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Overview

Playstyle
Waldstein
Pros Cons
  • Extremely long-range normals that have faster than average startup for their size.
  • Despite being a grappler, Wald can still find an opening from many different positions thanks to his variety of normals.
  • Several lengthy disjointed command grabs.
  • 2B is an amazing anti-air
  • 20k health; highest tier of health in the game
  • Although his 5C is fairly slow, it covers a massive amount of range as he lunges towards you.
  • Solid array of assists that have huge hitboxes and leave you in hefty multihit blockstun.
  • Has a menacing frame 0 command grab distortion with large horizontal range.
  • Wald's other 236B+C distortion puts you directly in the corner.
  • Thanks to the game mechanics, Wald can defend himself and cover his slow approaches properly with Reject Guard and good assists.
  • Has some of the lowest ground mobility in the game.
  • His Reversal Action is poor: despite having plenty of invulnerability, it is slow and only hits opponents in front of him on the ground.
  • No projectile (Although, the correct assist can make up for this if/when Wald's partner is available.)
  • While deceptively smaller than his visuals suggest, Waldstein still has a massive hurtbox compared to most of the cast which makes him vulnerable to ambiguous crossups and instant overheads as well as character specific combos.
  • His command grabs do low damage compared to the other grapplers, greatly weakening the threat of his strike/throw mixup.
  • Longer than average startup on normals often leaves Waldstein vulnerable in pressure situations

EXS of Mountainous Strength: Hecatoncheir

Waldstein's EXS grants him enormous physical strength, resistance, and vigor. In game play, his EXS allows his non-command-grab claw attacks to delete a single hit of any projectiles they strike.

Waldstein
BBTag Waldstein Portrait.png
Health:20,000
Prejump:6F
Backdash:29F (1~7F Inv All)
Forward dash:32F
Unique Movement Options:No Run
Fastest Ground Abare:This character's fastest attacks for mashing or scrambles. Excludes universal throws.2A (8F)
Reversal Attacks:Any reversal-esque moves this character has. Excludes universal options.A+D (22F)
236B+C (14F)
214B+C (13F)

Normal Moves

5A

Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
5A 1500 All 11 3 25 -11 B
5AA 1500 All 10 2 23 -8 B
5AAA 1000, 2500 All 11 11 8 -2 [+1] B
5AAAA 2000 All 19 4 24 -9 B
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Jump cancelable both on hit and block.

With its massive range, 5A is Wald's primary poke in footsies in most situations.


5AA is mostly combo filler


  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Restands opponent on hit if close enough.
  • Shock wave is jump cancelable on hit.
  • Shock wave knocks down.

5AAA is a strong combo ender as it restands the opponent right in front of you with frame advantage (+8?) close enough to command throw or 2A.


  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Knocks down on hit.

5AAAA is not a move you are going to be using. Ever.

Version Level P1 P2
5A 3 100 80
5AA 3 100 80
5AAA 3, 4 100 70, 85
5AAAA 4 100 85

5A:

  • Cuts projectiles


5AA:

  • Cuts projectiles


5AAA:

  • Cuts projectiles
  • Second hit only occurs if first hit hits and is close enough
  • Values in [] is if first hit doesn't catch
  • Waldstein is +7 on restand


5AAAA:

  • Cuts projectiles


5B

Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
5B 1700 All 15 3 19 -3 B
5BB 1000, 0, 2500 [1000, 2000] All 11 4(18)8 13 0 B
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Jump cancelable on hit.

5B is generally your poke with the most well rounded coverage. Massive horizontal and vertical range.


  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • If close enough, grabs and wallbounces opponent off the wall.
  • If too far or too high, will punch and wallbounce opponent, but they will not bounce as far.
  • Jump cancelable on hit.

5BB is Waldstein's main combo tool on the ground. The wallbounce from the throw version of this move can combo into basically anything, including a 2C link to reset your gatlings. Common followups are 2BB, 5AAA, 2C, or j.214B.

