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==Overview==
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|content=One of the few people to have ever beaten Son Goku in a fight, '''Tien''' enters into the FighterZ ring as a character with some very scary tools up his sleeve. Much of Tien's gameplan is based around "sacrificing" resources to further increase his damage and knock out his opponents in a final, desperate blast. Tien's [[#Tri-Beam|Tri-Beam]] Supers are well-known for the incredible amount of damage they can dish out, and his [[#Neo Tri-Beam|Neo Tri-Beam]] Level 3 can be used as a full seven meter dump, allowing it to be one of the highest damage super attacks in the entire game, and can be almost certain death for your opponents.  
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| name = Tien
Tien's Supers come with a steep cost, however - each Tri-Beam that Tien fires takes chunks out of his health, and Neo Tri-Beam in particular will tear through the triclops' health like nobody's business... unless Tien is in Level 3 Sparking and/or Limit Break. In that case many of the side-effects of his Supers are not only drastically lessened, but the damage output is also amplified. As for his non-Tri-Beam Super, [[#Farewell, Tien...|Farewell, Tien...]] can only be used once, and landing a hit with it will prevent him from using [[#Telekinesis|Telekinesis]] and his [[#Assist B| B assist.]] Regardless, it is the most powerful Super at full scaling, and these downsides are put in place because of its power.  
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| quote = There's a certain degree of luck involved in battle. But I can't rely on that. I need to train more.
Outside of his supers, Tien is a straightforward character with a solid number of tools to help him hold his own. He has some decent mix-up game and powerful oki while solo ([[#Telekinesis|Telekinesis]] can put the opponent on block anywhere shortly after a sliding knockdown), and he offers a respectable amount of utility with his assists, each with their own utilities in neutral scrambles, blockstring safety, and combo game. His [[#Dodon Ray|Dodon Ray]] special has the unique property of allowing Tien to fall to the ground while using it, making it a very irritating poke and letting Tien approach somewhat safely. Lastly, because Sparking! enables jump-cancelling during blockstrings, [[#Air Volleyball Fist|Air Volleyball Fist]] becomes a near-unreactable overhead using the Tiger-Knee motion and a great mix-up option.
| lore = Tien Shinhan is a student of the Crane School and was one of Goku's greatest childhood rivals. A descendant of the Three-Eyed People, Tien has access to several unique techniques due to his heritage, including the Multi-Form. Accompanied by his doll-like companion, Chiaotzu, Tien has continued to pursue strength as a martial artist throughout the series. During the Saiyan, Cell, and even Buu sagas, Tien played secondary though important roles in the final outcomes.
 
If you've read up to this point, then it should be clear by now that this Overview is screaming at you to put Tien in the anchor slot. Let it be known that playing Tien outside of the anchor position is asking for trouble: not only can he perform well enough on his own to survive without assists, but the health drain from his [[#Tri-Beam|Tri-Beam]] Supers are near nonexistent when Limit Break and Sparking are activated. This means that a Point or Mid Tien will struggle to maximize his damage without either hurting himself too much or missing out on finishing opponents due to a lack of sufficient meter. Tien is built to be the last man standing on your team, and if you can succeed in accommodating for his penalties, you gain access to a truly frightening anchor.  
 
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| intro = {{Character Label|DBFZ|Tien}} is a balanced, stalwart character that with resources, has insane damage potential with Super Moves.
|intro=is a balanced, stalwart character that - using resources - has insane damage potential with his Super Moves.
| pros =
|pros=
* '''Solid Mix-ups:''' Has multiple quick lows, an overhead, and a command grab.  
* '''Solid Mix-ups:''' Has multiple quick lows, an overhead, a command grab, and special moves with guardpoint.  
* '''Super Damage:''' All his Supers boast some of the highest damage in the game even after scaling and efficient meterburn options in both kinds of Tri-Beams.
* '''Super Damage:''' All his Supers boast among the highest minimum damage in the game (even after scaling), along with efficient meterburn options.
* '''Sparking! Upgrades:''' Sparking! more than halves the HP loss for Tri-Beams and also unlocks [[DBFZ/Tien#Air Volleyball Fist|j.236H]]'s use as an instant blockstring overhead.
* '''Upgrades:''' Limit Break and Sparking do a lot to mitigate the health penalties from Tri-Beams, and the latter unlocks [[#Air Volleyball Fist|j.236H]] as an instant overhead.  
* '''Potential Damage:''' Multipliers like Limit Break/Sparking! in tandem with Supers enable Tien to inflict massive damage off single conversions.
* '''Assist Variety:''' [[#Assist A| A]] is good for neutral, [[#Assist B| B]] is nice in blockstrings and builds a little bar. Both are useful for combos.
* '''Full-screen Okizeme:''' [[DBFZ/Tien#Telekinesis|Telekinesis]] can put the opponent on block anywhere shortly after a sliding knockdown.
|cons=  
* '''Assist Variety:''' [[DBFZ/Tien#Assist A| A]] is good for neutral, [[DBFZ/Tien#Assist B| B]] is nice in blockstrings, and both are useful for combo extensions.
|cons =  
* '''Honest:''' Buttons are stubby, and has no reliably safe approach options in neutral.
* '''Meter Hog:''' Unremarkable damage without bar, and unreasonable to place in a position outside Anchor.
* '''Meter Hog:''' Unremarkable damage without bar, and unreasonable to place in a position outside Anchor.
* '''Ability Loss:''' [[DBFZ/Tien#Farewell, Tien...|Farewell, Tien...]] can only be used once, and after usage, Tien loses access to [[DBFZ/Tien#Telekinesis|214S]] and its ability to be an assist.
* '''Flawed Assists:''' [[#Assist A| A]] has very little blockstun and [[#Assist B| B]] has very poor tracking in neutral while dealing no damage.
* '''Flawed Assists:''' [[DBFZ/Tien#Assist A| A]] has very little blockstun and [[DBFZ/Tien#Assist B| B]] has very poor tracking in neutral while dealing no damage; they can be outclassed by other similar anchor assists.
* '''White Bread:''' Tien's simplicity gets the best of him. His neutral, blockstrings, oki, and combos are very straightforward, sometimes to a detriment
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==Normal Moves==
==Normal Moves==
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">5L</font>======
===<big>{{clr|L|5L}}</big>===
{{MoveData
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|name=5L
|input=5L,5LL,5LLL
|image=DBFZ_Tien_5L.png |caption=
|description=
|image2=DBFZ_Tien_5LL.png |caption2=
;{{clr|L|5L}}
|image3=DBFZ_Tien_5LLL.png |caption3=Gentle Fist Eight Trigrams Sixty Four Palms!
* Larger range than average.
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* 6 frames.
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;{{clr|L|5LL}}
{{AttackVersion|name=5L}}
* Good forward momentum for long range confirms.
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|5L}}
* 2 hits, which also helps with confirms.
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{{Description|9|text=
;{{clr|L|5LLL}}
* It has a little bit more range than most 5L, albeit slightly.
* Gimmicky place to sneak in a command grab, but you can also sneak in a low with {{clr|L|236L}}/{{clr|M|M}}.
* Has enough blockstun to safely switch Tien out to another character while the move is still active.
{{clr|L|5LLL}} is a standard fair LLL launcher, does 9 hits allowing more time to think through next step than LLL usually allows if you ended up mashing it out. Usually you got this by accident.
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{{AttackVersion|name=5LL}}
 
