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These properties will be listed in the frame data as they are discovered.
These properties will be listed in the frame data as they are discovered.
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==Attack Level==
==Attack Level==
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One attack can hit multiple targets assuming they are within range. For example one attack can hit BOTH the opponent and an assist.
One attack can hit multiple targets assuming they are within range. For example one attack can hit BOTH the opponent and an assist.


Normally, when an attack touches the opponent, the remaining active frames are converted into recovery frames. However, if there is a second hittable character, then the remaining active frames can still hit him!
Normally, when an attack touches the opponent, the remaining active frames can not hit the opponent again. However, if there is a second hittable character, then the remaining active frames can still hit him!


This leads to visually strange situations like Cell's 2M (the slide) hitting Nappa's Saibaman, then a moment later, Nappa gets hit by the remaining active frames of the slide.  
This leads to visually strange situations like Cell's 2M (the slide) hitting Nappa's Saibaman, then a moment later, Nappa gets hit by the remaining active frames of the slide.  
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All Super and Meteor Attacks can hit OTG. This makes it very easy to add extra damage at the end of combos, so as long as you have Ki gauges to spend.
All Super and Meteor Attacks can hit OTG. This makes it very easy to add extra damage at the end of combos, so as long as you have Ki gauges to spend.


Vegeta's "I have no use for Saiyans that can't move" is currently the only special move that can do this.
Vegeta's "I have no use for Saiyans that can't move" and Broly's (DBS) "Gigantic Heave" are the only special moves capable of OTG.
==Hitstop==
When an attack hits an object, both objects freeze in place briefly to give the attack the feeling of more impact. This effect is known as '''hitstop'''  and can vary in duration, like SS Goku's 5L compared to his Dragon Flash Fist (236X). Hitstop helps with combo consistency because you can [[Buffering|buffer]] commands like special cancels during hitstop and it will be executed immediately after hitstop ends.
 
Hitstop applies to anything that can attack or get hit - including projectiles and assists. We will refer to all of these as "objects" for the sake of brevity.
 
Objects experiencing hitstop are frozen in place, but other objects on the stage are unaffected. For example, when Goku's projectile hits the opponent, Goku does not experience hitstop, only the projectile and the opponent do. From Goku's perspective, the hitstop the opponent experiences can be thought of as additional blockstun/hitstun!
 
;Uneven Hitstop
When an attack hits an objects, both usually experience the same amount of hitstop, but this is not always true. Some attacks deal different amounts of hitstop on hit vs block, or normal vs counter hit.
 
;Armor and Parry Stances
Attacks with armor and parry-type attacks are attacks that guard the opponent's attack before retaliating with their own. When these attacks guard the opponent's attack, they can also change how much hitstop each object experiences! This is why some counter type attacks can beat [[Safe Jump|safe jumps]]; they force the attacker into enough uneven hitstop that the defender can attack before the attacker can reach the ground and guard!
 
Jiren's H Shock Tornado (214H) is an example of this.
 
;Projectiles
As mentioned above, projectiles are considered separate objects from the character that summoned them, so when they hit other objects, the character doesn't experience hitstop. The projectile itself does experience hitstop - which explains why multihit projectiles don't do their hits one frame after the other, they need to wait for hitstop to end before they can hit the opponent again!
 
 
;Miscellaneous Hitstop Notes
:;Amount of Hitstop
::The amount of hitstop an attack deals depends on its [[#Attack Level|attack level]], but certain attacks can override these default values.
:;Getting Hit While in Hitstop
::Hitstop does not confer any invincibility - your state carries over from what you were doing before. If you were invincible/hitstun/blockstun before hitstop, then you will still be in that state during hitstop. If you are hit while in hitstop, then the previous hitstop ends and the new hitstop begins.
:;Hitting Assist Characters
::Neither you nor the assist experience hitstop.


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Attack Attributes

Each attack in the game has an attribute. Attributes are broken up in a few broad categories: physical and projectile. These attributes interact with each other to trigger certain effects like invincibility and guard point.

