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* Ki Blasts are very fast and surprisingly good at controlling space in neutral.
* Ki Blasts are very fast and surprisingly good at controlling space in neutral.
* His ability to convert into his okizeme game is excellent, due to having good specials that can lead to his corner carry, which helps against his inability to afflict sliding knockdown.
* His ability to convert into his okizeme game is excellent, due to having good specials that can lead to his corner carry, which helps against his difficulty to cause a sliding knockdown.
* Very strong pressure game with fast normals, rekkas, and command grabs.
* Very strong pressure game with fast normals, rekkas, and command grabs.
* Absurdly high damage when he has the resources to burn, especially in the corner.
* Absurdly high damage when he has the resources to burn, especially in the corner.
* Big Bang Attack is the non-super-projectile with the highest priority in the game.
* Big Bang Attack is the non-super-projectile with the highest priority in the game.
* All of his specials are excellent combo finishers and are easy to combo into.
* All of his specials are excellent combo finishers and are easy to combo into.
* Can easily punish grounded zoning with 214H.
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* Loses to strong aerial zoning; has to take risks in order to close the distance with opponents.
* Loses to strong aerial zoning; has to take risks in order to close the distance with opponents.
* Cannot inflict sliding knockdown from some of his starters, making it very difficult to maintain offensive momentum at .
* Cannot inflict sliding knockdown from some of his starters, making it very difficult to maintain offensive momentum.
* Stubby limbs causes him to have very short range.
* Stubby limbs causes him to have very short range.
* Because of the long startup on Big Bang Attack, he generally loses at range.  
* Because of the long startup on Big Bang Attack, he generally loses at range.  
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* Whiffs on crouching opponents
* Whiffs on crouching opponents
* Deflects ki-blasts
* Deflects Ki Blasts
* Causes a soft knockdown
* Causes a soft knockdown
* If it whiff, Vegeta can move after it
* If it whiffs, Vegeta can move after it
* No more than one command grab can be used in a single combo


Command grab which can catch opponents who are reflect-happy or who block high, expecting IAD oki. Can also be especially deadly as an offensive tool in pressure against low-life characters whom are desperate to tag out, but blocking low (making the grab whiff) is a natural response upon wake-up and it is very susceptible to patient and tempered opponents who can 2H in response, and, which makes this move a gamble. Due to having shorter knockdown, it lacks the oki options of stronger versions and cannot be combo'd after. Since the move doesn't block Vegeta in a recovery state after it whiff while leaving him at a low distance from the ground, he can either do an air dash to use j.L in a safe jump situation, or just fall and use 2L, making it an extremely scary mix up tools with an assist ( since it  doesn't cause any block stun ).
Command grab which can catch opponents who are reflect-happy or who block high, expecting IAD oki. Can also be especially deadly as an offensive tool in pressure against low-life characters whom are desperate to tag out, but blocking low (making the grab whiff) is a natural response upon wake-up and it is very susceptible to patient and tempered opponents who can 2H in response, and, which makes this move a gamble. Due to having shorter knockdown, it lacks the oki options of stronger versions and cannot be combo'd after. Since the move doesn't put SSGSS Vegeta in a recovery state after it whiffs while leaving him at a low distance from the ground, he can either do an air dash to use j.L in a safe jump situation, or just fall and use 2L, making it an extremely scary mixup tool with an assist.




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* Travels moderately upward
* Travels moderately upward
* Deflects ki-blasts
* Deflects Ki Blasts
* Causes a soft knockdown
* Causes a soft knockdown
* If it whiffs, Vegeta can move after it
* No more than one command grab can be used in a single combo


Used to catch opponents wanting to jump out of SSGSS Vegeta's pressure, and unlike the L version, can be followed up after with certain fast assists which can pick up opponents off the ground. Also provides better oki, but pops the opponents in the air allowing for an air recovery. Due to the upward trajectory, it has the most use has a combo-ender after Vanish, but is also a cheeky option for incoming opponents after a forced tag-out. Allows Vegeta to directly apply pressure by jumping if the opponent up tech or back tech, with a meaty j.M and can freely move if it whiff, just like the L version.
Used to catch opponents wanting to jump out of SSGSS Vegeta's pressure, and unlike the L version, can be followed up after with certain fast assists which can pick up opponents off the ground. Also provides better oki, but pops the opponents in the air allowing for an air recovery. Due to the upward trajectory, it has the most use has a combo-ender after Vanish, but is also a cheeky option for incoming opponents after a forced tag-out. Allows Vegeta to directly apply pressure by jumping if the opponent up tech or back tech, with a meaty j.M and can freely move if it whiff, just like the L version.
NOTE: No more than one command grab can be used in a single combo, for any version.