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|5LL}}
===<big>{{clr|M|5M}}</big>===
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{{Description|9|text=
|input=5M
* Has good forward momentum for long range confirms.  
|description=
* Also does 2 hits, which also helps with confirms.
* Good forward reach.
* Reaches opponent on roundstart.
Excellent stagger pressure tool due to it's reach and frame advantage. Also a very consistent combo tool.
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{{AttackVersion|name=5LLL}}
 
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|5LLL}}
===<big>{{clr|H|5H}}</big>===
{{!}}-
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
{{Description|9|text=
|input=5H
* Standard fair LLL launcher, does 9 hits allowing more time to think through next step than LLL usually allows if you ended up mashing it out.
|description=
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">5M</font>======
{{MoveData
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|image=DBFZ_Tien_5M.png |caption=
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{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|5M}}
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{{Description|8|text=
* Slides forwards pretty far
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">5H</font>======
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|5H}}
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{{Description|8|text=
* Has good horizontal reach.
* Has good horizontal reach.
Mostly used in his optimal corner combos, otherwise does not see much play.
* Can link into {{clr|M|2M}} in the corner with Smash.
Mostly used in his optimal corner combos, otherwise does not see much play. Good as a blockstring tool and advances far forward.  
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">5S</font>======
===<big>{{clr|S|5S}}</big>===
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|5S}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|8|text=
* Slow recovery.
* Single projectile.
* Single projectile.
* Fairly mediocre.
Good pressure tool due to it's frame advantage and leads to a mindgame. {{clr|S|5S}} > delay {{clr|H|5H}} will catch buttons, and {{clr|S|5S}} > {{clr|L|5L}} will reset your string for more pressure. Not all that great in terms of neutral, as Tien has stronger projectiles in the air anyway.
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===<big>{{clr|L|2L}}</big>===
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
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* Can chain into itself.
This normal can sometimes whiff the 2nd time after a specific air normal, or depending on the size opponent you're facing. Otherwise, a good pressure button and helps Tien get mixups with lockdown assists.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">2L</font>======
 
{{MoveData
===<big>{{clr|M|2M}}</big>===
|name=2L
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|image=DBFZ_Tien_2L.png |caption=
|input=2M
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|description=
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* Fast startup, but short range.
{{!}}-
* -4 now allowing for better staggers than before.
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|2L}}
Punishes with this normal can be sometimes difficult due to it's short reach, but it gets the job done.
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* Incredibly active, making post vanish combos very easy to land.
{{Description|8|text=
* Can chain into itself but can sometimes whiff the 2nd time after a specific overhead, or what size opponent you're facing.  
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===<big>{{clr|H|2H}}</big>===
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* Frame 4 anti-air.
* Combos into SD on Smash hit.
Tien's main and only ground anti-air. Can cancel into {{clr|L|j.236L}} or Dodon Ray to stay safe if it is blocked.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">2M</font>======
 
{{MoveData
===<big>{{clr|M|6M}}</big>===
|name=2M
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|image=DBFZ_Tien_2M.png |caption=
|input=6M
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|2M}}
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{{Description|8|text=
* Fast startup.
* Short range.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">2H</font>======
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|2H}}
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{{Description|8|text=
* If blocked, can be cancelled into 236H for a surprise overhead with sliding knockdown.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">6M</font>======
{{MoveData
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{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
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{{Description|8|text=
* Universal overhead.
* Universal overhead.
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===<big>{{clr|L|j.L}}</big>===
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=j.L
|description=
Double overhead normal.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">j.L</font>======
 
{{MoveData
===<big>{{clr|M|j.M}}</big>===
|name=j.L
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|image=DBFZ_Tien_jL.png |caption=
|input=j.M
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{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.L}}
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{{Description|8|text=
* Once a hit has been blocked, the remaining hit can be blocked low.
Both hits count towards scaling, and subtracting one of them can even enable slightly more damage early in a combo. Subsequently, should only be used late into a combo to mitigate the extra scaling.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">j.M</font>======
{{MoveData
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{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.M}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|8|text=
* Good air to air normal.
* Good air to air normal.
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===<big>{{clr|H|j.H}}</big>===
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=j.H
|description=
Not used much as a combo ender, as {{clr|H|j.2H}} > {{clr|M|j.236M}} combos without smash and will always result in a sliding knockdown on it's first use. If you don't want the sliding knockdown, {{clr|H|j.2H}} > {{clr|L|j.236L}} has you covered too. {{clr|H|j.H}}'s only real purpose is as a high damage jump-in.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">j.H</font>======
 
