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Android 17 is a fast, heavy mix-up based character that possesses a combination of various mobility options and rekka moves that grants him an overall constant pressure, fantastic mix-up and unorthodox combo routes that lead to very high damage. With just an assist and half a bar to hand, an unscaled starter can lead to colossal punishment, and he will continue chasing you after you get back up with Accel Driver and Finishing Driver; two rekkas with a huge tray of different follow-ups, that give 17 colossal option select prowess, and allow him to mow down the opponent merely through catching them blindly. He provides brilliant synergy to a team with his assists, versatile for offense, defense, and B notably charging up his EZ-bake knockdown Power Blitz. With such tremendous strengths, it makes sense that 17 is contrasted by being one of the least beginner friendly characters in FighterZ, with lackluster range, coupled with the arduous task of having to learn all the different Driver follow ups. 17 is a character that takes many, many hours to learn, but those hours reward you with possibly the most terrifying mixup monster the game has to offer.
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|Lore:||Android 18's younger twin brother. Forcibly turned into a cyborg alongside his sister by Dr. Gero for the purpose of destroying Son Goku, he rebelled and killed Dr Gero with little effort. Despite being free from the doctor's demands, both 17 and 18, along with the reactivated Android 16, continued in their task in killing Son Goku just for the entertainment. 17 was then absorbed by Imperfect Cell, but was later revived by Shenron after Cell's defeat. With Goku gone and the world at peace for the time, Android 17 became a park ranger in order to preserve nature and wildlife. Many years later, 17 finds himself with the Z Fighters again after being recruited by Son Goku to join in the Tournament of Power as one of Universe 7's strongest warriors, with 17 ultimately winning the tournament as the last remaining fighter.|
|Android 17 operates using speed and dizzying consecutive attacks that render opponents frantic.|
- 5L is a basic jab with good vertical range, but with very poor horizontal range
Good frame data, bad range. Make up for this with his 5LL, which will most certainly connect if this move were to miss, which does happen on occasion.
- A17's 5LL dashes a good bit forward during this move
- Has pretty short start up, allowing for 2L to connect with 5LL even if 5L whiffs.
Is one of 17's best combo starters, being unscaled and with unexpected range for 17. While 5L could whiff, this will most certainly bring you right in the opponent's face in a blockstring, and ensures most other buttons after will not be missing their mark.
- A17's 5LLL Lunges forward and strikes with both his fists.
- Is considered airborne during this move and thus is invulnerable to crouching moves.
- Tracks the opponent's direction, which leads to some hillarious results.
- Lunges forward at medium range to reach opponent.
Good range for 17, and one of the moves he can end blockstrings safely on without being whooped. For what little stagger ability 17 has, this move is pretty decent at more than just being an unscaled starter, and it's much better than his poor range 2M in terms of liability.
- Good move for setting up rekka combos and pressure
Actually has solid range, unlike most of 17's buttons. There is only one issue, and it's virtue of being his 5H, meaning it's not like you could use it for staggers. Still, you can cancel with rekka, 236/214S or anything else appropriate.
- Mash or hold S to shoot all 6 Ki blasts.
- One of his few and best neutral tools.
- Can be canceled into rekka, allowing for some sweet superdash bait.
- Hits low and can be done twice.
- Incredibly short range for a 2M, however pushes 17 forward slightly to make up for it.
- Impaired horizontal range, leaves 17 airborne.
- Difficult to combo in to normally.
Actually a good move now to use in blockstrings thanks to the added j.214X and j.236X Specials. You get a solid mix with this now, since 17 is no longer deprived for specials when his feet leave the ground.
- Universal overhead.
- Can be followed up by 2H/5H.
- Scales like an 'L' normal (Thanks a lot, Cell).
- 17's farthest reaching normal.
- Hits at round start range.
- Shrinks 17's hitbox, allowing him to pass underneath certain air attacks and beams/ki blasts
- Has very poor range, but if timed precisely can stop superdash.
- Mashing after acrobatic assault allows 17 to stay close to the opponent while hitting him in the air.
- Hits at medium range.
- Doing after Acrobatic Assault won't stop the momentum.
- 5LLLLLLL Smash hit can wall bounce.
- j.H Smash hit causes a sliding knockdown.
- Mash or hold S to do all 3 hits.
- Highly valuable combo tool in corner sparking combos.
- Has enough hitstun to combo into superdash in the corner and among certain circumstances midscreen.
- Builds ridiculous amounts of meter sparking.
- Has a surprisingly big hitbox.
- Can combo into j.S in certain circumstances.
- Very similar to A18 2H.
Combo filler, clean and simple. Makes up a core component of his Slide Knockdown combos midscreen and post smash air combos with assists in the corner.
- L dashes forward and attacks, starts a Gear string.
- All versions have Anti-Air property.
- M and H versions can hold down the button and act as fake outs.
- M dashes fullscreen. Combos from 5H.
- H crosses over the opponent even in the corner, then attacks.
- When done after a barrier punish, holding it will result in a fast reset that will leave 17 plus right in front of his opponent, and since 17 travels an incredible distance in a second, the screen transition can confuse the opponent.
- Sways back before rushing in with identical properties to 236X. However, Driver follow-ups can be used before he dashes forward.
- 17 can even cancel into Accel Driver during his spin, combine 214H with 236L/M for a sneaky left/right mixup.
236S or 214S (Air OK) Driver > 6S or Driver > 4S
- Jumps onto the current wall and bounces back. Bouncing back animation can be cancelled into attacks. Air version can only be performed once until landing.
- 214S jumps backward, 236S jumps forward.