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* Whiffs on crouching opponents
* Whiffs on crouching opponents
* Wallbounces
* Wallbounces
* Deflects ki-blasts
* Deflects Ki Blasts
* Causes a hard knockdown
* If it whiffs, Vegeta can move after it
* No more than one command grab can be used in a single combo


Great air ender that carries to the corner and gives SSGSS Vegeta more variety and better oki options, and generally used in combos to retain corner advantage, sacrificing combo damage. Like the M version, can be followed up with assists for an extension, and is much more generous in hitstun for slower assists to connect. Since it also whiffs on crouchers like the L version, it is not any more useful than its L version counterpart to hit an opponent, but it leaves a little more height than 214L and thus allow to use j.M instead of j.L after an air dash, leading to better damage, but it is reactable.  
Great air ender that carries to the corner and gives SSGSS Vegeta more variety and better oki options, and generally used in combos to retain corner advantage, sacrificing combo damage. Like the M version, can be followed up with assists for an extension, and is much more generous in hitstun for slower assists to connect. Since it also whiffs on crouchers like the L version, it is not any more useful than its L version counterpart to hit an opponent, but it leaves a little more height than 214L and thus allow to use j.M instead of j.L after an air dash, leading to better damage, but it is reactable.  


214H will travel the same amount of distance as the L version but will do so with greater speed, which can surprise opponents before they have a response or catch them performing moves which either have slow startup or lack upper-body invincibility. Because it also provides knockdown and corner carry like other versions, a single instance of this move can quickly change the momentum into SSGSS Vegeta's favor, allowing him to have a meaty set up regardless of the opponent's reaction, making this move very threatening in neutral and good as a combo ender.
214H will travel the same amount of distance as the L version but will do so with greater speed, which can surprise opponents before they have a response or catch them performing moves which either have slow startup or lack upper-body invincibility. Because it also provides knockdown and corner carry like other versions, a single instance of this move can quickly change the momentum into SSGSS Vegeta's favor, allowing him to have a meaty set up regardless of the opponent's reaction, making this move very threatening in neutral and good as a combo ender.
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The delay that comes with the move makes it sub-par in neutral, but allows it to be abused in blockstrings and in pressure, especially in the corner. When SSGSS Vegeta is called out when facing the corner, instead of staying close to the active character, he will perform it much farther away, making it near impossible for the opponent to hurt him and cancel the animation, and scaring them into blocking.
The delay that comes with the move makes it sub-par in neutral, but allows it to be abused in blockstrings and in pressure, especially in the corner. When SSGSS Vegeta is called out when facing the corner, instead of staying close to the active character, he will perform it much farther away, making it near impossible for the opponent to hurt him and cancel the animation, and scaring them into blocking.
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* Can hold down the buttons to only perform a wallbounce
* Can hold down the buttons to only perform a wallbounce
* Not invincible until after startup
* Not invincible until after startup
* Travels near full screen
* Travels near fullscreen


Comes out very quickly, has invulnerability, and allows for a free combo, making it a great punish to anything except aerial moves, but it is not a true reversal. Countering other supers will occasionally require the preemptive input of this move in order for the super flash to appear second. Using the canceled version as a punish after a reflect is extremely effective, as it travels a great distance really fast, especially if assists are here to add more damage.  
Comes out very quickly, has invulnerability, and allows for a free combo, making it a great punish to anything except aerial moves, but it is not a true reversal. Countering other supers will occasionally require the preemptive input of this move in order for the super flash to appear second. Using the canceled version as a punish after a reflect is extremely effective, as it travels a great distance really fast, especially if assists are available to add more damage.  


Since it grounds the opponent, certain supers which require characters to be close can properly connect, making this a very good move to DHC out of.
Since it grounds the opponent, certain supers which require characters to be close can properly connect, making this a very good move to DHC out of.
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* Fires diagonally upward
* Fires diagonally upward


Because of it's trajectory, it is not a particularly useful move to DHC. Seldom used for anything beyond confirming off of 236S, or being a much safer and faster super for SSGSS Vegeta to DHC out of combat.
Because of its trajectory, it is not a particularly useful move to DHC. Seldom used for anything beyond confirming off of 236S, or being a much safer and faster super for SSGSS Vegeta to DHC out of combat.
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Revision as of 15:53, 30 April 2018

Vegeta (SSGSS)
DBFZ SSB Vegeta Portrait.png

Health: 10,000

Prejump:

Assist Cooldown:

Movement Options
Double Jump, Super Jump, 1 Airdash, Dash Type: Run
Play-style
Rushdown, Hyper Offense, Rekka
  

Overview

Not to be outdone by Goku, Vegeta has trained alongside his Saiyan rival under the tutelage of Beerus, the God of Destruction. Both he and Goku have attained the power of the "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan".

In Dragon Ball FighterZ, this version of Vegeta fights similarly to his original form, attacking aggressively while closing the distance to pummel his foes into submission. However, in exchange for his increased close-range prowess, his defensive options are rather subpar.