{{MoveData
===<big>{{clr|S|j.S}}</big>===
|name=j.H
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|image=DBFZ_Tien_jH.png |caption=
|input=j.S
|data=
|description=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
* Stops Air momentum
{{!}}-
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.H}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|8|text=
* [] is on Smash hit.
Not used much as a combo ender, as j.2H > j.236M combos without smash and will always result in a sliding knockdown on it's first use. If you don't want the sliding knockdown, j.2H > j.236L has you covered too. j.H's only real purpose is as a high damage jump-in.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">j.S</font>======
{{MoveData
|name=j.S
|image=DBFZ_Tien_jS.png |caption=
|data=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
{{!}}-
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.S}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|8|text=
* Pushes Tien slightly away.
* Has decent angle.
* Has decent angle.
* Has enough hitstun to combo into superdash.
* Has enough hitstun to combo into superdash and Dodon Ray.
Can be used after Crane Strike on block after back dodge to cover yourself. Is still superdash-vulnerable so it's better not to overuse it.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">j.2H</font>======
===<big>{{clr|H|j.2H}}</big>===
{{MoveData
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
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|description=
|data=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
{{!}}-
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.2H}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|8|text=
* Combos into superdash on Smash hit.
* Combos into superdash on Smash hit.
* Combos into j.236X on non-Smash hit.
* Combos into j.236X on non-Smash hit.
Usually followed up by 236M for a sliding knockdown at the end of air combos. It's not fast enough for neutral use so you'll mostly see it in combos.
Usually followed up by {{clr|M|236M}} for a sliding knockdown at the end of air combos. It's not fast enough for neutral use so you'll mostly see it in combos.
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==Special Moves==
==Special Moves==
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Volleyball Fist</font>======
===<big>Volleyball Fist</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|L|236L}}/{{clr|M|M}}/{{clr|H|H}}'''}}
|name=Volleyball Fist
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=236L/M/H
|input=236L,236M,236H
|image=DBFZ_Tien_VolleyballFist-M.png |caption=M guardpoint
|description=
|image2=DBFZ_Tien_VolleyballFist.png |caption2=scoop
;{{clr|L|236L}}
|image3=DBFZ_Tien_VolleyballFist-H.png |caption3=H version
* Performs a sliding low attack.
|data=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=L}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236L}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Tien performs a sliding low attack.
* Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.
* Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.
The quick version of the Volleyball Fist. Useful for catching opponents off guard or spamming high attacks.
The quick version of the Volleyball Fist. Useful for catching opponents off guard or spamming high attacks.
}}
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{{AttackVersion|name=M}}
;{{clr|M|236M}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236M}}
* Strikes a pose, gaining guard point before doing a sliding low attack.
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Tien strikes a pose, gaining guard point before doing a sliding low attack.
* Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.
* Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.
* Guard point does not activate on frame 1, but it’s very early.
* Guard point does not activate on frame 1, but it’s very early on frame 4.
* Blocks projectiles, mid and low attacks.
* Blocks projectiles, mid, low, DP and overhead attacks. loses to supers
* Loses to throws, supers, and overheads, ironic since it's a volleyball bump.
* Due to having guard point, this version will scale your combos and followups more than L version.
* Due to having guard point, this version will scale your combos and followups more than L version.
* Reaches full-screen.
* Reaches full-screen.
Even though only the pose has guard point, successfully blocking incoming attack will make the slide invulnerable to strikes and projectiles that aren't Supers. If timed correctly, Tien can go right through beams.
* If used during your blockstring, it will block the opponents buttons if they attempt to mash out.
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Guard point is active when Tien enters the pose and remains for the very beginning of the slide. If Tien is hit while his guardpoint is active it extends to cover the rest of the move, allowing him to slide through beams and other large attacks. due to the move being unpunishable on block, this makes {{clr|M|236M}} good for stagger pressure or calling out an opponents offense.
{{AttackVersion|name=H}}
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236H}}
;{{clr|H|236H}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* A short ranged command grab that costs half a bar.
* A short ranged command grab that costs half a bar.
* Follow-up hits are automatic and cannot be vanished out of.
* Follow-up hits are automatic and cannot be vanished out of.
* Stays same side.
* Stays same side.
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Scales like 236M.
* Scales like {{clr|M|236M}}.
An useful tool to confuse someone who's blocking too much in a corner.
* Possesses a guardpoint like {{clr|M|236M}}, which blocks all the same types of attacks too.
An honest grab which is incredibly powerful thanks to its guardpoint, it can be used to create powerful conditioning on your opponent especially when combined with {{clr|M|236M}} and {{clr|H|j.236H}}, making the only options to counter is a large read with level 3, or incredible patience to jump at the right time, ultimately forcing them to respect your blockstrings.
 
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Volleyball Fist Follow-up 1</font>======
===<big>Volleyball Fist Follow-up 1</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|L|L}}/{{clr|M|M}} Volleyball Fist > {{clr|L|L}}/{{clr|M|M}}/{{clr|H|H}} on hit'''}}
|name=Volleyball Fist<br>Follow-up 1
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=Volleyball Fist L/M > L/M/H on hit
|input=236X > L,236X > M,236X > H
|image=DBFZ_Tien_VolleyballFist2.png |caption=
|description=
|data=
;All Versions
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
* Damage depends on what the starter is. {{clr|L|236L}} will scale better and do more damage than {{clr|M|236M}}.
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* Launches the enemy vertically and follows them into the air.
{{AttackVersion|name=L}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236X L}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
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{{AttackVersion|name=M}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236X M}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Switches side.
An important tool if you want to reposition yourself behind the enemy. Usually most useful if the "wall" behind you is closer than the one in front of you.
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{{AttackVersion|name=H}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236X H}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Leaves Tien enough time to land j.M.
By delaying button press so that Tien doesn't do Follow-up 2, you can start air combos with this. Very useful when you want to get a sliding knockdown with good oki, along with some relatively decent damage off a special move.
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* Damage depends on what the starter is. 236L will scale better and do more damage than 236M.
* All version launches the enemy vertically and follows them into the air.
* Pressing an additional button will cause Tien to slam the enemy to the ground.
* Pressing an additional button will cause Tien to slam the enemy to the ground.
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;{{clr|L|L}}
* Keeps your enemy in front of you.
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;{{clr|M|M}}
* Switches your enemy's side to the opposite of where they were before.
** An important tool if you want to reposition yourself behind the enemy. Usually most useful if the "wall" behind you is closer than the one in front of you.
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;{{clr|H|H}}
* Leaves Tien enough time to land {{clr|M|j.M}}.
** By delaying button press so that Tien doesn't do Follow-up 2, you can start air combos with this. Very useful when you want to get a sliding knockdown with good oki, along with some relatively decent damage off a special move.
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======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Volleyball Fist Follow-up 2</font>======
===<big>Volleyball Fist Follow-up 2</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''Volleyball Fist Follow-up 1 > {{clr|L|L}}/{{clr|M|M}}/{{clr|H|H}} on hit'''}}
|name=Volleyball Fist<br>Follow-up 2
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=Volleyball Fist Follow-up 1 > L/M/H on hit
|input=236X > X > L,236X > X > M,236X > X > H
|image=DBFZ_Tien_VolleyballFist3.png |caption=BOI
|description=
|data=
;All Versions
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
* Damage depends on what the starter is. Starting with {{clr|L|236L}} will do more damage than {{clr|M|236M}}.
{{!}}-
* If you time it perfectly, it does extra damage and builds exactly half a bar.
{{AttackVersion|name=L}}
* [] is on just frame.
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236X X L}}
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;{{clr|L|L}}
{{Description|9|text=
* Knocks the opponent straight down.
* Knocks the opponent straight down.
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{{AttackVersion|name=M}}
;{{clr|M|M}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236X X M}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Knocks the opponent a little further away than the L version.
* Knocks the opponent a little further away than the L version.
}}
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{{AttackVersion|name=H}}
;{{clr|H|H}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236X X H}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Knocks the opponent even further away into a sliding knockdown.  
* Knocks the opponent even further away into a sliding knockdown.  
* Using this after the H version of Follow-up 1 will keep Tien grounded for additional combos. Given that the cost for an EX special is now half of a bar instead of a full bar, and the damage done by this alone is considerable, it's probably worth going for this now.
* Using this after the H version of Follow-up 1 will keep Tien grounded for additional combos. Tien's damage skyrockets even further with this and hitting the just frame he gets this for half a bar rather than a full one.
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* Damage depends on what the starter is. Starts with 236L will do more damage than 236M.
* If you time it perfectly on any version, it does extra damage and has Smash property.
* [] is on just frame.
}}
}}
}}
 
