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Overview

Carl Clover, the son of Relius Clover, was a student at the Military Academy along with Jin, Noel, Tsubaki, and Makoto. However, he dropped out, and is now a vigilante who travels with the Nox Nyctores Nirvana, believing that Nirvana is his sister Ada.
Drive: Automaton

Carl's Drive revolves around controlling Nirvana. Pressing and holding the D button will cause Nirvana to become active. Once active, she can move forward (by holding 3, 6, or 9) and backward (by holding 1, 4, or 7), attack by releasing the D button while either holding a direction or after completing the inputs for one of her special moves, deactivate by releasing the D button without any directional input, or get hit by an opponent.>

Nirvana has her own life bar at the bottom of the screen, above Carl's heat gauge. It goes down when Nirvana is active, uses an attack, or gets hit by the opponent. Most of Nirvana's attacks have a continuation cost that make it so that if she uses another attack before being deactivated, it will cost even more life. If Nirvana's life bar reaches zero, she will be disabled and recover health slowly, but you won't be able to use her again until a short time after her life bar completely refills.

Other than her Distortion Drives and Astral Heat, Nirvana's moves act independently of Carl, meaning they don't put him in any kind of vulnerable state and can be used even if Carl is already doing something else. However, if Carl blocks or gets hit, most of Nirvana's moves will stop and she will deactivate, and she can't be activated until Carl recovers from the blockstun or hitstun.
Carl Clover

BBCSE Carl Portrait.png

Health: 9,500
Guard Primers: 4
Movement Options: 1 Double Jump/Airdash, Hop-type Dash, Command Dash

 Carl Clover is versatile

Pros
Cons

Move List

See also: Carl Full Frame Data

Normal Moves

5A

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
300 124 80 82 6 3 8 -3 Click!

Quick, short-range jab. Generally connects on crouching opponents. Unlike most characters' jabs, doesn't cancel into itself.

5B

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
430 178 90 89 9 2 19 -4 Click!

The flag thrusts straight forward. Mid-range poke. Good in pressure because it can be jump canceled on hit or block.

5C

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
620 256 85 92 15 5 18 -4 Click!

Long-range poke. Pretty good for footsies and protecting Nirvana from getting hit, but also dangerous because it extends Carl's own hurtbox pretty far. On counter hit, 623C connects after it at any range, and an instant air dash j.2C usually does as well. Can be used to catch tech rolls if used in conjunction with one of Nirvana's moves, particularly Con Fuoco.

2A

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
300 124 70 82 6 1 10 -4 Click!

Carl's fastest low. Doesn't cancel into itself, similar to 5A. Can be used to catch tech rolls, but it's usually not the best option for that.

2B

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
390 161 70 86 9 4 16 -6 Click!

The flag is thrust forward at the ground. Low poke. Mostly just used in mixups or to extend a blockstring.


2C

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
600 248 90 80 14 3 24 -8 Click!

Carl's only move capable of Fatal Countering. Head attribute invulnerability from frames 8-16.

6A

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
480 198 70 89 11 4 22 -9 Click!

Carl's staple anti-air. Head attribute invulnerability from frames 5-14.

6B

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
580 240 90 89 13 4 16 -3 Click!

Carl steps forward and the flag sweeps across the ground. Low attack. Floats and slightly pulls opponent in on counter hit, and also not emergency techable on ground counter hit.

6C

Version Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
No Charge 550 227 80 89 29 3 14 0 Click!
Partial Charge 1000 414 85 92 77 3 14 +2 Click!
Max Charge 1100 455 90 92 100 3 14 -- Click!

Slow overhead. Partially charged version floor bounces on air hit. Fully charged version is completely unblockable and also floor bounces on air hit, but with much more untechable time.

3C

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
590 244 100 85 15 10 20 -11 Click!

Carl's sweep. Carl slides forward during the active frames. Not emergency techable on ground counter hit. Carl can go under some moves during the active frames that he normally wouldn't crouch under, but using the move with that purpose is extremely risky and generally not worth the risk.

j.A

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
300 124 80 84 5 4 8 -- Click!

Carl's fastest move. Its decent horizontal range and speed make it a pretty good air-to-air option.

j.B

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
510 211 90 89 9 3 24 -- Click!

The flag is swung horizontally in front of Carl. Also an air-to-air option; larger hitbox than j.A, but slower.


j.C

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
660 273 90 89 11 5 24 -- Click!

