GG2/Valentine

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Overview

Overview

Valentine is Guilty Gear 2's only pure long range zoner. Jack-O Valentine in Guilty Gear Xrd actually has some of the same moves as Valentine. The similarities don't end there as both have the goal of maintaining enough Tension to make their special moves a threat as they try to bring out an army to enable their offense.

Zoning can be useful in large battles where Valentine can hide behind her Servants, but without allied units down She doesn't have the tools to keep someone from rushing her down.

Valentine does have some powerful combos if she has meter to burn. It's usually easiest to land a hit while you are being supported by your Tribe but there are also cases where you can sidestep and punish the opponent being careless. Once the enemy is low health it can be hard to run from Valentine's special moves which are all projectiles.
Playstyle
Valentine is a Tension reliant long range zoner with a unique double jump and multi-direction airdash. She has several high damage single hit attacks that cover a large area making her good at Servant ClearWhen a Master takes time to clear massive swathes of enemy Servants, often by abusing strong single-hitting attacks with wide reach..
Pros Cons
  • Valentine's Tribe: One of the best advantage a character could have. Not possessing any major weaknesses, it puts pressure on the enemy to maintain their strategy and prevent her units from making a push.
  • Zoning: With multiple different projectile moves, Valentine can effectively fight from behind her Servants. Since Blast DriveA Master's fastest form of movement. When activated some tension is consumed but the player moves forward very fast and can drift for sharp turns. has startup, Valentine's 5Y and 8Y can be make it hard for an enemy master to retreat from a losing battle.
  • Good Servant ClearWhen a Master takes time to clear massive swathes of enemy Servants, often by abusing strong single-hitting attacks with wide reach.: Valentine has some high damage and wide range attacks. Some cost Tension and are projectiles while others are melee options with long startup and recovery.
  • Tension-reliant: Valentine does have powerful tools, but they're counterbalanced harshly by her reliance on Tension for Zoning in combos. Valentine will need to stock up on Tension Potions or recharge tension at ghost controlled by her or her allies if she plans on engaging an enemy Master.
  • Needs to zone: Many other Masters, especially strong ones like Sol, absolutely destroy Valentine if they can get close. If she or her units can't keep them away, odds are that she won't survive the battle.
  • Drive Startup:Valentine's Blast DriveA Master's fastest form of movement. When activated some tension is consumed but the player moves forward very fast and can drift for sharp turns. has the slowest startup of any Master. This makes getting away from bad situations hard without spending Mana on the 1-use Ability Bye-Bye.

Lock-off Attacks

The most useful would be F8X, otherwise you don't see Valentine use Lock-off Attacks.

F5X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? Low No No Lenient Lenient Side/Back

Does poor damage and so do any followups due to scaling. Overall not very useful.

A slap going left to right looking alot like 4X. Unlike 4X your followups are F5XX, F8X, special moves, sidestep, backstep, or modern cancel.

Only F5XX, 5Y, or Modern Cancel will lead to combos (excluding experimenting with item usage).

F5XX

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? Low No No Lenient Lenient Side/Back

Slaps right to left while moving forward slightly similar to 5X or 4XX but with none of the same useful followups.

Same followups as F5X except that F5XXX just goes back into F5X. Same issues as F5X in that the damage is low and and the followups scaled even more.

F8X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? Yes ? ? ?

Valentines most used lock-off attack. Wider range than Valentines other AoE attacks but less damage too. Guard Breaks instantly on hit.

Use this to deal with large groups of units allowing you to focus on whoever is left standing as the first group wakes up from knockdown.

This also has a small jump cancel window as the Lucifero hits the ground and can lead to combos.

Lock-on Attacks

5X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
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Valentine slaps right to left with stubby range while moving forward slightly.

Mostly used to get Valentine's combo game going if she can't land 4XXX.

5XX

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? ? ? ? ?

Catches sidestep left out of blockstun from 5X and helps get you to 5XXX which can lead to big combos if 5XXX is Modern Canceled.

If 5XX was blocked you will want to do something else besides 5XXX otherwise you could be sidestepped and punished. If the opponent sidesteps predictably you can catch them by gatling into 2X and if they backstep predictably special cancel into 5Y will catch them.

Gatling into 8X is usually done when going for meterless damage against Servants and not very useful against Masters.

5XXX

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
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Valentine jumps forward thrusting both her knees in front of her covering good range.

This move is usually Modern Canceled on hit to combo into 4X.

5X4X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? High ? ? ? ?

A slap from left to right with long startup but very high guard break damage.

Doing this twice will guard break someone. The pushback is very high and angled to the right so unless they are in a corner and you Modern Cancel you won't be able to do this twice in a row.

This is mostly going to be useful for opening up a opponent who is already scared of your pressure. The knockback on hit is so high that you can go right back to pressure with Valentines zoning.