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Air Volleyball Fist</font>======
===<big>Air Volleyball Fist</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|L|j.236L}}/{{clr|M|M}}/{{clr|H|H}}'''}}
|name=Air Volleyball Fist
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=j.236L/M/H
|input=j.236L,j.236M,j.236H
|image=DBFZ_Tien_VolleyballFist3.png |caption=
|description=
|data=
;All Versions
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
Being a decently sized attack and possessing a guardpoint (in {{clr|M|M}} and {{clr|H|H}} versions) this move can be used as a dominant air option beating an opponents buttons outright, or it can be used in blockstrings as an overhead by TK'ing {{clr|H|j.236H}} when in Sparking!. Like 236X on the ground, this move can be used to heavily condition your opponent, forcing them to respect your buttons rather than attempt to mash out.
{{!}}-
----
{{AttackVersion|name=L}}
;{{clr|L|L}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.236L}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Causes a soft knockdown.
* Causes a soft knockdown.
}}
----
{{AttackVersion|name=M}}
;{{clr|M|M}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.236M}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Brings Tien higher in the air to hit, whiffs if opponent is directly in front of Tien.
* Brings Tien higher in the air to hit, whiffs if opponent is directly in front of Tien.
* Can link from j.2H if smash has already been used.
* Can link from {{clr|H|j.2H}}.
}}
* Has a guardpoint on frame 4 which blocks overheads, lows, DP, projectiles, ki blasts and superdash. Loses to supers and {{clr|H|2H}}.
{{AttackVersion|name=H}}
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{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.236H}}
;{{clr|H|H}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Has a guardpoint on frame 4 like {{clr|M|j.236M}}, which can block all of the same attacks.
* Nearly unreactable overhead during Sparking! if you TK the move, but you can only continue pressure or use a Super if it lands since this immediately puts the opponent in sliding knockdown.
* Nearly unreactable overhead during Sparking! if you TK the move, but you can only continue pressure or use a Super if it lands since this immediately puts the opponent in sliding knockdown.
}}
}}
}}
 
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Crane Strike</font>======
===<big>Crane Strike</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|L|214L}}/{{clr|M|M}}/{{clr|H|H}} (Air OK)'''}}
|name=Crane Strike
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=214L/M/H (Air OK)
|input=214L,214M,214H,j.214L,j.214M,j.214H
|image=DBFZ_Tien_CraneStrike.png |caption=Yamcha's Big Break (i.e. his legs)
|description=
|data=
;All Versions
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
* Connects following {{clr|S|j.S}} in combos - only whiffing if the combo is too long.
{{!}}-
* Is {{clr|H|2H}}'able - making it unsafe without assist.
{{Description|9|text=
A useful overhead which can lead to mixups, it should be used sparingly as all versions are {{clr|H|2H}}'able on reaction. This can be used as you condition your opponent with guardpoints, in order to occasionaly steal turn or confuse them with a new attack. (still {{clr|H|2H}}'able).
* All versions pops Tien back upwards on block.
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* Light version pops Tien back upwards on hit.
;{{clr|L|214L}}
* Pops Tien back upwards on hit.
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;{{clr|M|214M}}
* Pops Tien foward on block, allowing for a potential high low mixup with airdash
** {{clr|M|j.214M}} crosses up on block if it hits high enough on the opponent, sometimes allowing for a left right mixup with airdash.
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;{{clr|H|214H}}
* Pops Tien foward on block, allowing the same mixup.
** {{clr|H|j.214H}} is also able to switch sides in the same way as {{clr|M|j.214M}}
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Brings Tien higher in the air to hit, whiffs if opponent is directly in front of Tien.
* Brings Tien higher in the air to hit. Whiffs if opponent is directly in front of Tien.
* Can link from j.2H if smash has already been used.
Mostly used at the end of corner combos to optimize damage, or as an overhead outside of Sparking! (still 2H'able).
}}
}}
{{AttackVersion|name=Ground L}}
 
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|214L}}
===<big>Dodon Ray</big>===
{{!}}-
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|S|236S}} (Air OK)'''}}
{{AttackVersion|name=Air L}}
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.214L}}
|input=236S,j.236S
{{!}}-
|description=
{{AttackVersion|name=Ground M}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|214M}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Air M}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.214M}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Ground H}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|214H}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Air H}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.214H}}
{{!}}-
}}
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Dodon Ray</font>======
{{MoveData
|name=Dodon Ray
|input=236S (Air OK)
|image=DBFZ_Tien_DodonRay.png |caption=A move originally developed to be superior to the Kamehameha.
|data=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Ground}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236S}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Air}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.236S}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Pops up the opponent.
* Pops up the opponent.
* Can be followed up with Superdash
* Despite only being 1 hit, this will still clash with other beams.
* Despite only being 1 hit, this will still clash with other beams.
Dodon Ray's thin hitbox leads it to be a poor neutral tool. It also gains a ton of recovery if it's used in the air, and the thin hitbox once again makes it hard to control airspace with. Being one hit, it also is harder to confirm than the average beam.
* If hit close enough, can link into either {{clr|M|5M}} or {{clr|L|j.L}} for extending combos.
Although Dodon Ray has a thin hitbox, Tien falls in the air while doing it, thus making it a scary neutral tool (you can stop him from falling with a {{Ni|2}} input). Able to be followed up with superdash.
}}
}}
===<big>Telekinesis</big>===
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|S|214S}}'''}}
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=214S,214S Fail
|description=
* Tracks the opponent anywhere on screen. Deals very high hitstop and hitstun on hit.
* Won't perform the move if Chiaotzu is still on screen or after he self-destructs.
* Every third use will not work and will leave Tien vulnerable.
* Beside the Ki gain on hit, normal calls also build 10% Ki gauge even on whiff and 25% on failed call. This special Ki gain is not affected by Ki gain penalty.
* Like other special moves, can be cancelled into by normals.
* On hit, can be converted into a solo combo anywhere on screen.
*Can be used after every knockdown, but best at the corner.
* Pressing S during startup cancels the move, can immediately act upon cancellation. Resets the amount of uses that would leave Tien vulnerable.
}}
}}
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Telekinesis</font>======
{{MoveData
|name=Telekinesis
|input=214S
|image=DBFZ_Tien_Telekinesis.png |caption=
|data=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Normal}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|214S}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Fail}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|214S Fail}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Requires Chiaotzu. Won't come out if Chiaotzu is still on screen or after he self-destructs.
* Every third use will not work and will leave Tien vulnerable.
Freezes the opponent in place, allowing for a follow-up combo on hit or Okizeme on block.


Can be used after every knockdown, but best at the corner.
}}
}}
==Z Assists==
==Z Assists==
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Assist A</font>======
===<big>Assist A</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''Dodon Ray'''}}
|name=Dodon Ray
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=Assist A
|input=Assist A
|image=DBFZ_Tien_AssistDodonRay.png |caption=
|description=
|data=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
{{!}}-
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|Assist A}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|8|text=
* Is very unique as a beam assist, since it pops the opponent up instead of sending them towards the wall, allowing for better midscreen confirms.
* Is very unique as a beam assist, since it pops the opponent up instead of sending them towards the wall, allowing for better midscreen confirms.
* Allows for longer combos due to the single hit compared to other multi hitting beam assists.
* Allows for longer combos due to the single hit compared to other multi hitting beam assists.
Better for combos than other beam assists, but much worse for blockstrings. Generally the preferred assist, but there are characters who like the tracking of Assist B.
Better for combos than other beam assists, but much worse for blockstrings. Generally the preferred assist, but there are characters who like the combo utility and blockstun of Assist B.
}}
}}
===<big>Assist B</big>===
{{InputBadge|'''Telekinesis'''}}
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=Assist B
|description=
* Does {{clr|S|214S}} but unlike the point version, this assist doesn't fail every third use.
* Builds 10% Ki Gauge each call. Is not affected by Ki gain penalty.
* After Chiaotzu self-destructs, Tien does not attack and only shows up to build meter.
Similar to Gotenks A assist as it holds opponent in place, allowing for vast utility to expand combos full-screen, help get sliding knockdowns or meterless snapbacks, and fortify pressure with its high blockstun. Rather slow start-up and has worse tracking than his own {{clr|S|214S}}, so needs some labbing and getting used to.
}}
}}
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Assist B</font>======
{{MoveData
|name=Telekinesis
|input=Assist B
|image=DBFZ_Tien_Telekinesis.png |caption= Oh '''NOW''' you don't mess up..
|data=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
{{!}}-
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|Assist B}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|8|text=
* 60 frames of hitstun.
* If Chiaotzu is killed by using Farewell, Tien..., the assist will not come out.
* The start-up of the move is 41 frames during combos, and 61 frames in neutral (much like all C assists).
* Builds 10% of a full bar.