The lance swings in a downward arc in front of and below Carl. Good for air-to-ground jump-ins. Knocks down on air hit.

j.2C

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
700 289 85 92 9 until landing 19F after landing -- Click!

Carl dives straight down with the lance below him. Because of how it abruptly changes momentum, it can be used to bait anti-airs.
Floats Carl on hit or guard (total 26F, CH state until 12F); no landing recovery. 10F~ can cancel self-float into j.A, j.B, or j.C. Can only be used once per jump.

Counter Assault

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
0 0 50 92 16 3 32 -16 Click!

Uses Carl's 6C animation. Fully invulnerable frames 1-20. 180F Heat Gauge cooldown. If Nirvana is behind the opponent after Carl uses a Counter Assault, you can continue a combo out of it, such as with Volante or 3D.


Drive Moves

6D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
860 356 90 89 (16+)31 9 60 -- Click!

Nirvana punches horizontally in front of her while moving slightly forward.
Great move for extending pressure when the opponent is caught in between Carl and Nirvana.
Staggers on ground CH for 38F, wallbounces on air CH, corner bounces on air hit.
Stops if Carl blocks or gets hit.

2D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
1220 505 90 92 (16+)57 6 60 -- Click!

Nirvana pulls her arm up above her head and swings downward. Hits overhead.
Primarily used for unblockable setups while Carl does a low, and is also an important combo tool because of its high damage and good proration.
Can also be used for fuzzy guard setups; this is performed by having Carl do a j.A or j.B after 2D is blocked. The reason to go for this instead of an unblockable is because it is much harder for the opponent to use a reversal to get out of the fuzzy guard setup compared to the unblockable setup.

3D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
200×4 82×4 90 89(once) (16+)42 4×4 67 -- Click!

Nirvana spins around, hitting close to the ground both in front of and behind her. The first hit is a low, all other hits can be blocked in any way.
Primarily used in unblockable setups while Carl does a jumping attack. There are even setups where the jumping attack is done so low to the ground that Carl recovers in time to block almost all reversals.
Knocks down on air hit, cannot be emergency teched.

4D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
320, 880 132, 364 90 86 (16+)38 3(15)5 69 -- Click!

Nirvana first swings low to the ground, and then swings horizontally higher above the ground. Nirvana has super armor until the recovery of the move, so it is often used to try to hit the opponent when they try to poke Nirvana.
The first hit launches slightly upward, and the second hit wallbounces. Breaks a primer.

8D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
920, 560 380, 231 90 80 (16+)33 32 72F total -- Click!

Nirvana claps above her head, creating a circular shockwave that gradually gets larger until going away. Extremely useful for controlling air space and for combos. Breaks 2 primers.

La Campanella

22D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
-- -- -- -- -- -- 70F total -- Click!

Nirvana teleports to Carl's location, very slightly behind Carl. Nirvana has no hitbox while the move is in progress.
Using this move while hitting the opponent with Cantabile causes Nirvana to appear directly in front of Carl, due to Carl stepping back during the last part of Cantabile. This is useful for setting up combos.

Con Brio

623D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
310, 1000 128, 414 90 95, 90 (16+)18 3, 6 40 -- Click!

Nirvana extends her "fingernails" diagonally upward and in front of her. In addition, Nirvana has super armor to jumping attacks during this move's startup. Very long range and very fast, this move is used for not only anti-airing opponents, but also for when you just want Nirvana to do a move quickly. A good example is when Carl is knocked down in the corner and Nirvana is directly behind the opponent; having Nirvana do Brio while Carl wakes up is a very powerful option. Breaks 1 primer.

Con Anima

63214D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
0, 1800 0, 745 90, 100 100, 70 (16+)28~119 4 60 -- Click!

Nirvana walks forward either a set distance or until she reaches the opponent's position and then tries to grab them. Works like a normal throw; can be broken with a throw reject. Overall not extremely useful, but it has its uses in the Tager and Haku-men matchups.

Con Fuoco

41236D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
280×7 115×7 90 89 (16+)52 26 97 -- Click!

After a long windup, Nirvana thrusts her arm forward. Long horizontal range, hits 7 times. Breaks a primer. This move is decent at covering Carl while he approaches from the air. In addition, this move is useful in okizeme setups. However, due to the long startup, long recovery, and low damage, it shouldn't be used much for other situations.

Volante

421D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
860 356 90 89 (16+)30 -- 91F total -- Click!