Physical Attribute

Physical attribute in this game are broken up into 2 groups: head, body and foot. As a rule of thumb, standing attacks are body, crouching attacks are foot and jumping/airborne attacks are head, but that is not always the case. Note that attack attribute is completely independent of how the attack must be blocked.

Physical attacks are the most common in the game, with each attack having a "priority" level. Attacks of the same priority will clash with each other. Attacks of different priority levels won't clash, but in situations where they would, the strike with higher durability level will gain full invulnerability for as long as their hitboxes overlap, effectively win the exchange.

  • Level 1 (L normals)
  • Level 2 (M normals)
  • Level 3 (air H normals and most Special Attacks)
  • Level 4 (ground H normals)
  • Level 5 (Super/Meteor Attacks)
  • "Level 6" (throws and other various attacks)

"Level 6" attacks do not clash with any other attack, not even themselves, they simply pass through each other's hitboxes. In situations where they would trade with another attack, if the level 6 attack isn't cinematic, the result is an expected trade. However if said attack is a cinematic one, one attack will beat the other out, but which one wins the exchange is practically random.

There's only one Level 6 attack that can clash, and that's Dragon Rushes clashing with one another for a throw break.

Strikes and Throws

While strikes and throws in this game share the same head, body, foot and priority system. A distinction still has to be made: Throws cannot be blocked or Z Reflected, but they will always whiff against opponents who are in blockstun or 8 frames after exiting blockstun and hitstun.

Strikes are any physical attacks that aren't throws.

Projectile Attribute

Each projectile has a durability level. When two projectiles of equal durability clash, each projectile will lose one hit (so a 3 hit projectile will become a 2 hit projectile, and a 1 hit projectile disappears). Higher level projectiles will reduce one hit of lower level projectiles without losing any hits.

Projectiles cannot clash with physical attacks.

There are various types of projectiles in the game, but they can be broken up into 3 general levels of durability.

  • Level 1 (S normals)
  • Level 2 (Special Attacks)
  • Level 3 (Super/Meteor Attacks)

The frame data will list the durability level alongside its attribute. For example, a projectile with durability level 2 will show P2.

Ki blast

Some attacks have invulnerability against "Ki blast" projectiles, automatically reflecting them on contact.

Durability and "Ki blast" property are independence of one another. The amount of Ki gained by Z Reflect is also determined by Ki blast property, and not by durability.

Ki blast projectiles have two blockstun values: a very short "real" blockstun and a longer "weak" blockstun. At first, during the real blockstun, Z Reflect and Super Dash can be buffered to come out as soon as this blockstun ends. For the rest of the weak blockstun, Z Reflect and Super Dash will come out immediately. This means that a blockstring involving Ki blast can be considered a "fake" one since it can be Reflected out of.

For example: a typical string of Ki blasts like 5[S] is a blockstring that cannot in anyway be escaped if you do not use Reflect or Super Dash, but since there are gaps between the Ki blasts' real blockstun, the opponent can Super Dash through them in the middle blocking.

However, you can turn weak blockstun into real blockstun. If on the first frame that a player exits any blockstun, they then block a projectile of this kind, the weak blockstun now cannot be Reflected or Super Dashed out of. Here's an example with Cell: at point blank, if he does 5L > 5S, or 2L > 5S, then 5S blockstun can be Reflected out of, since there's a big enough gap between the two attacks. However, if you block 5M > 5S, 2M > 5S, 5H > 5S, etc. then 5S blockstun cannot be escaped.

The frame data will list this property alongside its attribute.

Clashing

While it is true that same durability projectiles will reduce the amount of hits from one other during a clash, almost all projectile attacks are programmed to extend their own active frames so that a clash will always resulting in both attacks cancelling each other out.

For example: Super Saiyan Goku's Super Kamehameha (10 hits) will always cancel out with Super Saiyan Vegeta's Big Bang Attack (1 hit).

