DBFZ/Videl

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Videl
DBFZ Videl Portrait.png
Play-style Rushdown, Mix-up
Team Role Point

Overview

"I wouldn't look down on me if I were you. I can hold my own in a fight."
Lore:The daughter of Mr. Satan, the world's champion that defeated Cell (in the eyes of the public). Introduced by being an annoyance when Gohan first came to Orange Star High School. Then she became more of an annoyance trying to find Great Saiyaman's identity. She found his identity and then blackmailed him into teaching her how to fly. Even with her new found knowledge of Ki, Spopovich ran a train on her in the Worlds Martial Arts Tournament, severely injuring her if it wasn't for Gohan's senzu bean. Later down the line, Videl and Gohan became lovers; getting married and having a child named Pan. Because of this, Videl has been benched off (as Toriyama does with many of the female characters and anyone not named Goku or Vegeta) to look after Pan, however her strength remains, and she is still able to pack a punch if the necessity arises against anyone who is much weaker than Yamcha. (Name trivia: Takes from English "Devil" and inverts the syllables. Mr. Hercule Satan takes from Latin name for Greek demigod hero Hercules, as well as the name for the Judeo-Christian ruler of Hell, Satan.)

Playstyle

 Videl  Videl is a mixup character with bad defense and low damage, but extremely powerful vortex options that can suffocate the opponent.

Pros
Cons
  • Great mixup potential; several options available to her at all times.
  • Can drag the opponent corner-to-corner pretty easily with 6H.
  • High meter gain.
  • Good okizeme options and SKD anywhere on the screen.
  • Decent neutral options overall along with a projectile that beats superdash.
  • Her level 1 super, Rainbow Storm, can use smash to keep a combo going afterwards.
  • Z-Reflect is replaced with a frankly terrible spot-dodge, crippling her defense and making her easy to roll. Perhaps the worst weakness a character could have.
  • Very bad frame data, several gaps in pressure and unsafe buttons.
  • Most of her mixups heavily scale her damage.
  • Awkward air normals enable a few corner combos while limiting all of her other combos.
  • 2H has terrible range, making Videl's defense even worse.



oh god why can't i reflect


Videl has very powerful options, but do note that you will be constantly fighting against her massive weaknesses the entire time. This renders her one of the hardest characters to play effectively in DBFZ.

  • Blockstrings have so many gaps in them. 2M is a gap, 6H is a gap, her mixups have gaps, she's unsafe too.
  • Extremely low damage in a two-touch game means you'll need to be mixing the opponent and vortexing them very efficiently, whereas they only need to touch you once.
  • You cannot afford to lose your pressure or drop a combo. Certain characters who have much better neutral and pressure will KILL you if they catch you.

Videl has bar none the greatest weakness in the game: her Reflect is replaced with a Spot-Dodge!

  • The spot-dodge doesn't guarantee a counterattack or even escape pressure. It simply grants Videl invulnerability.
  • Just as easy to punish as any other reflect.
  • Light normals can still continue into autocombos on whiff, meaning Videl can easily get stuffed straight after her dodge.
  • Projectile assists like SS Vegeta's Consecutive Energy Blast cannot be consistently avoided.

Not having a reflect is one of the most critical weaknesses someone can have. It's not just that the spotdodge is weak, it's that she trades reflect for it. Reflect is one of the best defensive tools in the game that conveniently all characters have EXCEPT Videl. There's no pushback, meaning several characters can just start throwing out lights and will stuff any attempts Videl can make at escaping. In fact, Videl can actually still be minus after a successful dodge and frequently is. You'll be relying on her counter and DP a lot in order to escape pressure, and Videl can easily find herself dead to rights just from one hit. You are CONSTANTLY at a defensive disadvantage, and can't even adopt a passive-aggressive style such as Hit's reflect into 5M.

At the very least, Videl has an alternate costume. Hold down A1 (Assist 1/L1 on a DS4) while selecting her.

Normal Moves

5L
5L
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DBFZ Videl 5LL.png
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5L
  • Has a high hitbox
5LL
5LLL
  • Switches sides on hit.
  • Cancelling into this from a blocked 5LL always leaves the opponent in too much blockstun for the throw to work.
5M
5M
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  • Can be used twice in a string by inputting 4MM.