Nirvana creates a projectile that starts off slow and gradually speeds up. If Nirvana is far away off screen, this is another option besides teleporting Nirvana with La Campanella. The startup of the move is interrupted if Carl blocks or gets hit, but once the projectile is created, it only goes away if Carl gets hit. This means that if the opponent is pressuring you, they'll have to either try to dodge the projectile during their pressure string or just give up their pressure to dodge it (or take the risk and try to hit you before it hits them).

Throws

Forward Throw

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
0, 1200 0, 496 90, 100 100, 55 7 5 18 -- Click!

Carl slams the enemy into the ground in front of him. Special cancellable. Has a ton of untechable time, plenty of time to teleport Nirvana in for a combo. Overall, this should be chosen instead of back throw.

Back Throw

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
0, 1200 0, 496 90, 100 100, 55 7 5 18 -- Click!

Carl flips the opponent over his head, and they bounce off the ground behind him. Special cancellable. Can use Vivace (236A/B) to get in position to continue the combo, but this throw is only recommended to use if you're in the corner and just want the opponent to be in the corner instead.

Air Throw

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
0, 1300 0, 538 100 100, 55 7 3 18 -- Click!

Carl throws the opponent at the ground and they bounce back, high into the air. Plenty of time to teleport Nirvana and do a combo. A purple air throw as a combo ender can be used against Tager: if the combo ends with the two of you high enough in the air, do a purple air throw and then do Fermata (214214D) if he breaks it, which is completely air unblockable. If the setup is done correctly, he has no options to escape.

Special Moves

Vivace

236A/B

Version Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
A -- -- -- -- -- -- 30T -- Click!
B -- -- -- -- -- -- 39T -- Click!

Carl's hitbox is removed during the early active frames of this special, allowing him to dodge moves and pass straight through any opponent close enough to him. Good for crossing up the opponent with Nirvana if Carl passes through to the other side while Nirvana stays on the other.

Cantabile

623C

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
0, 100 0, 41 100 92(1) 14 15 38 -26 Click!

A command grab of sorts that tosses the opponent high into the air when it lands. Untech time isn't as long as Carl's normal throw, but still allows time to land an attack with Nirvana or chain into a Distortion, especially with such high proration stemming from this move. Long active frames, an incredibly long reach, and a low hit make this very different from other throws, but it has high recovery and gets worse on block so make sure this hits or have Nirvana nearby to cover you while recovering.

Allegretto

j.214C

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
(300, 200, 400)*2 (124, 82, 165)*2 100 95 13 26 29 -- Click!

Distortion Drives

Laetabilis Cantata

632146C

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
200×20 0 100 95 8+3 5×19, 20 121T +18 Click!

High speed, easy to chain into. Its damage alone is not very high, but Nirvana can still act while Carl is executing this move, allowing further damage through additional attacks. If you have the Heat, you can even chain this move alongside Rhapsody of Memories for big damage, performing this move on one side of the opponent while Nirvana attacks from the other.

Rhapsody of Memories

236236D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
200×6, 300×2, 350×2, 500 0 70 95×10, 70 (16+)10+7 refer to notes 49 -- Click!

Decent speed, last hit wallbounces. Like Laetabilis Cantata, its damage alone is not good, but now Carl is the one moving and dealing additional damage instead. Because this executes from Nirvana's position, it's possible to catch the opponent off-guard if she's not close to Carl and they drift too close to her, allowing Carl time to close the gap and either cross them up if blocked or add his own damage if hit. Even if this is not the case, the speed at which Nirvana performs this move will apply constant pressure and can push the enemy into the corner while Carl does his own thing.

Fermata

214214D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
3000 0 60 90 (16+)1+32 6 91 -- Click!

Carl's only DP, and he's not even the one executing it. Regardless, this move is great, dealing higher damage in a single hit in comparison to his other Distortions and blasting opponents high into the air on hit. It has the poorest first hit proration of all his moves, so starting with this is not very wise. However, all of Carl's and Nirvana's other moves have amazingly high proration overall, making this move a fantastic combo ender.

Astral Heat

Deus Ex Machina

64641236D

Damage Heat Gain P1 P2 Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Hitbox
death 0 -- -- 1+324 165 50T -- Click!

If this attack misses, Nirvana will be completely disabled for the rest of the round. Use with care.