Attribute Invincibility

A blue circle appears when you are attribute invincible to an attack

Some moves are invulnerable or automatically guard against certain attributes. For example, all 2H have head attribute invincibility starting from frame 4 through all the active frames, so it's the universal anti-air since most jumping attacks, air specials, etc., are considered Head attribute.

Other moves automatically guard against attacks with certain attributes, such as Super Dash and Trunks' Change the Future guarding against Ki blasts and Nappa's Too Bad guarding against strikes, or armor through against attacks with certain attributes, such as Android 16's 5H absorbing head and body strikes.

These properties will be listed in the frame data as they are discovered.

Attack Level

Each attack in the game does standardized amounts of hitstun, blockstun, etc. depending on their Attack Level. Note that some moves override these default values, which will be noted in the frame data. In addition to these exceptions, some attacks knock the enemy into the air, wallbounce, etc. As a general rule attacks with the same Attack Level share the same sound effects and graphical effects.

Lvl 0 Lvl 1 Lvl 2 Lvl 3 Lvl 4
Hitstun (Ground Hit) 14 16 18 20 22
Untechable (Air Hit) 14 16 18 20 22
Blockstun (Ground) 11 11 15 15 15
Hitstop 6 8 11 14 16
  • Air blocking adds 2F of blockstun
  • Landing while in blockstun adds an extra 4F of blockstun


Counter Hit

A Counter Hit occurs when you hit an opponent out of the startup of their attack. On hit, the attacker gains 50% more Ki on that attack only, and both the attacker and defender suffer additional hitstop, there is no additional benefit to counter hits compared to normal hits. However when counter hit by a projectile, this additional hitstop does not apply to the attacker - only the defender and the projectile suffer additional hitstop, giving the attacker a little bit of extra time to land a hit and start a combo.

Hitting Two Opponents With the Same Attack

Yamcha and Krillin getting hit by Cell's 5M

One attack can hit multiple targets assuming they are within range. For example one attack can hit BOTH the opponent and an assist.

Normally, when an attack touches the opponent, the remaining active frames can not hit the opponent again. However, if there is a second hittable character, then the remaining active frames can still hit him!

This leads to visually strange situations like Cell's 2M (the slide) hitting Nappa's Saibaman, then a moment later, Nappa gets hit by the remaining active frames of the slide.

This also applies to projectiles like Goku's Kamehameha and Piccolo's Homing Energy Blast, but the later case is more difficult to take advantage of since the projectile will shatter the instant it touches an opponent.

Cinematic Attacks

A lot of moves will change properties when they hit at certain part of the move. These changes can only be triggered by the current point character, upon hitting the opponent's point character, and must either start or be done inside a combo.

Enabling or disabling specific followups
Example: j.L on air-to-air hit will enable j.LL. Majin Buu's Dive Bomb will only trigger its ground splash part of the move if the dive part whiffs.
Auto-followups
Automatically perform extra attacks, these attacks are still cancellable.
Example: Cell's Perfect Attack, if the opponent is hit by the second hit, he will do a third hit.
Cinematic sequences
Either automatically do extra attacks, or completely change how much damage the move does the instance it lands.
During a cinematic, both players become invincible to all other attacks, cannot use Z Assist, and cannot cancel the animation until after it's finished.
Example: Frieza's 5LLL, on cinematic hit it does 1000 damage, but upon hitting Z Assist it will only do 400 damage.

All 3 of these aren't mutually exclusive, going back to Cell's Perfect Attack, the M version on hit will automatically do the second hit, if that hit lands he will do the third hit, and finally if that one lands it can be a cinematic one.

Smash

The "Smash!" prompt appears upon hitting with 5LLL, the universal cinematic attack

Cinematic version of attacks typically triggers on hit and have higher damage, better properties, does more hitstun, with some cinematics having stricter trigger conditions like only triggering at close range, having to be cancelled into from another move, etc. However, there are different types of cinematic, and they can interact with one another like enabling or preventing other cinematics from triggering. A move can even have multiple cinematics with different their properties. This is the "Smash" system and can be explained as follow.