Keep in mind that the punch followup from this can be interrupted by reversals after an opponent blocks the first hit. However you can reverse beat into 2A to cancel the punch safely

Version Level P1 P2
5B 4 100 85
5BB 3, 5 100 80

5B:

  • Cuts projectiles


5BB:

  • Cuts projectiles
  • Waldstein performs a punch instead of a hitgrab if first hit doesn't catch
  • Values in [] is if first hit doesn't catch


5C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
800+ High 26 3 18 -4 H
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.

Wald's assault-style overhead. Fairly slow and reactable, but also the longest 5C in the game. It also makes Waldstein as one of the two UNI characters to have completely different 5C move (in this case, Assault j.B), unlike other UNI characters who instead reused some used jump attacks for 5C instead of unused ones.

Courtesy of Waldstein's extremely low walkspeed, this is sometimes Waldstein's most consistent reaction punish to certain blocked Distortion moves. A decent move also to counter other low pokes and ground level projectiles due to the hopping animation, and also an option to reliably solo combo from maximum range counterhit 5B.

Level P1 P2
3 100 100


2A

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1000 Low 8 2 14 -2 F

Wald's fastest normal, it serves as one of his best combo starters (if you can get close enough to use it as Wald).

Level P1 P2
2 90 75
  • Cuts projectiles


2B

Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
2B 1700 All 14 2 30 -13 B 6~15 H
2BB 0, 1000, 0, 2000 All 14 2 32 B
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Launches on hit.
  • Head invulnerable.

2B is Wald's go-to AA and launcher. Formidable anti-air due to size and early head invulnerability.


  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Whiffs on blockstun.
  • Can be blocked.

Be very careful when chaining into 2BB while hitting an assist. It can also occasionally whiff if the opponent is extremely close to Wald during 5B.

Version Level P1 P2
2B 4 90 75
2BB 0, 4, 0, 4 100 100×3, 75

2B:

  • Cuts projectiles


2BB:

  • Whiffs against guarding opponents


2C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1700 Low 11 4 17 -2 F
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.

Fantastic range for a low. Rebeat allows you to convert into Wald's bnbs without much trouble.

Level P1 P2
4 90 75
  • Cuts projectiles


j.A

Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
j.A 1500 High 14 3 14 H
j.AA 1500 High 9 8 16 H
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Jump cancelable both on hit and block.

Huge vertical hitbox. Can be used as a rising instant overhead and combo using an assist.


  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Jump cancelable both on hit and block.
Version Level P1 P2
j.A 3 80 80
j.AA 3 80 80

j.A:

  • Cuts projectiles


j.AA:

  • Cuts projectiles


j.B

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1700 High 13 6 16 H
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Jump cancelable both on hit and block.
  • Wallbounces on hit.

Air-to-air move with a super long horizontal hitbox. Use it for opponents trying to jump or zone you from the air as it reaches almost fullscreen.

Level P1 P2
4 80 85
  • Cuts projectiles


j.C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
2500 High 20 Until L 24L -10 H
  • Alters air momentum to stall then quickly fall towards the ground
  • Causes hard knockdown on hit

Body splash move that can be used to bait anti-airs or set up crossups. Bear in mind that it is unsafe on block, meaning it should either be spaced with care outside of range from fast normals, or covered by an assist. Marginally safer if it hits later.

Level P1 P2
5 80 90



Universal Mechanics

Ground Throw

5B+C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
0, 2000 Throw 7~30 3 23 T
  • Knocks down

When using Waldstein's normal throws midscreen, you can combo into grounded normals after dashing towards your opponent.