Holds opponent in place, allowing for vast utility to expand combos full-screen, help get sliding knockdowns or meterless snapbacks, and fortify pressure with its high blockstun. Considerable start-up, so needs some labbing and getting used to.
===<big>Assist C</big>===
 
{{InputBadge|'''Volleyball Fist'''}}
A lot like Gotenks A assist, but overall worse because of it's long start-up, equally as bad neutral-tracking, and also does no damage.
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
 
You can get sone serious sauce with this assist. Slower than Gotenks but it will stop them anywhere on the screen with the right timing. Seriously just go to training mode and play around with it.
}}
}}
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Assist C</font>======
{{MoveData
|name=Volleyball Fist
|input=Assist C
|input=Assist C
|image=DBFZ_Tien_5LLL.png |caption=
|description=
|data=
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
{{!}}-
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|Assist C}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|8|text=
* Blockstun C assist.
* Blockstun C assist.
* Tracks to the opponent.
* Tracks to the opponent.
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Arguably the best of his assists. The tracking of Assist B may be better for some characters, but almost everyone can use a high-blockstun tracking assist.
Arguably the best of his assists. The tracking of Assist B may be better for some characters, but almost everyone can use a high-blockstun tracking assist.
}}
}}
}}
 
==Super Moves==
==Super Moves==
======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Tri-Beam</font>======
===<big>Tri-Beam</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|L|236L}}+{{clr|M|M}} (Air & Hold OK)'''}} or {{InputBadge|'''{{clr|H|236H}}+{{clr|S|S}} (Air & Hold OK)'''}}
|name=Tri-Beam
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=236L+M or 236H+S (Air OK)
|input=236L+M,236[L+M],j.236L+M,j.236[L+M]
|image=DBFZ_Tien_TriBeam.png |caption=
|description=
|image2=DBFZ_Tien_TriBeam-2.png |caption2=
;All Versions
|image3=DBFZ_Tien_TriBeam-3.png |caption3=Dodeca-Beam
* Deals unrecoverable 750 damage to Tien. Tien cannot die from self damage, and can use this even at 1 HP.
|data=
* Self damage decreases during Sparking or Limit Break, and becomes 0 with both activated ([[DBFZ/Tien/Frame_Data#Super_Moves|See here]])
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
* This is the second highest damaging Lv1 Super at max scaling, losing only to {{Character Label|DBFZ|Goku}}'s {{MMC|game=DBFZ|chara=Goku|input=Kaioken H+S Level 2|label=Kaioken x20}}
{{!}}-
Can be a bit tough to use sometimes due to the fixed angle and slightly delayed startup, especially after a DHC or in a combo with a lot of hitstun decay, so make sure you practice comboing into this.
{{AttackVersion|name=Ground}}
----
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236LM}}
;Tri-Beam
{{!}}-
* Minimum damage: 1032.
{{AttackVersion|name=Air}}
----
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.236LM}}
;Tri-Beam (Hold)
{{!}}-
* Hold {{clr|L|L}} or {{clr|M|M}} during Tri-Beam's startup to keep the Tiens lined up on the same side.
{{Description|9|text=
* Hold {{clr|H|H}} or {{clr|S|S}} during Tri-Beam's startup to have the Tiens shoot from both sides.
* Does unrecoverable 750 damage to Tien. Max uses 13-14 times before minimum HP is reached.
* Uses up another bar.
* Tien cannot die from self damage, and can use this even at 1 HP.
* Minimum damage: 1,032.
* If Tien is the only character left (Limit Break) Tien takes even less damage.
* If Tien is in Sparking!, he inflicts no damage to himself.
This is the second highest damaging Lv1 Super at max scaling, losing only to Base Goku's Kaioken x20.
}}
{{AttackVersion|name=Ground Extension}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|236[LM]}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Air Extension}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.236[LM]}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Hold L/M/H/S during Tri-Beam's startup for this version.
* L or M keeps the Tiens lined up on the same side, H or S shoots from both sides.
* Minimum damage: 1426.
* Minimum damage: 1426.
* If Tien is the only character left (Limit Break) Tien takes even less damage.
Can whiff sometimes on DHCs or high hitstun decay combos.
}}
}}
}}


======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Neo Tri-Beam</font>======
===<big>Neo Tri-Beam</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|L|214L}}+{{clr|M|M}} (Air & Hold OK)'''}}
|name=Neo Tri-Beam
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=214L+M (Air OK)
|input=214L+M,j.214L+M,214L+M > X
|image=DBFZ_Tien_NeoTriBeam.png |caption=''"Well ya know what...? F*ck power levels... F*ck Super Saiyans... '''AND F*CK YOU!'''"''
|description=
|image2=DBFZ_Tien_NeoTriBeam-2.png |caption2='''''"SHIIIIN KIKOOOUHOOOOU!!!'''''"
* Holding L/{{clr|M|M}}/{{clr|H|H}}/{{clr|S|S}} allows Tien to tack on additional damage at the cost of one meter per extension. Deals unrecoverable damage to Tien per use.  
|data=
* Self damage decreases during Sparking or Limit Break, and further decreases with both activated ([[DBFZ/Tien/Frame_Data#Super_Moves|See here]])
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ|version=yes}}
* Minimum damage: 1872, followed by 600 for every subsequent use.
{{!}}-
The big one. Tracks the opponent and leaves Tien next to them. Deals a godly amount of damage with a lot of bar, which is accentuated greatly if you have Limit Break and/or Sparking. If you're at max scaling in a combo, however, you'll probably prefer going for [[DBFZ/Tien#Farewell, Tien...|Farewell, Tien...]], unless it won't kill or you're going for style points, which is always a good option.
{{AttackVersion|name=Ground}}
 
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|214LM}}
This move simply being in the game is a good enough excuse to run Tien in anchor sometimes, providing insane damage off of DHC's that you can use often if the rest of your team isn't too meter hungry.
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Air}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|j.214LM}}
{{!}}-
{{AttackVersion|name=Additional Hits}}
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|214[LM]}}
{{!}}-
{{Description|9|text=
* Holding down the buttons allows him to tack on additional damage at the cost of one meter per extension. Deals unrecoverable damage to Tien per use.  
* Raw damage is 3600, then 900, 800, 700, and 600.
* Minimum damage is 1872, followed by 600 for every subsequent use.
* First hit does XXX damage to Tien, then XXX, XXXX, XXXX, and lastly XXXX.
* If Tien is the only character left (Limit Break) Tien takes even less damage.
* During Sparking! Tien inflicts no damage to himself.
Tien's high damage combo ender super. Tracks the opponent and puts Tien next to them. Tien cannot die from self damage, and can do the first beam even at 1 HP. If Tien doesn’t have enough health to continue, the Super will stop regardless of remaining meter.


