DBFZ/Piccolo

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Overview

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Normal Moves

5L

5M

5H

5S

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.

  • Whiffs against airborne opponents when used in neutral. Mid-combo, grabbing airborne opponents will keep them airborne.
  • On hit, can continue down gatling table or cancel into Special, Supers.
  • Holding S will delay the grab but has much higher frame adv, able to combo into 5L.
  • Values in [ ] are for 5[S].

Piccolo's command grab normal. 5S is on the slower side for a command grab and leads to low reward on hit. Leaves the user +5 afterwards, so can potentially be used to reset pressure after landing it and go for a mix-up that leads to higher reward. Hold version's reward is slightly better but it's laughably slow.

With that said, if Piccolo uses this command grab at a point where his opponent has to look for different options, this move will succeed at grabbing the opponent, especially after the opponent is conditioned to look for something else.

2L

2M

2H

2S

6M

6S

Demon Shocker

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.

  • Shoots a rather slow beam about halfscreen forward.
  • Jails into vanish.

A decent beam projectile move with a couple of applications.

Demon Shocker has P1 durability, meaning that it will trade with ki blasts and lose to P2 beams. From mid range, it's a decent tool to snipe out opponents who like to use superdash and ki blasts frequently. The hitbox is fairly thin and the move has plenty of recovery, so take caution when using Demon Shocker in neutral.

On offense, this move is a great way to end blockstrings. You can call an assist afterward and go for his staggering amount of mix-up options to keep his opponents on their toes. One thing to point out is that Demon Shocker is Piccolo's ONLY way to jail into vanish, making it a solid tool to reset pressure.

Demon Shocker is also a great move for combo filler, allowing for great extensions in the corner that significantly boosts his damage output.

3S

Demon Shocker

j.L

j.M

j.H

j.S

j.2H

Special Moves

Demon Elbow

236L/M/H (Air OK)

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
Ground L
Air L
Ground [L]
Air [L]
Ground M
Air M
Ground [M]
Air [M]
Ground H
Air H
Ground [H]
Air [H]

  • Glides straight forward, can crossover the opponent and only trigger the attack after crossing over.
  • Air versions will slightly descend if the opponent is underneath Piccolo.
  • Values in [ ] are when the opponent is in untechable time.

  • 236L goes a very short distance forward. If crosses over, will attack from behind the opponent.

When used in conjunction with Piccolo's other tools, it is surprisingly good for catching people considering the lengthy start-up and the massive gap in blockstring. Vanish or assists are required to extend into combos.

Whiff version of j.236X can be used repeatedly and even after double jump, thus you can think of them as pseudo airdashes.


  • 236M goes almost fullscreen. If crosses over, will attack from behind the opponent.
  • Smash hit causes a wall splat, allowing for extensions in the corner.

Mainly a filler for back-to-corner combos or before Vanishing to stay same side.


  • 236H goes almost fullscreen. If crosses over, will teleport back to the front before attacking.
  • Smash hit causes a wall bounce, allowing for conversions anywhere on screen.

Mind twist mix-up once the opponent is conditioned to block the cross-up.

j.236H becomes +5 on block if performed near the ground like from tk.236H or 2H > j.236H, but this fairly slow and can be anti-aired on reaction.

Demon Slicer

214L/M/H

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
L
M
H

  • Has guard point against non-Super strikes and projectiles during the pose, then teleport upward before attacking. Getting hit during the pose will trigger the teleport immediately.
  • Values in [ ] are when the opponent is in untechable time.

All versions are useful for punishing opponents who like to push buttons during blockstrings and can act as some sort of a left/right mixup, however, they're also all vulnerable to anti-airs.


  • 214L teleports slightly backward.
  • If guard point is triggered or when the opponent is in untechable time, teleports to above them.
  • Ground bounces on hit, which can combo into Vanish or Supers.

  • 214M teleports about halfscreen forward, won't overshoot the opponent, but stay just far enough to switches sides and can steal the corner.
  • Smash hit causes sliding knockdown.

  • 214H teleports above the opponent.
  • Smash hit causes sliding knockdown.

Air Demon Slicer

j.214L/M/H

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
L
M
H

  • j.214L dives diagonally downward.

Since Piccolo j.H launches the opponent horizontally on hit, this is typically used instead as a Smash-less knockdown to lower the opponent for assisted combos or grounded Vanish extensions.


  • j.214M dives straight downward.
  • Smash hit causes sliding knockdown.

Corner combo ender at low hitstun decay. j.214M causes Piccolo to fall faster than the opponent, so at high up, he'll be grounded before they are and can combo into Hellzone Grenade for big damage. At even higher up, he can link to 5L for even bigger damage.


  • j.214H dives diagonally downward.
  • Smash hit causes sliding knockdown.

Really good combo ender at the cost of half a bar. It's fast so can be used in midscreen or in place of corner j.214M at high hitstun decay, and the sliding knockdown can always combo into Hellzone.

Homing Energy Blast

236S

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.

  • Puts out a tracking Ki Blast-property orb. Disappears if Piccolo lands a DR, tags out, or gets hit.
  • Holding S during startup will put out a bigger but slower orb.

The keystone of Piccolo's neutral as he can put it out and approach while the opponent has to find a way to deal with it. He can also use it as a meaty projectile that covers for all delay wake ups while regenerating assists. Furthermore, meaty orb will "wiggle" on top of the opponent's body and can sometimes hit from behind them, pushing them out of the corner which turn your IAD overhead into an IAD crossup.

Charged version is less useful in neutral due to how slow it is, but can be better as a meaty since the bigger hitbox covers for more wake up options.

Z Assists

Assist A

Homing Energy Blast

Assist B

Demon Shocker

Assist C

Demon Slicer

Super Moves

Special Beam Cannon

236L+M

Hellzone Grenade

236H+S

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.

  • Throws a volley of projectiles that become active and home in on the opponent, one-by-one.
  • Doesn't have Super Scaling.
  • Minimum damage: 52*12.

Lockdown Super that blows the screen up and covers for your mixups. Can be truestring'd into from something like 5H + Assist > 236H+S, though this is often vulnerable to Guard Cancel. Single-hit assists with high hitstop can allow Piccolo to throw out Hellzone and recover before the GC can hit, while this can be countered by GC-ing at 5H instead of at the assist/during Hellzone's super freeze, it's still a strong option that should be considered when building a Piccolo team.

Also used as a high damaging meter dump since Piccolo can combo afterward into j.DR for a sliding knockdown and then into even more Supers.

Is not used for oki since the opponent can simply wakeup Reflect or delay wakeup Reflect and negate the whole Super altogether.

Light Grenade

214L+M or 214H+S

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.

  • Causes a hard knockdown on hit.
  • Minimum damage: 166*10.

A beam styled level 3. While the minimum damage is on the lower side, it does all of the damage extremely quickly, allowing you to deal heavy burst damage. This makes Light Grenade ideal against sparking.

Light Grenade leaves Piccolo and the opponent fullscreen on hit in midscreen. This makes it less ideal, as you can only get a meaty afterward.

Light Grenade thrives in the corner. There are two types of mix-ups you can do. You can left/right 50/50 the opponent by TK'ing L Demon Elbow (2369L for same side or 741236L for side switch), or you can hold L Demon Elbow to steal the corner and leaves you at most +14. This allows you to go for a 4-way mix-up alongside the other unique options he has. Whatever you choose, it's a horrible position for the opponent. Go wild.

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