There are 2 types of cinematic attacks - Smash:

Type U: These usually knock the opponent up into the air or sideways into a wall bounce.

Type U+: These are "launchers," a subset of type U. They have an added property of enabling some type D to get their Smash within the same combo. This property only applies to the first U Smash of the combo.

Type D: These usually send the opponent down and are accompanied with sliding knockdowns.

Type D+: Subset of type D that requires an U+ Smash used previously in the combo to trigger its Smash property. More on this will be described below.

On top of different types, each Smash attack also have limited number of times they can trigger per combo:

1. Only triggers if no Smash of the same type has been used.

2. Triggers even if the same type has been used, but only once.

3. Always triggers.

While most attacks only have one Smash and one normal version, there are attacks that have more than one Smash versions, and will use the corresponding one depending on the conditions.

Type D+ Smash

The in-depth conditions to get Smash property for type D+ moves are as follows:

  • The opponent must be hit with a type U+ Smash that still has its "launching" property.
  • Afterward, you're not allowed to re-enter neutral stance on the ground. Meaning:
  • If you're grounded, you must cancel the Smash move's recovery frames with another action, such as Super Dash or other special moves. No jumping unless you can cancel into it, no grounded Sparking! activation since you're forced to land afterward.
  • If you're airborne, you mustn't land. Though using special moves that teleport you back to the ground are still OK, so as long as their recovery frames are cancelled into something else. Similarly, landing recovery frames from aerial attacks can also be cancelled to maintain D+ Smash.

Smash consumption

Using a U type Smash move will prevent further U1 Smash. Similarly, using a D type Smash will also block further D1 Smash. There are also multi-type Smash. For example: a Smash attack type UD1 on hit will prevent further usage of both type U1 and D1, however, it can only be triggered if neither type has been used in the combo.

Despite this, there are attacks that block Smash's usage despite not having a Smash version, or belong to one type but blocks the Smash of another. The most common instances of this are attacks that "consume" U1, D1 Smash, and the U2 Smash of Vanish. This specific consumption of Smash is denoted by UDV, and is put next to the Smash type the move actually belongs to.

Overall

Here are some run downs on typical Smash attacks:

  • 5LLL is type U3+. As noted above, its launching property only applies if it's the first U Smash of the combo, subsequent uses do not activate D+ Smash.
  • 5H and some j.2H are type U1.
  • 2H and most j.2H are type U1+.
  • Most j.H are type D1+.
  • Most 5LLLLLLL are type D2+.
  • Special moves can vary from all types of Smash.
  • Vanish is type U2.
  • Dragon Rush is type U+ if landed raw, but consumes type UDV if performed mid-combo.
  • Tag Guard Cancel doesn't trigger cinematic but consumes type UDV.
  • Solo Guard Cancel and Sparking Blast do not consume Smash.
  • Super and Meteor Attacks can vary from different Smash types, but they all consume type UDV.

Hit Effects

Wall and Ground Bounce

Outside of hitstun and untechable time, certain moves will have bonus properties and a second untechable time if the opponent touches a surface before getting hit again, this second untech time is not affected by hitstun decay. One type causes the opponent to "bounce" back at you allowing for combo extension, the other type will cause some form of knockdown, allowing for okizeme.

Generally, wall bounce only comes from type U Smash moves, with the prime examples being 5H and Vanish, while ground bounce can come from all kinds of attacks. Bounce effects can also be combined with each other and with knockdown effects, meaning a move can cause both ground bounce and wall bounce, or ground bounce and sliding knockdown.

For wall bounce, how much the opponent bounces back depends on the moves. Some moves will cause a big bounce that sends the opponent back to midscreen, while some will keep them at the edge of the screen, meaning they allow a wide variety of followups in the corner, but almost nothing without the help of assists when used midscreen, vice versa for the big bounce.