Strategy

Offense

Potentially, Carl has amazing combo damage, insane pressure, ridiculous mixups and crazy resets. The catch is that this is only true if both Carl and Nirvana are in position. Carl or Nirvana alone can't accomplish much; it's the synergy between them that sets Carl's offensive game apart from the rest of the cast.

Your main goal on the offensive with Carl, outside of simply hitting the opponent, is to put your opponent in between Carl and Nirvana. This is often called "sandwiching" the opponent. This kind of positioning gives Carl pressure opportunities until Nirvana runs too low on life.

Pressure and Mixup

If you get the opponent to block one of Carl's moves, but Nirvana isn't in position and isn't doing anything else, you can try teleporting Nirvana in with 22D while Carl does a crossup j.2C allecan (short for "allegretto cancel," do j.214C when j.2C connects: rather than bounce away, Carl will land on the ground quickly). To do the crossup, make the opponent block a jump-cancellable normal (5A, 2A, or 5B), then jump and instant airdash over them. The crossup is rather hard to react to, but it is also punishable in a variety of ways if the opponent is ready for it. Depending on how you expect the opponent to react, some alternate options Carl has are to:
1. do a frame trap instead - this beats people who are trying to jump out
2. do the airdash, but instead do j.A or airthrow. If they jump out, j.A should put them in a blockstring so that you continue pressure and then can go for another mixup, and airthrow is good if you think they won't be ready to break it.
3. do a j.2C allecan, but don't make it crossup - this is useful against people who don't jump out, but instead either block the other direction or try to do an option select to beat the crossup (example: with Litchi, 421D+A+B to get a reversal if Carl crosses up or to get barrier block if Carl doesn't). While this may not result in a hit very often, it allows Carl to continue pressure, and if Nirvana was just teleported in, he gets more pressure options off of that.

Doing basic gatlings long enough for Nirvana to recover from whatever she may have been doing and then doing 6D is a good way to reset pressure in Carl's favor. Usually, the best Carl can get off of this is to try many frame traps, which catches opponent's trying to mash or jump out of pressure. Note that frame traps lose to reversals such as Ragna's Inferno Divider, so you have to constantly be on the lookout for attempts to escape with these kinds of moves. Some of Carl's gatlings have gaps where the opponent is not in blockstun, meaning this is automatically a frame trap; there is no way to perform this gatling without it losing to those reversals.

The only overhead Carl himself has on the ground is 6C. This is very slow and has very few gatling options (only off of 5A, 2A, and 6B). It is also even on block, meaning if the opponent blocks it, especially with Instant Block, the opponent could get an opportunity to get an advantage on Carl unless Nirvana's available to follow it up with another move. Overall, this move is not very useful, but it can be used very sparingly to catch people off guard.

Doing a blockstring into 236A/B to switch sides while Nirvana performs a move can cross up the opponent. This is a pretty strong mixup option, but you're at risk of losing your pressure if the opponent successfully blocks it. The best Nirvana moves to use for this are 2D and 4D due to how much time they give you to combo after them.

Nirvana's 2D is generally the most threatening mixup tool Carl has. Using it while the opponent is sandwiched often forces the opponent to guess what you're going to do next rather than try to react to it. Carl's options are:
1. Do a blockstring ending with a low move that hits at the same time as 2D to create an unblockable, or at least make it very hard to block. Usually, the best low to use for this is 6B.
2. Cut the blockstring short or jump cancel to bait the opponent's reversal.
3. Do the safest blockstring into 2D, then do a fuzzy guard mixup after 2D is blocked. For the overhead, do dash j.A into j.2C allecan to continue the combo, and for the low, just do 2A after blocking for a little while in case the opponent tried to reversal before 2D hit.
4. Crossup with 236A/B while 2D hits. 236B should also beat most reversal attempts.

Due to volante's low blockstun, it can be an effective way to setup a throw mixup. For example, end a blockstring with 6B > volante and then go for a throw or for a throw reject miss with something like 2A > throw.

While it might be tempting to use Rhapsody of Memories in pressure to get lots of mixup opportunities, it is not recommended against a well-prepared opponent due to how easy it is to IB and jump out of it while Carl is still in recovery.

Some uses for Carl's meter in pressure: 1. j.2C RC to continue pressure from positions where j.2C allecan normally wouldn't work, or just to go into an overhead before landing. In particular, j.2C RC > airdash j.B j.C can work. 2. 6B or 3C or 623C RC to frame trap and continue pressure when the opponent expects the blockstring to end, potentially counterhitting them out of something. 3. Cancel a ground dash into allegretto, then RC it. From this, you can do a falling aerial, or an airdash j.B, etc.