}}
You can also just use this as a reaction to almost anything to close out a match, including supers, as Tien is offscreen while this move is playing out.
}}
}}


======<font style="visibility:hidden;font-size:0">Farewell, Tien...</font>======
===<big>Farewell, Tien...</big>===
{{MoveData
{{InputBadge|'''{{clr|H|214H}}+{{clr|S|S}}'''}}
|name=Farewell, Tien...
{{DBFZ_Move_Card
|input=214H+S
|input=214H+S
|image=DBFZ_Tien_FarewellTien.png |caption=''"Thank you... for everything!"''
|description=
|image2=DBFZ_Tien_FarewellTien-2.png |caption2='''''"CHIAOTZUUUUU!!!"'''''
* Travels in a straight horizontal line, level with the enemy when the move is initiated. Whiffs on crouching characters.
|data=
* Won't come out if Chiaotzu is still doing Telekinesis. Chiaotzu also goes away if Tien is hit during the attack.
{{AttackDataHeader-DBFZ}}
* On hit, Telekinesis, B Assist, and this super become unavailable for the rest of the match.
{{!}}-
* Like other super moves, can be cancelled into by normals and special moves.
{{#lst:{{PAGENAME}}/Data|214HS}}
* Minimum damage: 2610.
{{!}}-
Absurdly high damaging combo ender but lacks the versatility of his other Supers.
{{Description|8|text=
* Travels in a straight horizontal line, level with the enemy when the move is initiated.
* Cannot be cancelled into but can be comboed into.
* Grab Super that hits aerial opponents, but whiffs on crouching ones.
* Won't come out if Chiaotzu is still doing Telekinesis.
* After landing, Telekinesis, Telekinesis Assist, and this super become unavailable for the rest of the match.  
* Gives a one time 4-way mixup anywhere on screen
* Minimum damage is 2160. This is the highest damaging Lv3 Super at max scaling, disregarding meterburn Level 3s or Android 16's Self-Destruct.
While the maximum output of this super is lower than Neo Tri-beam, the damage scaling on this move makes it an absurd combo finisher.  


On hit, plays a really long grieving animation after the explosion that doesn't freeze time, allowing Sparking opponents to regenerate their health. This along with the low raw damage makes the Super useless for damage if they survive.
}}
==Colors==
{{DBFZColors}}


'''Important note''', when this is used on an opponent in Sparking! and they live, the grieving animation doesn't stop their Sparking! regeneration, leaving most of their health recovered by the time of their wakeup. This makes the Super useless for damage if they survive.
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}}
==Navigation==
==Navigation==
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Latest revision as of 05:11, 13 December 2023

Overview

Overview

One of the few people to have ever beaten Son Goku in a fight, Tien enters into the FighterZ ring as a character with some very scary tools up his sleeve. Much of Tien's gameplan is based around "sacrificing" resources to further increase his damage and knock out his opponents in a final, desperate blast. Tien's Tri-Beam Supers are well-known for the incredible amount of damage they can dish out, and his Neo Tri-Beam Level 3 can be used as a full seven meter dump, allowing it to be one of the highest damage super attacks in the entire game, and can be almost certain death for your opponents.

Tien's Supers come with a steep cost, however - each Tri-Beam that Tien fires takes chunks out of his health, and Neo Tri-Beam in particular will tear through the triclops' health like nobody's business... unless Tien is in Level 3 Sparking and/or Limit Break. In that case many of the side-effects of his Supers are not only drastically lessened, but the damage output is also amplified. As for his non-Tri-Beam Super, Farewell, Tien... can only be used once, and landing a hit with it will prevent him from using Telekinesis and his B assist. Regardless, it is the most powerful Super at full scaling, and these downsides are put in place because of its power.

Outside of his supers, Tien is a straightforward character with a solid number of tools to help him hold his own. He has some decent mix-up game and powerful oki while solo (Telekinesis can put the opponent on block anywhere shortly after a sliding knockdown), and he offers a respectable amount of utility with his assists, each with their own utilities in neutral scrambles, blockstring safety, and combo game. His Dodon Ray special has the unique property of allowing Tien to fall to the ground while using it, making it a very irritating poke and letting Tien approach somewhat safely. Lastly, because Sparking! enables jump-cancelling during blockstrings, Air Volleyball Fist becomes a near-unreactable overhead using the Tiger-Knee motion and a great mix-up option.

If you've read up to this point, then it should be clear by now that this Overview is screaming at you to put Tien in the anchor slot. Let it be known that playing Tien outside of the anchor position is asking for trouble: not only can he perform well enough on his own to survive without assists, but the health drain from his Tri-Beam Supers are near nonexistent when Limit Break and Sparking are activated. This means that a Point or Mid Tien will struggle to maximize his damage without either hurting himself too much or missing out on finishing opponents due to a lack of sufficient meter. Tien is built to be the last man standing on your team, and if you can succeed in accommodating for his penalties, you gain access to a truly frightening anchor.
Tien


DBFZ Tien Portrait.png
Fastest Attacks
Reversals

 Tien is a balanced, stalwart character that - using resources - has insane damage potential with his Super Moves.

Pros
Cons
  • Solid Mix-ups: Has multiple quick lows, an overhead, a command grab, and special moves with guardpoint.
  • Super Damage: All his Supers boast among the highest minimum damage in the game (even after scaling), along with efficient meterburn options.
  • Upgrades: Limit Break and Sparking do a lot to mitigate the health penalties from Tri-Beams, and the latter unlocks j.236H as an instant overhead.
  • Assist Variety: A is good for neutral, B is nice in blockstrings and builds a little bar. Both are useful for combos.
  • Meter Hog: Unremarkable damage without bar, and unreasonable to place in a position outside Anchor.
  • Flawed Assists: A has very little blockstun and B has very poor tracking in neutral while dealing no damage.
  • White Bread: Tien's simplicity gets the best of him. His neutral, blockstrings, oki, and combos are very straightforward, sometimes to a detriment

Normal Moves

5L

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
5L 400 All 6 3 12 -3
5LL 500×2 All 9,7 3,3 17 -4
5LLL 100×8, 250 All U3+ 13 [1 (1)]×8, 1 19 -4
5L
  • Larger range than average.
  • 6 frames.

5LL
  • Good forward momentum for long range confirms.
  • 2 hits, which also helps with confirms.