One of Videl's better buttons. The fact that she can use 4MM to use it twice helps her a lot in terms of pressure and strings, as not only does it add on damage in the case of it hitting, but her 2M being as slow as it is means that 4MM gives her a bit of a replacement in some regards. It's also good for snagging characters out of the air higher than Videl, and is a prime button to combo into 6H with.

5H
5H
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Orochi!
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  • Uses up Videl's Smash
  • Wall bounces if Smash hasn't been used

Videl does a tetsuzanko like Akira from Virtua Fighter.

5S
5S
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DBFZ Videl 5S-2.png
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  • Can be superdashed through
  • Can go through ki blasts

Videl calls the Great Saiyaman to do a dashing punch.

2L
2L
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A godsend for Videl considering her slower than average 2M.

2M
2M
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  • Moves Videl forward a bit. Somewhat slow.
  • When used in blockstrings, it is slow enough to be reflected or reversal'd. This might not happen every time, but is important to keep in mind
2H
2H
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Tenko!
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  • Universal Anti-Air
  • Uses up Videl's Smash
  • Launches higher with more hitstun if Smash hasn't been used
2S
2S
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Saiyamen! Use Aura Sphere!
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  • Can be superdashed through

Videl calls the Great Saiyaman to throw a level 1 ki blast. Synergizes well with assists to make approaches a breeze.

6M
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  • Universal overhead
  • Uses animation and hitboxes/hurtboxes of j.H

It's an overhead. Can only be converted off of with an assist, meaty, or an airdash/vanish cancel in sparking.

6H
6H
Justice Combination
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  • A 3-hit combo normal.
  • Invincible to ki blast projectiles.
  • The gaps inbetween each hit beat buttons, but lose to reflects and reversals.
  • Special-cancellable on every hit and 6M cancellable as well.
  • 6H(x) delay 6M will beat reflect

Videl's command normal. Very useful for her grounded routes, as it allows her to not only have great corner carry but gives her a solid combo option that doesn't use up her Smash, which gives her potential to combo into her Level 1 and get extensions. It's not fantastic in blockstrings but can be good if you catch your opponent mashing light inbetween your strings. It can have some small use as a bait as it can cancel into the command grab, but you're better off using different strings if possible. Also has some use as a meaty of sorts, although this isn't as useful.

j.L
j.L
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This normal is surprisingly good and can even be used sometimes as an air to air to catch SuperDashes.

j.M
j.M
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  • Placeholder.
j.H
j.H
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  • [] is on Smash hit
  • Deals below average damage for a j.H
j.S
j.S
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  • Cannot be superdashed through

The Great Saiyaman does a divekick at about a 60 degree angle. Can be linked off of in the corner.

j.2H
j.2H
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  • Uses up Videl's Smash
  • Launches higher with more hitstun if Smash hasn't been used
  • Can jump cancel
  • Does not change air momentum like other launching j.2Hs
j.S
j.2S
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They freaked it
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  • Cannot be superdashed through

The Great Saiyaman does a divekick straight down. Causes a ground bounce. Has a lot of use for sliding knockdown setups in the corner, as it will cover almost every single tech option if timed properly, and force the opponent in a blocking situation no matter what.

Special Moves

Videl Rush
Videl Rush
236L/M/H
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236X
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L
  • Videl does a forward kick.

The start of her rekka pressure, doesn't see much use as 236M is strictly better in all situations.

M

Better to use than 236L because it goes farther, does more damage, and still combos from 6H.

H

236M is still better than this move. While it does more damage and is faster, it isn't enough to merit the meter cost.

Videl Rush Follow-ups
Videl Rush Follow-ups
Videl Rush > L/M/H
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236XL
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236XLL
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236XLLL 236XM
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236XH
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L
  • Hits overhead.
  • Doesn't have Head property, cannot be Anti-air'd.

Videl does an elbow drop. Because it's an overhead (that must be blocked standing), it forms a good mixup between it and her 214X moves (which have to be crouched).

LL
  • Last attack that doesn't use Smash in the series.
  • Multihit, easy to call assists and extend combos.
LLL
  • Consumes Smash.
  • Wallbounces on hit.
  • Causes Videl to go into a landing animation, even if she combos afterwards
M
  • 22M, but mid rekka.

Command cross up from rekkas, uses Smash.

H
  • 214H, but mid rekka.
  • Cannot hit crouching opponents.

