M and j.H won't work, too much delay or attempting to do any other move and it won't work. Though calling Z Assists is fine as long as L is still being mashed.

The big thing about Dynamic! j.H is that it's a reliable way to get a Dragon Ball and is the only way to summon Shenron. Dynamic! j.H also typically causes a soft knockdown mid-screen and a decently big wall bounce in the corner. This can be put to use outside of the corner by tagging another character in right after j.LLL, which pulls the "wall" back, causing a wall bounce instead of a soft knockdown. The tagged in character can then continue the combo, this means the player can guarantee a Dragon Ball without sacrificing too much damage.

Anti-Air!

Moves with Anti-Air! property will have invulnerability against attacks with head attribute. If a head attribute attack passes through the character's body while they're doing an Anti-Air move, a blue bubble can be seen flashing out from them and the prompt "Anti-Air!" will show up.

Not to be confused with the term anti-air, as some attacks without any invulnerability can also be used for anti-airing.

All characters have 2H as a universal attack with Anti-Air! property. Conversely, universal airborne actions such as j.L, j.M, j.H, Super Dash and Vanish are all head attribute attacks, so these are among the moves you should be looking out for.

It's not always obvious which attacks have head attribute. Most attacks performed in the air or moves that put the character in an airborne state have head attribute. However, the universal overhead, 6M, does not have head attribute, despite the characters physically jumping up. This quirk also applies to Super Attacks, as Vegito's Omega Finishing Blow (a mid strike) has head attribute while Frieza's Nova Strike (an overhead) doesn't.

The easiest way to test if a move has head property is simply try to 2H them. And the easiest way to test if a move has Anti-Air! property is to try punishing a j.H.

Wall Bounce

Certain moves have rather long extended untechable time, and will have bonus properties and a second untechable time if the opponent touches a surface during this duration. One type will interact with walls and cause a wall bounce, while the other interact with the ground and cause some forms of "knockdown."

For the first type, upon hitting the edge of the screen, the opponent will be knocked back with some extra untech-time, allowing you to potentially extend your combos. Generally, this property only comes from type A Smash! moves, with the prime examples being 5H, some j.2H, and Vanish.

How much the opponent bounces back depends on the moves. Some moves will cause a big bounce that sends the opponent back to midscreen, while some will keep them at the edge of the screen, meaning they allow a wide variety of followups in the corner, but almost nothing without the help of assists when used midscreen, vice versa for the big bounce.

Another variation of wall bounce is "corner bounce," which "only" causes a wall bounce in the corner. Technically these moves do cause wall bounce everywhere on screen, but the knockback isn't strong enough for the opponent to reach the current wall. Like stated in the Dynamic! j.H section, one can "cheat the system" by tagging a teammate in to "pull" the wall back, allowing for the wall bounce to trigger, but it's generally not possible to do this with special moves.

The distinction between "wall bounce" and "corner bounce" is really only made since "causing a wall bounce in the corner unless Z Change" is too mouthful.

Ground Bounce and Knockdowns

There are a variety of knockdowns in Dragon Ball FighterZ:

  • Soft knockdown: The opponent can ground-tech as soon as they touch the ground. This is the default "knockdown" state, as it simply cuts the current untechable time short.
  • Sliding knockdown: Although they won't always visibly "slide", upon making ground contact, the opponent suffers from a second untechable time on the ground and is vulnerable to Off The Ground attacks. Afterward, they will be able to ground-tech, but cannot combine the delay wakeup tech with any other tech options like they can do on a soft knockdown. This type usually comes from type B Smash! moves.
  • Hard knockdown: The opponent isn't vulnerable to OTG moves during the second untech-time, but cannot ground-tech and is forced to stand up as soon as the untech-time ends. This type only comes from Meteor Attacks.
  • Ground bounce: Instead of leaving the opponent on the ground, the second untech-time leave them vulnerable in the air, they can then air-tech afterward. Very few moves have this property, and the ground bounce itself usually only triggers under certain conditions.

Sliding knockdown and hard knockdown are strong and common tools for setting up oki and maintaining pressure. While ground bounce is rare and used for combo extension.

There are no limit to how many "sliding knockdowns" one can land in a single combo

Off The Ground (OTG)

While rare in Dragon Ball FighterZ, some moves can hit the opponent during their sliding knockdowns.

All Super and Meteor Attacks can hit OTG. This makes it very easy to add extra damage at the end of combos, so as long as you have bars to spend.

Vegeta's "I have no use for Saiyans that can't move" is currently the only special move in the game that can do this.

Attack Level

Each attack in the game does standardized amounts of hitstun, blockstun, etc. depending on their Attack Level. Note that some moves override these default values, which will be noted in the frame data. In addition to these exceptions, some attacks knock the enemy into the air, wallbounce, etc. As a general rule attacks with the same Attack Level share the same sound effects and graphical effects.

Lvl 0 Lvl 1 Lvl 2 Lvl 3 Lvl 4
Hitstun (Ground Hit) 14 16 18 20 22
Untechable (Air Hit) 14 16 18 20 22
Blockstun (Ground) 11 11 15 15 15
Blockstun (Air) 17 17 21 21 21
Hitstop 6 8 11 14 16
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