Level P1 P2
5 100 50
  • Minimum damage 2000


Verderben

5A+D

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1500, [1500, 0, 1500, 0, 2000] Air Unblockable 22 4 45 -30 B 1~25 All
  • This is a hit grab, and thus can be blocked
  • Grabs and sideswitches opponent if it hits on the ground

Huge horizontal hitbox, but crappy vertical hitbox and a ton of startup. This makes Waldstein's reversal highly inconsistent against most air based approaches, especially factoring that he can only trigger the more damaging hit grab sequence on grounded or knocked down opponents. On the plus side, the huge range is advantageous when defending against grounded blockstrings as not many grounded normals can strictly outspace Waldstein's reversal. Also has fairly short overall animation time so you can make it safe by throwing out an assist first. Can be hit confirmed from the long range knockdown from 5AAA (but not the close range restand).

Level P1 P2
4, 0, 4, 0, 4 80 60
  • Cuts projectiles
  • Only performs additional hits on catch
  • Only catches on ground or near ground hit
  • Values in [] refer to on catch
  • Minimum Damage 75 [250]


Skills

Eisen Naegel

236A

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
2200 All 15 3 27 -11 B
  • Deletes projectiles upon impact.

Fast forward-moving single swipe attack. The hitbox is deceptively huge (it has a ton of forward range and reaches almost to the top of the screen) so it can be used to knock down and oki opponents who think they're far enough to safely zone or jump over you. Beware as it can be unsafe on block if done from too close.

Level P1 P2
4 80 85
  • Cuts projectiles
  • Minimum Damage 110


Wirbelwind

236B

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1200×3 All 30 3(9)4(10)5 27 -13 B
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.

3-hit swipe combo. Has less range and more recovery than 236A but deals more damage, so this is the version you'll probably want to go for for combo filler.

As this move has multiple hits, it can potentially delete even multihit projectiles when spaced correctly, though this is very inconsistent and likely to leave you open to be counterhit instead.

Level P1 P2
4 80 85
  • Cuts projectiles
  • Minimum Damage 60×3 (180)


Drehen Durchbohren

214A/B

Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
214A 0, 500, 3000 Throw 8 2 33 T 1~9 T
214B 0, 500, 3500 Throw 13 2 36 T 1~14 T
  • Faster than 214B but short range.

Command grab. If the opponent is in hitstun, becomes a hitgrab that will combo after various moves, notably 5AAA.


  • Longer startup but longer range.

214B is better for tick throws off 5A or 2A as you have to wait for the throw invul to end before you can grab them anyway, and the extra startup isn't enough to make it reactable either way. If you have an assist out, you can press D at the same time as the 214B input to switch to the other character while the throw animates and get a combo after.

Version Level P1 P2
214A 4 100 100×2, 50
214B 4 100 100×2, 50

214A:

  • Minimum Damage 175


214B:

  • Minimum Damage 200


Aerial Verderben

j.214A/B

Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
j.214A 0, 2300 Throw 7 3 Until L + 10L T
j.214B 0, 2700 Throw 10 3 Until L + 10L T

Air command grab that can combo on opponents in hitstun. Can be used to grab blocking opponents out of the air or end air combos.


B version is slower but more range and damage than the A version.

Version Level P1 P2
j.214A 0, 4 100 100, 85
j.214B 0, 4 100 100, 85

j.214A:

  • On catch, stops horizontal momentum
  • Minimum Damage 115


j.214B:

  • On catch, stops horizontal momentum
  • Minimum Damage 135


Extra Skills

EX Wirbelwind

236C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1200×4 All 15 2(12)2(11)2(8)4 22 -7 B
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.

236B with a fourth hit that knocks down. Mostly just for damage.

Level P1 P2
4 80 85
  • Cuts projectiles
  • Minimum Damage 120×4 (480)


EX Drehen Durchbohren

214C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
(0, 500)×3, 0, 1000, 0, 2500 Throw 13 2 36 T 1~14 T
  • Same speed and range as 214B.
Level P1 P2
(0, 4)×5 100 100×9, 50
  • Minimum Damage 500


EX Aerial Verderben

j.214C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
0, 500, 0, 2700 Throw 7 3 Until L + 10L T
  • Switches sides upon landing, so be careful when using it in the corner.