Okizeme

Carl's okizeme options mostly rely on using Nirvana while they're waking up to catch rolls and/or to perform a completely safe meaty. Carl's options are mostly similar to what they would be in a normal pressure situation, so this section will only list the oki setups that give results that stand out above the rest.

If Nirvana is not too close to the opponent, such as when you end a combo with 2D (and possibly 8D), Con Fuoco combined with Carl's 2B or 5C should catch any roll attempt, be a meaty attack, and go into a mixup afterwards: after the opponent starts blocking, jump and do either empty jump 2B or airdash j.B j.C.

Nirvana's 3D hits on both sides of her and allows plenty of time to react and continue the combo, so it is also pretty good at catching rolls. Since it also hits low, you can try for an unblockable on the opponent's wakeup when you end a combo with j.C; if they emergency tech, you hit them with an aerial and 3D, and if they don't emergency tech, all they can do is neutral tech to avoid getting hit.

IAD j.2C is still strong as an okizeme option. If properly spaced/timed, it even beats some wakeup reversals such as Ragna's Inferno Divider.

Defense

Carl does not have much in the way of defensive options. 236B travels far and has head and body attribute invincibility, so it can be used to dodge some attacks, but loses to 2As, lows, and throws. It is most useful when the opponent is in the air or throwing projectiles at you.

Since volante doesn't go away when Carl blocks something, if you used it before the opponent starts his blockstring, it will force the opponent to work around it to try to not get hit by it. This is most often done with Nirvana being completely off the screen, so there's less indication of when the projectile is going to come.

While Carl is teching, he can control Nirvana. The best use for this is to do Brio while waking up to try to catch the opponent doing something if Nirvana is next to them. This can be used to get around various okizeme setups, such as Litchi's Thirteen Orphans (if Litchi will get hit by Brio, do 236B to escape; this kind of trick can be used on other setups as well, if Nirvana is in the correct position). Another important option is teleporting Nirvana with 22D while Carl is waking up to get her to a better position.

Overall, the best defensive option Carl has is probably to just save meter for Counter Assaults. With Nirvana behind the opponent, you have options to make it safe or to even combo out of it. The main issue you need to worry about when using his CA is that the range is quite short.

Neutral

The most important part of Carl's neutral game is that you need to use Nirvana to control space. This is a difficult concept to explain in depth, but the basics boil down to some important concepts: 623D (Brio) and 8D (the clap) are extremely good at limiting the opponent's air options due to being fast moves with gigantic hitboxes, in addition to 623D even having guard point against aerials; j.A and j.B are both great air-to-air moves while j.C is a decent air-to-ground, so combined with Nirvana's anti-airs, Carl's air game is very hard to deal with; moves like 6D and 41236D (Fuoco) can be used to pressure a grounded opponent into jumping out of the way or punishing slow enough projectiles; 421D (Volante) is a projectile that goes across the entire stage along the ground, but is only a real threat if Carl is very close to the opponent when the projectile gets there; and 5C is Carl's longest-reaching normal and is good at threatening people who are hitting Nirvana, although you have to worry about the opponent jumping over it and countering you.

Because Nirvana has such great tools for stopping an opponent from doing what they want, Carl will often want to stay behind Nirvana and slowly approach the opponent with her leading the way. In this situation, Carl must react to or predict the opponent's actions and try to counter them, primarily with the aforementioned moves. The best time to try to approach the opponent without Nirvana in front is when a Volante is coming in soon from off screen. Be careful not to get hit, though, because this will cause the Volante to disappear. In addition, since Volante has so little blockstun and so little hitstun on the ground, you might need to be careful even if it connects. However, if it hits an airborne opponent, they can't recover until they hit the ground.

Since Nirvana is where most of the neutral game threat comes from, most opponents should focus on weakening Nirvana before confronting Carl. Part of playing Carl is to also manage Nirvana's life bar correctly, and try to allow her to recover life when possible, and to not use her moves without reason so that she'll be healthy enough when you need her the most. Carl's best tools to stop an opponent from hurting Nirvana are 5C and 623C (very risky on block or whiff, but it's Carl's highest range attack and doesn't extend Carl's own hurtbox as far as 5C does), while Nirvana's best are 4D due to having super armor against everything through the startup, and 236236D due to super armor and starting up very quickly.

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