5LLL
  • Gimmicky place to sneak in a command grab, but you can also sneak in a low with 236L/M.
  • Has enough blockstun to safely switch Tien out to another character while the move is still active.

5LLL is a standard fair LLL launcher, does 9 hits allowing more time to think through next step than LLL usually allows if you ended up mashing it out. Usually you got this by accident.

5M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
700 All 9 3 17 -4
  • Good forward reach.
  • Reaches opponent on roundstart.

Excellent stagger pressure tool due to it's reach and frame advantage. Also a very consistent combo tool.

5H

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 /1000 All U1 13 4 24 -9
  • Has good horizontal reach.
  • Can link into 2M in the corner with Smash.

Mostly used in his optimal corner combos, otherwise does not see much play. Good as a blockstring tool and advances far forward.

5S

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
750 All 12 26 -5
  • Single projectile.

Good pressure tool due to it's frame advantage and leads to a mindgame. 5S > delay 5H will catch buttons, and 5S > 5L will reset your string for more pressure. Not all that great in terms of neutral, as Tien has stronger projectiles in the air anyway.

2L

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
400 Low 7 3 13 -4
  • Can chain into itself.

This normal can sometimes whiff the 2nd time after a specific air normal, or depending on the size opponent you're facing. Otherwise, a good pressure button and helps Tien get mixups with lockdown assists.

2M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
700 Low 10 3 20 -4
  • Fast startup, but short range.
  • -4 now allowing for better staggers than before.

Punishes with this normal can be sometimes difficult due to it's short reach, but it gets the job done.

  • Incredibly active, making post vanish combos very easy to land.

2H

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 / 1000 All U1+ 12 3 28 -15
  • Frame 4 anti-air.
  • Combos into SD on Smash hit.

Tien's main and only ground anti-air. Can cancel into j.236L or Dodon Ray to stay safe if it is blocked.

6M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 All 24 6 10 0
  • Universal overhead.

j.L

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
300×2 High 6,3 2,2 15

Double overhead normal.

j.M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
700 High 9 5 17
  • Good air to air normal.

j.H

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 / 1000 High D1+ [D3+] 12 4 21

Not used much as a combo ender, as j.2H > j.236M combos without smash and will always result in a sliding knockdown on it's first use. If you don't want the sliding knockdown, j.2H > j.236L has you covered too. j.H's only real purpose is as a high damage jump-in.

j.S

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
750 All 13 27
  • Stops Air momentum
  • Has decent angle.
  • Has enough hitstun to combo into superdash and Dodon Ray.

j.2H

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 All U1+ 12 3 19
  • Combos into superdash on Smash hit.
  • Combos into j.236X on non-Smash hit.

Usually followed up by 236M for a sliding knockdown at the end of air combos. It's not fast enough for neutral use so you'll mostly see it in combos.

Special Moves

Volleyball Fist

236L/M/H

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
236L 700 Low 11 8 20 -5
236M 700 Low 21 12 20 -5 4-30 Guard, 1-30 ki blast
236H 1800 Throw D2 24 1 29 4-28 guard
236L
  • Performs a sliding low attack.
  • Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.

The quick version of the Volleyball Fist. Useful for catching opponents off guard or spamming high attacks.


236M
  • Strikes a pose, gaining guard point before doing a sliding low attack.
  • Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.
  • Guard point does not activate on frame 1, but it’s very early on frame 4.
  • Blocks projectiles, mid, low, DP and overhead attacks. loses to supers
  • Due to having guard point, this version will scale your combos and followups more than L version.
  • Reaches full-screen.
  • If used during your blockstring, it will block the opponents buttons if they attempt to mash out.

Guard point is active when Tien enters the pose and remains for the very beginning of the slide. If Tien is hit while his guardpoint is active it extends to cover the rest of the move, allowing him to slide through beams and other large attacks. due to the move being unpunishable on block, this makes 236M good for stagger pressure or calling out an opponents offense.


236H
  • A short ranged command grab that costs half a bar.
  • Follow-up hits are automatic and cannot be vanished out of.
  • Stays same side.
  • Causes a sliding knockdown.
  • Scales like 236M.
  • Possesses a guardpoint like 236M, which blocks all the same types of attacks too.

An honest grab which is incredibly powerful thanks to its guardpoint, it can be used to create powerful conditioning on your opponent especially when combined with 236M and j.236H, making the only options to counter is a large read with level 3, or incredible patience to jump at the right time, ultimately forcing them to respect your blockstrings.

Volleyball Fist Follow-up 1

L/M Volleyball Fist > L/M/H on hit

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
236X > L 800 All 12 -5
236X > M 800 All 12 -5
236X > H 1200 All U1+ 16 -5
All Versions
  • Damage depends on what the starter is. 236L will scale better and do more damage than 236M.
  • Launches the enemy vertically and follows them into the air.
  • Pressing an additional button will cause Tien to slam the enemy to the ground.

L
  • Keeps your enemy in front of you.

M
  • Switches your enemy's side to the opposite of where they were before.
    • An important tool if you want to reposition yourself behind the enemy. Usually most useful if the "wall" behind you is closer than the one in front of you.

H
  • Leaves Tien enough time to land j.M.
    • By delaying button press so that Tien doesn't do Follow-up 2, you can start air combos with this. Very useful when you want to get a sliding knockdown with good oki, along with some relatively decent damage off a special move.

Volleyball Fist Follow-up 2

Volleyball Fist Follow-up 1 > L/M/H on hit

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
236X > X > L 900 [1080] High 31
236X > X > M 900 [1080] High 31
236X > X > H 1800 [1980] High D1 35
All Versions
  • Damage depends on what the starter is. Starting with 236L will do more damage than 236M.
  • If you time it perfectly, it does extra damage and builds exactly half a bar.
  • [] is on just frame.

L
  • Knocks the opponent straight down.

M
  • Knocks the opponent a little further away than the L version.

H
  • Knocks the opponent even further away into a sliding knockdown.
  • Using this after the H version of Follow-up 1 will keep Tien grounded for additional combos. Tien's damage skyrockets even further with this and hitting the just frame he gets this for half a bar rather than a full one.

Air Volleyball Fist

j.236L/M/H

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
j.236L 1000 High 15 3 18
j.236M 1000 High D1 20 3 18 4-24 guard
j.236H 1300 High D1 13 3 18 4-14 guard
All Versions

Being a decently sized attack and possessing a guardpoint (in M and H versions) this move can be used as a dominant air option beating an opponents buttons outright, or it can be used in blockstrings as an overhead by TK'ing j.236H when in Sparking!. Like 236X on the ground, this move can be used to heavily condition your opponent, forcing them to respect your buttons rather than attempt to mash out.


L
  • Causes a soft knockdown.

M
  • Causes a sliding knockdown.
  • Brings Tien higher in the air to hit, whiffs if opponent is directly in front of Tien.
  • Can link from j.2H.
  • Has a guardpoint on frame 4 which blocks overheads, lows, DP, projectiles, ki blasts and superdash. Loses to supers and 2H.