Another variation of wall bounce is corner bounce, which only causes a wall bounce in the corner.

Knockdowns

There are a variety of knockdowns:

  • Soft knockdown: The opponent can ground-tech as soon as they touch the ground. This is the default "knockdown" state for all attacks, though usually when a move is stated to "cause a soft knockdown" means it has long hitstun that forces the opponent to land on the ground.
  • Sliding knockdown: Although they won't always visibly "slide", upon making ground contact, the second untechable time keeps them on the ground and they will be vulnerable to Off The Ground attacks. Afterward, they will be able to ground-tech, but cannot combine the delay wakeup tech with any other tech options like they can with a soft knockdown. This type usually comes from type D Smash moves and Super Attacks.
  • Hard knockdown: The opponent isn't vulnerable to OTG moves during the second untech-time, but cannot ground-tech and is forced to stand up as soon as the untech-time ends. This type only comes from Meteor Attacks.

Crumpled

Almost of a leftover, this state is very rare to come by:

  • The opponent is stunned and forced to slowly lay down, this duration isn't affected by hitstun decay.
  • During this lying down time, they are throw invulnerable.
  • Upon fully laid down, they are forced to ground tech immediately.

Golden Frieza's deactivation is similar to this state, with a few differences:

  • He's vulnerable to throw during the fall, but he can break Dragon Rush.
  • Upon fully laid down, enters a hard knockdown state.

Off The Ground (OTG)

While rare, some moves can hit the opponent during their sliding knockdown state.

All Super and Meteor Attacks can hit OTG. This makes it very easy to add extra damage at the end of combos, so as long as you have Ki gauges to spend.

Vegeta's "I have no use for Saiyans that can't move" and Broly's (DBS) "Gigantic Heave" are the only special moves capable of OTG.

Hitstop

When an attack hits an object, both objects freeze in place briefly to give the attack the feeling of more impact. This effect is known as hitstop and can vary in duration, like SS Goku's 5L compared to his Dragon Flash Fist (236X). Hitstop helps with combo consistency because you can buffer commands like special cancels during hitstop and it will be executed immediately after hitstop ends.

Hitstop applies to anything that can attack or get hit - including projectiles and assists. We will refer to all of these as "objects" for the sake of brevity.

Objects experiencing hitstop are frozen in place, but other objects on the stage are unaffected. For example, when Goku's projectile hits the opponent, Goku does not experience hitstop, only the projectile and the opponent do. From Goku's perspective, the hitstop the opponent experiences can be thought of as additional blockstun/hitstun!

Uneven Hitstop

When an attack hits an objects, both usually experience the same amount of hitstop, but this is not always true. Some attacks deal different amounts of hitstop on hit vs block, or normal vs counter hit.

Armor and Parry Stances

Attacks with armor and parry-type attacks are attacks that guard the opponent's attack before retaliating with their own. When these attacks guard the opponent's attack, they can also change how much hitstop each object experiences! This is why some counter type attacks can beat safe jumps; they force the attacker into enough uneven hitstop that the defender can attack before the attacker can reach the ground and guard!

Jiren's H Shock Tornado (214H) is an example of this.

Projectiles

As mentioned above, projectiles are considered separate objects from the character that summoned them, so when they hit other objects, the character doesn't experience hitstop. The projectile itself does experience hitstop - which explains why multihit projectiles don't do their hits one frame after the other, they need to wait for hitstop to end before they can hit the opponent again!


Miscellaneous Hitstop Notes
Amount of Hitstop
The amount of hitstop an attack deals depends on its attack level, but certain attacks can override these default values.
Getting Hit While in Hitstop
Hitstop does not confer any invincibility - your state carries over from what you were doing before. If you were invincible/hitstun/blockstun before hitstop, then you will still be in that state during hitstop. If you are hit while in hitstop, then the previous hitstop ends and the new hitstop begins.
Hitting Assist Characters
Neither you nor the assist experience hitstop.

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