Command grab from rekkas, uses Smash.

Air Videl Rush
Air Videl Rush
j.236L/M/H
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The OTHER people's Videlbow.
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L
  • Results in a soft knockdown.

This is Videl's primary combo extender with an assist, as it outdamages j.H. By a lot.

M
  • Results in sliding knockdown on it's first use in a combo.

This is Videl's primary combo ender. It will always work and will always slide knockdown.

H
  • Results in sliding knockdown on it's first use in a combo.

Kind of useless as j.236M does the same thing for free.

Frankensteiner
Frankensteiner
214L/M/H (Air OK)
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Both sides of Cammy: the Divekick and the Throw
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"God I wish that were me"
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Ground L
Air L
  • Videl's command grab.
  • Results in a sliding knockdown
Ground M
Air M
  • Tap M for a sliding knock down, hold M for Videl to throw the opponent outwards
  • Can combo off held version if the opponent its thrown into the corner or vanish is used
Ground H
Air H
  • The Great Saiyaman comes out and bumps the opponent back to Videl, allowing for a combo. Hold the button for the Great Sayiaman to not come out.

  • All versions whiff crouchers
Moonsault Kick
Moonsault Kick
22L/M/H (Air OK)
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Ground L
Air L
Ground M
Air M
Ground H
Air H
  • All versions cross up on the opponent.
  • All versions chain into vanish.
  • M and H versions use smash on hit to create a ground bounce (or wallbounce if opponent is launched into a corner)
Rising Eagle
Rising Eagle
214S
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RISING JAGGA
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  • Fully invincible from frame 1

Videl's go-to reversal, as it is meterless and invincible frame 1. She can get SKD off of vanish if it connects so this is very easy to confirm into a good situation for Videl, and can be used in blockstrings with very small gaps to catch your opponent, but like most DPs it can be safejumped and/or baited out easily, so try not to go too crazy with it.

Z Assists

Assist A
Videl Rush
Assist A
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  • Goes about as far as Bardock's assist.

It's literally just Bardock's assist. It doesn't see much use as Videl gets a ton of mileage from Assists, but it's there.

Assist B
Eagle Rush
Assist B
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Where were you last night huh???
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  • 35 frames of startup.
  • 46 frames of blockstun.

A better version of her boyfriend's B assist although with less range, in exchange for more hitstun and blockstun.

Assist C
Rising Eagle
Assist C
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Super Moves

Rainbow Storm
Rainbow Storm
236L+M
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FLASH KICK!
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  • Costs 1 Ki Gauge.
  • Minimum damage: 120, 555.
  • Can be followed up with j.2S > DR or j.2S > SuperDash if Smash hasn't been used
  • If Smash has been used, Videl can cancel the end of this super on hit into anything.
Defender of Love & Justice, Great Saiyaman!
Defender of Love & Justice, Great Saiyaman!
236H+S
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Counter animation
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You're not touching my girlfriend
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Counter
Attack
  • Costs 1 Ki Gauge.
  • Counter super where Videl poses. If succesful, the Great Saiyaman appears for a straight attack downward.
  • Because it is frame 1, it can be used as a counter to safejump setups. However, if you're not careful, you'll simply get baited out instead.
  • During the first time the attack is used, the Great Saiyaman shall perform his tradmark heroic pose, which gives him a damage increase on all of his attacks (5S, 2S, etc). This only happens if the full animation played out. - DHCing before the animation plays out will not give him the buff.
  • Can be Z-Changed, as soon as the Great Saiyaman comes down onto the opponent.
  • After activating the power up once, the animation will no longer play, allowing for easier Z-Changes
Justice Rush
Justice Rush
214L+M or 214H+S
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OTP
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  • Costs 3 Ki Gauges
  • Fully invincible on startup
  • Ends with a hard knockdown
  • Minimum damage: 1604 [1711].
Justice Revenge
Justice Revenge
Hold H+S while knocked down
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They've made literally every possible excuse to make sure every character has a Kamehameha.
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  • Costs 3 Ki Gauges.
  • Invulnerable during startup.
  • Causes hard knockdown on hit.

Better than Frieza's, but you have better reversal options. It does good damage, but you probably won't use this one too much unless you're against a button happy opponent who may not be totally ready for it. You don't really get oki off it, so it's really just used as a last resort of sorts.

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