H
  • Causes a sliding knockdown.
  • Has a guardpoint on frame 4 like j.236M, which can block all of the same attacks.
  • Nearly unreactable overhead during Sparking! if you TK the move, but you can only continue pressure or use a Super if it lands since this immediately puts the opponent in sliding knockdown.

Crane Strike

214L/M/H (Air OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
214L 1300 High D1 24 2 24 -2
214M 1400 High D1 26 2 24 -2
214H 1500 High D1 24 2 25 -2
j.214L 1200 High D1 20 Until Landing 24 -2
j.214M 1300 High D1 24 Until Landing 24 -2
j.214H 1400 High D1 20 Until Landing 24 -2
All Versions
  • Connects following j.S in combos - only whiffing if the combo is too long.
  • Is 2H'able - making it unsafe without assist.

A useful overhead which can lead to mixups, it should be used sparingly as all versions are 2H'able on reaction. This can be used as you condition your opponent with guardpoints, in order to occasionaly steal turn or confuse them with a new attack. (still 2H'able).


214L
  • Pops Tien back upwards on hit.

214M
  • Pops Tien foward on block, allowing for a potential high low mixup with airdash
    • j.214M crosses up on block if it hits high enough on the opponent, sometimes allowing for a left right mixup with airdash.

214H
  • Pops Tien foward on block, allowing the same mixup.
    • j.214H is also able to switch sides in the same way as j.214M
  • Causes a sliding knockdown.
  • Brings Tien higher in the air to hit. Whiffs if opponent is directly in front of Tien.

Dodon Ray

236S (Air OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
236S 900 All 19 24 25 -5
j.236S 900 All 18 24 31 -5
  • Pops up the opponent.
  • Can be followed up with Superdash
  • Despite only being 1 hit, this will still clash with other beams.
  • If hit close enough, can link into either 5M or j.L for extending combos.

Although Dodon Ray has a thin hitbox, Tien falls in the air while doing it, thus making it a scary neutral tool (you can stop him from falling with a 2 input). Able to be followed up with superdash.

Telekinesis

214S

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
214S 0 All 42 3 11 31
214S Fail 81
  • Tracks the opponent anywhere on screen. Deals very high hitstop and hitstun on hit.
  • Won't perform the move if Chiaotzu is still on screen or after he self-destructs.
  • Every third use will not work and will leave Tien vulnerable.
  • Beside the Ki gain on hit, normal calls also build 10% Ki gauge even on whiff and 25% on failed call. This special Ki gain is not affected by Ki gain penalty.
  • Like other special moves, can be cancelled into by normals.
  • On hit, can be converted into a solo combo anywhere on screen.
  • Can be used after every knockdown, but best at the corner.
  • Pressing S during startup cancels the move, can immediately act upon cancellation. Resets the amount of uses that would leave Tien vulnerable.

Z Assists

Assist A

Dodon Ray

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
800 All 29 24 +20
  • Is very unique as a beam assist, since it pops the opponent up instead of sending them towards the wall, allowing for better midscreen confirms.
  • Allows for longer combos due to the single hit compared to other multi hitting beam assists.

Better for combos than other beam assists, but much worse for blockstrings. Generally the preferred assist, but there are characters who like the combo utility and blockstun of Assist B.

Assist B

Telekinesis

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
0 50 [40] +40
  • Does 214S but unlike the point version, this assist doesn't fail every third use.
  • Builds 10% Ki Gauge each call. Is not affected by Ki gain penalty.
  • After Chiaotzu self-destructs, Tien does not attack and only shows up to build meter.

Similar to Gotenks A assist as it holds opponent in place, allowing for vast utility to expand combos full-screen, help get sliding knockdowns or meterless snapbacks, and fortify pressure with its high blockstun. Rather slow start-up and has worse tracking than his own 214S, so needs some labbing and getting used to.

Assist C

Volleyball Fist

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
1030 all 35 [20] +55
  • Blockstun C assist.
  • Tracks to the opponent.
  • Spikes the opponent towards you on hit.

Arguably the best of his assists. The tracking of Assist B may be better for some characters, but almost everyone can use a high-blockstun tracking assist.

Super Moves

Tri-Beam

236L+M (Air & Hold OK) or 236H+S (Air & Hold OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
236L+M 2400 All 13+4 3 38 -20 13-25
j.236L+M 2400 All 13+4 3 38 -20 13-25
236[L+M] 1699×2 All
j.236[L+M] 1699×2 All
All Versions
  • Deals unrecoverable 750 damage to Tien. Tien cannot die from self damage, and can use this even at 1 HP.
  • Self damage decreases during Sparking or Limit Break, and becomes 0 with both activated (See here)
  • This is the second highest damaging Lv1 Super at max scaling, losing only to  Goku's Kaioken x20DBFZ Goku KaiokenFinisherHS2.pngGuardAllStartup1+1RecoveryAdvantage-42

Can be a bit tough to use sometimes due to the fixed angle and slightly delayed startup, especially after a DHC or in a combo with a lot of hitstun decay, so make sure you practice comboing into this.


Tri-Beam
  • Minimum damage: 1032.

Tri-Beam (Hold)
  • Hold L or M during Tri-Beam's startup to keep the Tiens lined up on the same side.
  • Hold H or S during Tri-Beam's startup to have the Tiens shoot from both sides.
  • Uses up another bar.
  • Minimum damage: 1426.

Neo Tri-Beam

214L+M (Air & Hold OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
214L+M 3600 All 17+3 3 85 -42 1-68
j.214L+M 3600 All 17+3 3 85 -42 1-68
214L+M > X 1000 All 35 3 85 -42
  • Holding L/M/H/S allows Tien to tack on additional damage at the cost of one meter per extension. Deals unrecoverable damage to Tien per use.
  • Self damage decreases during Sparking or Limit Break, and further decreases with both activated (See here)
  • Minimum damage: 1872, followed by 600 for every subsequent use.

The big one. Tracks the opponent and leaves Tien next to them. Deals a godly amount of damage with a lot of bar, which is accentuated greatly if you have Limit Break and/or Sparking. If you're at max scaling in a combo, however, you'll probably prefer going for Farewell, Tien..., unless it won't kill or you're going for style points, which is always a good option.

This move simply being in the game is a good enough excuse to run Tien in anchor sometimes, providing insane damage off of DHC's that you can use often if the rest of your team isn't too meter hungry.

You can also just use this as a reaction to almost anything to close out a match, including supers, as Tien is offscreen while this move is playing out.

Farewell, Tien...

214H+S

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
3600 Throw 9+1 25 40 1-14
  • Travels in a straight horizontal line, level with the enemy when the move is initiated. Whiffs on crouching characters.
  • Won't come out if Chiaotzu is still doing Telekinesis. Chiaotzu also goes away if Tien is hit during the attack.
  • On hit, Telekinesis, B Assist, and this super become unavailable for the rest of the match.
  • Like other super moves, can be cancelled into by normals and special moves.
  • Minimum damage: 2610.

Absurdly high damaging combo ender but lacks the versatility of his other Supers.

On hit, plays a really long grieving animation after the explosion that doesn't freeze time, allowing Sparking opponents to regenerate their health. This along with the low raw damage makes the Super useless for damage if they survive.

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