Detailed description of the usefulness of the move go here

Level P1 P2
(0, 4)×2 100 100×3, 85
  • On catch, falls forward
  • Minimum Damage 320


Partner Skills

5P

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1700 All (18)+15 3 27 -11 B
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Causes ground bounce on hit.

Waldstein's least impressive assist in terms of block pressure and hit confirmation options, but still potent. The combined range and startup of this assist is particularly good for controlling space in neutral, and you can actually combo straight into another 5P or 4P when canceling this move into Cross Combo.

Level P1 P2
4 70 85
  • Cuts projectiles
  • Minimum Damage 85


6P

Wirbelwind

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1200×3 All (18)+65 3(9)4(10)5 28 -11 B
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • Has a long pause before attacking. Not very good for combos, but can be good for setplays.

Very strong assist both for lockdown and creating ambiguous crossover situations due to the extremely generous hit/blockstun generated by the three hits of this move. Also an ideal assist for covering your own reversals.

Level P1 P2
4 70 85
  • Cuts projectiles
  • Minimum Damage 60×3 (180)


4P

Felsen Vulf

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
1700×2 All (18)+13 3(19)P Total (18)+66 -1 P
  • Deletes projectiles on impact.
  • There's always a gap between its between hits.
  • When canceled via Active Switch or Cross Combo, the first hit causes a hard knockdown.

Waldstein's fastest assist. Relatively short horizontal range but good vertical range on the first hit. Point character can cross up between its hits. When canceling the move early, the first hit has absurdly long hitstun, enabling a variety of combos afterwards.

Level P1 P2
4 70 85
  • Cuts projectiles
  • P in active frames represents a projectile spawned
  • Minimum Damage 85×2 (170)


Distortion Skills

Sturmangriff Rage

236B+C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
0, 2000, 0, 5900
[(0, 2000)×2, 0, 5500]
Throw 13+(60 Flash)+1 Until Wall 49 T 1~24 All
25~Until Wall P
  • Carries the opponent to the corner from anywhere

Despite appearances, this is a throw, which means they need to jump to avoid it. Primarily for combos and punishes; not 0f after superflash so if you are trying to mix up the opponent, use the other super instead. Can be useful to punish projectile moves as a read but very risky.

Level P1 P2
4 80 100×3, 60 [100×5, 60]
  • Values in [] are for Enhanced version
  • Minimum damage: 400, 1534 (1934)
  • [Minimum damage: 400×2, 1320 (2120)]


Werfen Erschlagen

214B+C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
(0, 2000)×2, 5000
[(0, 500)×3, (0, 2000)×2, 5000]
Throw 13+(60 Flash)+0 5 44 T 1~17 All

Superthrow with invul and a fair bit of active frames, so you can actually anti-air some diving attacks like Narukami j.C with this.

Level P1 P2
4 80 100×4, 60 [100×10, 60]
  • Values in [] are for Enhanced version
  • Value in () is for final hit if super is done with 720BC
  • Minimum damage: 2300 (2476)
  • [Minimum damage: 2600 (2776)]


Distortion Skill Duo

Werfen Erschlagen

P during Partner's Distortion Skill

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
(0, 500)×2, 1500 [0, 100, (0, 200)×2, (0, 500)×2, 1500] All 1+(79 Flash)+1 5 34 -29 B 1~6 All
  • This not a grab

If your first character's distortion was blocked, you can still tag into this super to grab the opponent if they try to punish the recovery frames. It is a hitgrab, unlike the normal version of this Distortion Skill. Force them to respect you

Level P1 P2
4 100 100
  • Values in [] are for Enhanced version
  • Minimum Damage: 2500 [3000]


Astral Heat

Katastrophe

222B+C

Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery On-Block Attribute Invuln
0, 20000, 37000 Throw 13+(72 Flash)+0 5 21 T 1~17 All

This is a command grab. You can combo into this move in situations where you could also combo into 214BC.

Level P1 P2
0 100 100
  • Minimum damage 57000


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