Strengths/Weaknesses

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Ki Blasts are very fast and surprisingly good at controlling space in neutral.
  • His ability to convert into his okizeme game is excellent, due to having good specials that can lead to his corner carry, which helps against his difficulty to cause a sliding knockdown.
  • Very strong pressure game with fast normals, rekkas, and command grabs.
  • Absurdly high damage when he has the resources to burn, especially in the corner.
  • Big Bang Attack is the non-super-projectile with the highest priority in the game.
  • All of his specials are excellent combo finishers and are easy to combo into.
  • Loses to strong aerial zoning; has to take risks in order to close the distance with opponents.
  • Cannot inflict sliding knockdown from some of his starters, making it very difficult to maintain offensive momentum.
  • Stubby limbs causes him to have very short range.
  • Because of the long startup on Big Bang Attack, he generally loses at range.
  • Little to no defensive options; his only reversal is very expensive.
  • One of the most situational assists in the game. Can be very unreliable when supporting blockstrings.


Normals

5L
5L
DBFZ SSBVegeta 5L.png
DBFZ SSBVegeta 5LL.png
DBFZ SSBVegeta 5LLL.png
400 All - 6 3 - - 700 All - 8 3 - - 1000 All - 13 3 - -
5M
5M
DBFZ SSBVegeta 5M.png
700 All - 9 6 - -
5H
5H
DBFZ SSBVegeta 5H.png
850 All - 14 3 - -
5S
5S
DBFZ SSBVegeta 5S.png
500 All - 13 - -
2L
2L
DBFZ SSBVegeta 2L.png
400 L - 7 3 - -
2M
2M
DBFZ SSBVegeta 2M.png
WHAT ARE THOOOOOSE
700 L - 10 4 - -
2H
2H
DBFZ SSBVegeta 2H.png
850 All - 13 2 - -
2S
2S
DBFZ SSBVegeta 2S.png
500 All - 13 - -
6M
6M
850 H - 24 6 - -
j.L
j.L
DBFZ SSBVegeta jL.png
400 H - - -
j.M
j.M
DBFZ SSBVegeta jM.png
700 H - - -
j.H
j.H
DBFZ SSBVegeta jH.png
850 H - - -
j.S
j.S
DBFZ SSBVegeta jS.png
500 All - - -
j.2H
j.2H
DBFZ SSBVegeta j2H.png
850 All - - -
j.2S
j.2S
DBFZ SSBVegeta j2S.png
500 All - - -

Specials

Super Dash Kick
Super Dash Kick
236L/M/H (Air OK)
DBFZ SSBVegeta SuperDashKick.png
500 All - 12 3 - - 500 All - 15 3 - - 600 All - 11 4 - -
Super Dash Kick Followup 1
Super Dash Kick Followup 1
Super Dash Kick > L/M/H
DBFZ SSBVegeta SuperDashKickFollowup1.png
500 All - 10 3 - - 572 All - 17 (3)(3)(3) - - 600 All - 10 3 - -
Super Dash Kick Followup 2
Super Dash Kick Followup 2
Super Dash Kick Followup 1 > L/M/H
DBFZ SSBVegeta SuperDashKickFollowup2.png
500 All - 12 6 - - 600 All - 18 6 - - 700 All - 16 8(on whiff) 15(on hit) - -
On a Scale of One to Ten, I'll Give You a Three
On a Scale of One to Ten, I'll Give You a Three
214L/M/H (Air OK)
DBFZ SSBVegeta OnAScaleOfOneToTen.png
Dunk em in the TRAAAASH
1200 Throw - 25 1 - - 1200 Throw - 22 5 - - 1560 Throw - 20 5 - -
Big Bang Attack
Big Bang Attack
236S(Air OK)
DBFZ SSBVegeta BigBangAttack.png
1300[1240] All - 14 - - 1300[1240] All - - -

Assist

Big Bang Attack
A1/A2
800[660] All - - -

Supers

Niagara Pummel
Niagara Pummel
236L+M
DBFZ SSBVegeta NiagaraPummel.png
"EEEEEEYAAAAAAAAH"
DBFZ SSBVegeta NiagaraPummel-2.png
"You're finished!"
2210 All - - -
Galick Gun
Galick Gun
236H+S
DBFZ SSBVegeta GalickGun.png
"Never understimate..."
DBFZ SSBVegeta GalickGun-2.png
"...a Saiyan's true power!"
2050 All - - -
Final Flash
Final Flash
214L+M or 214H+S (Air OK)
DBFZ SSBVegeta FinalFlash.png
"You're as good as space dust!"
DBFZ SSBVegeta FinalFlash2.png
DBFZ SSBVegeta FinalFlashAttack.png
"WORTHLESS PIECE OF JUNK!"
3982 All - - - 1540 All - - -

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