4X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
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Valentine's stubbiest normal where she slaps left to right. Also the easiest way to get to her air combos since 4XXX is a jump cancel able launcher.

The easiest way to get to this button in a combo is to land 5XXX then modern cancel into 4X.

If you do manage to get close enough to have this blocked then 4XX will catch every kind of sidestep.

4XX

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? ? ? ? ?

Helps get you to 4XXX in combo routes. If 4XX was blocked you will want to do something else besides 4XXX otherwise you could be sidestepped and punished.

If your opponent tried to mash any kind of step out of blockstun from 4X they will get hit by this move.

4XXX

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? ? Launch ? Jump

A jump cancelable launcher which Valentine uses to get to her air combos.

6X(XXX...)

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? Yes Yes ? ?

One of Valentine's best moves for meterless Servant Clear if you have time to fully charge it. If you don't have time to charge it use F8X or 8X instead. Usually far to slow to hit Master's with the charged version.

Valentine spin's Lucifero for as long as the player keeps mashing X and while mashing X the player can slowly shift which direction Valentine faces. Damage increases as Valentine spins Lucifero but it maximum damage cap is once you hear Lucifero scream 3 times.

Lucifero has a hitbox active during his spin as long as you mash X but it doesn't have good DPS and you don't want to combo into releasing the attack because damage scaling will greatly limit the overall damage on the high damage hit.

2X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
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Two spikes come from Valentines position hitting for a long range diagonally to her left and right.

Has very high stun. Land 2 of these in a row and the opponent will be stunned.

Usually used from 5X on block to catch sidestep but experienced players can use this as a poke by manually aiming it with free-lock (L trigger by default). If mastered this move becomes very useful due to it's very long range.

8X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? Yes ? ? ?

One of Valentine's best moves for meterless Servant Clear. The middle ground between F8X and 6X(XXX...). Useful when you don't have time for 6X(XXX...)

Valentine swings Lucifero over her head and smashes him into the ground in front of her.

Jumping Attacks

j5X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
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Valentine does a spinning hook kick which has good air tracking. Staple part of her air combo game.

j5XX

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
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Valentine does multiple stabs with her coattails. Air Combo filler.

j5XXX

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? Yes Ground bounce ? ?

Valentine spins Lucifero around which ground bounces the opponent. Leaves Valentine airborne and can be jump and air dash canceled. It is possible to continue an air combo after this move at certain heights.

j8X

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? Yes Soft Knockdown ? ?

Valentine swings Lucifero over her head and smashes him into the ground in front of her while airborne. This move brings Valentine to the a grounded state faster than her other air attacks.

This is one of Valentine's most useful normal attacks due to it's range, speed, and jump cancel working with Valentine's unique double jump and air dash mechanics.

At the right distance it is pretty safe on block as you can sidestep, backstep, or jump cancel into airdash J.XXX for continued pressure.

Both used as a combo ender after j5XXX and as combo filler in more advanced combos due to ground bounce on airborne opponents.

Specials

Judas

F5Y/5Y

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? Yes No ? ?

A simple fireball with slight tracking.

This move has low tension cost, fast startup, and low damage.


Brutus

8Y

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? No Yes ? ?

Lucifero turns into a gun fires a heart shaped projectile at the opponent.

This move does high damage, is wide, and can pierce enemies to hit multiple enemies.

This move has high tension cost and long startup.

Cassius

2Y

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? No No ? ?

Two piercing projectiles on the left and right from the back, and a pincer attack in a circular trajectory due to homing properties.

There is a trick/bug one can use with lock-on switching to alter the properties of this move but it needs to be researched a bit more before described here.

If you fire this at a Master be sure they cannot dash in a straight line towards you because they can avoid this attack and punish in that case.


Remove the Chain of Chiron

jY

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? No No ? ?

Valentine shoots 3 fireballs down-forward diagonally from where Valentine is facing. Similar to Xrd Jack-O's Tension dependent special move of the same name.

This move carries momentum from jumps done out of Blast Drive so a talented player can do 'bombing runs' on groups of enemies.

Calvados

X+A

Damage Guard DamageHow much this attack degrades your enemy's Guard. If an attack is Instant, it will always destroy the enemy's Guard. OTGThe act of hitting the opponent when they are knocked down. Short for "off the ground" or "on the ground." Down AttackAn attack that makes the opponent unable to tech. MC WindowModern Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting. Step WindowStep Cancel Window; if it's Strict, an attack can only be step cancelled exactly when it hits, while Lenient is on hit or during recovery after hitting.
? ? ? Yes ? ?

Slowly rises into the air then fires a projectile down-forward diagonally that creates a large multihitting projectile similar to Xrd Jack-O.

Due to it's long startup it's best used when the enemy Master cannot reach you as you can be interrupted.

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