In the corner, 236S + Assist will spawn them at the edge of the screen and push the opponent out of the corner.
Power Blitz Charge
22S or Driver > 2S
- Both of 17's hands have hitboxes during the initial portion of the charging animation.
- Launches on hit.
- Charges on frame 11.
The pop-up style launch is very useful for getting an easy assist call, usually when you end a rekka string with the charge. From the assist hit, you can super dash (or with heavy stun assists like Bardock B, just jump) to follow up with an aerial combo, or stay on ground with a well timed Accel Driver.
22S after Charge (Air OK) Driver > 2S after Charge
- Causes a sliding knockdown on hit.
- Throws 2 balls downward. First ball arcs up while the second arcs down.
- Air version perfroms a fast fall after shooting.
- Loses charge on frame 16, the moment the first blast is thrown.
One of the best singular moves in the game. Tremendous reward in many situations, standing as a high damage combo finisher, instant win of neutral (with either tremendous oki or having a 6 frame advantage on block), and instantly puts 17 back on the ground, even on whiff. This means 17 is not relegated to being a sitting duck if he gets caught in the air, keeping his "annoying factor" sky high. The only problem being, of course, is that you need the charge the thing in the first place, but with 17 on point, assists and potentially his own B assist when he is not in play ensures he will have the opportunity to charge Power Blitz. Once you have the move, use it wisely and well, as it gives 17 tremendous status in neutral and solves his knockdown issues when he has it ready.
Gear attacks can cancel into one another even on whiff and in any order, with each Gear being able to be used once per Gear string. Gears can be also be cancelled into any other Special Moves as well, with one extra restriction: Accel Driver and Finishing Driver can only be used once per Special string.
If no direction in inputted, the order is: Top Gear > Second Gear > Low Gear.
Driver > 5L/M
- Very useful and quick frame trap.
All M Gears deal more damage and have more range than L version, with the extended range varies between moves.
Driver > 6L/M or j.236L/M/H
- Despite being an overhead attack, it doesn't have head property, meaning the move can't be 2H'd/anti-aired.
- Has an abhorring 60% initial proration, whereas other rekka moves have 70% when used as a combo starter.
- M version has enourmous range.
- M version can be combo'd into in the corner at low hitstun decay. Smash hit causes a sliding knockdown.
H version can be combo'd anywhere on screen with j.LLS > j.236H. Smash hit causes a ground bounce sliding knockdown, which can be extended with other Gears.
Driver > 2L/M
- M version doesn't have as much range as the other follow-ups.
Driver > 4L/M or j.214L/M/H
- Jumps forward and then fast falls down.
- Just like the overhead, the M version travels almost fullscreen.
- Air versions
- L jumps forward, M jumps backward, H falls in place.
In a blockstring, 2H > j.236H vs 2H > j.214H~2L is a simple high/low mixup.
Driver > 5H/S
- Press L/M/H/S to trigger the attack. Smash hit causes a wall bounce.
- Barrier on its own cannot cancel into other follow-ups.
- S version can only cancel into the attack after absorbing a hit. Gains 25% Ki gauge each hit absorbed.
- H version can use Ki Blast follow-up at any point. Doesn't gain meter from successful block, but can guard against Supers.
- Does barrier > Ki Blast followup, absorbed hits don't give any meter.
- Barrier activates at the 10th frame.
- Wall bounces on hit with really good hitstop and hitstun.
Power Blitz Charge
- Only does the charge.
- Point 17's Power Blitz will be charged after this assist is used.
- His first two hits of the rekka sequence.
- Even being a blockstun type C-assist, it has anti-air properties in his first hit, which makes it a little bit better than the others of it's kind.
- Tracks opponents, though it remains on the ground.
- Teleports behind
- Just like Cooler, DHC early will keep you on the same side while still get reduced damage, but 17 will still appear behind the opponent.
- KOing with this causes a kneeling animation.
- Minimum damage 891. Non-cinematic version has minimum damage 708
- Slow startup so Sliding Knockdown pickup is hard in some cases
236H+S (Air OK)
- 17 covers himself in a barrier and rushes forward the opponent, covering all the screen.
- The ground version corrects 17's position and puts him in the same height as his opponent.
- Fully invulnerable from frame 1.
- This is 17's DHC Super.
- Minimum damage 817. Non-cinematic version has minimum damage 708.
- Gives SKD, even in the air.
This super is the ultimate answer to anyone who gets too frisky with their supers. 17 can initiate drive-thru mode on that pesky Vegeta and his Final Flash, and punt him straight into the floor for only a single bar. This only adds to the annoyance factor of fighting 17, as he can usually get a free punish out of this, waste the opponent's meter, and it sets up nicely for DHC into another character. Often, when you are in the air, it may be worth spending the bar for a knockdown with this super, especially if your damage has been heavily scaled by a light, where 5S into aerial Second Gear just falls short. You may also have to choose this super over Endgame if you want to keep your side.
This super confirms that mashing against 17 is a terrible idea. Do not use raw supers against 17.
Super Electric Strike
214L+M or 214H+S (Air OK)
- Straight outta Xenoverse.
- Ground version makes 17 jump back a little bit.
- Minimum damage: 1680, so does not scale horribly despite low raw damage
Pretty solid as a reversal, although that would ignore how awesome Barrier Explosion is. Takes up most of the screen in all directions, thus the opponent cannot just jump over it to escape, although it has pretty underwhelming damage compared to other projectile supers. However, it doesn't scale too badly despite the low raw damage, meaning it's a solid combo ender if you have meter to burn.
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