DBFZ/SSB Goku

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Overview

Goku (SSGSS) or more commonly known as "SSB Goku", "Bluku"/"Blueku", or "Goku Blue" has excellent frame data and a plethora of mix-up options that allow him to overwhelm the opponent in blockstrings. His neutral is very strong with a divekick and ki-blast invul lariat, his ki-blast are above average and he has long reach on his medium normals.

"This is what it looks like to go beyond Super Saiyan God!"
Lore:Some time after defeating Majin Buu, Goku works as a radish farmer, before he hears about Beerus, a God of Destruction of legendary power. Yet, Goku was unable to defeat him on his own however, even with a mastered Super Saiyan 3 form. From Shenron, Goku would hear about the Super Saiyan God ritual, and with five pure hearted Saiyans pouring their energy into him, Goku became a Super Saiyan God to fight Beerus, and later absorbed this power into his base form. After attaining this new height in power, Goku started to train with the God of Destruction Beerus' teacher, Whis, after hearing Vegeta was already there, and both would expand upon their powers. The end result of his training is a new level of power, the "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan": a blue-haired super form that combines the Super Saiyan God and a Super Saiyan, the likes of which represents the greatest height of fighting prowess yet attainable by Saiyans exclusively.

 SSB Goku  SSB Goku has a similar fighting style to that of his SS form, with long reaching normals and good frame data. Goku Blue on the other hand serves as a more mix-up oriented version of his SS counterpart. He has a 2L low, command grab, falling mix-up off of heavy divekick and teleport 50/50's all be it very gimmicky without assist. His massive toolbox allows him to layer his mix ups options efficiently and make defending him difficult to say the least.

Pros
Cons
  • Strong Neutral Options: Very powerful ki blast, j.S in particular keeps his air momentum allowing him to approach safely, Divine Void Strike which beats ki blasts, Dragon Flash Kick and Instant Transmission.
  • Strong Medium Normals: Very active, very fast, high reward and surprisingly short recovery on his medium normals. SSB Goku's 2M and 5/4M are some of the best of their kind, serving as excellent long range moves to check the opponent.
  • Oppressive Close-Range: Good frame date making his stagger strong, 2L low, and an unreactable command grab.
  • Versatile Combo Routes: Dragon Flash Kick gives Goku meterless sliding knockdowns and high damage vanish extensions. Instant Transmission allows him to side switch or stay same side easily on super dash confirms.
  • Strong Supers: Access to a level 5 and a tracking level 1 that gives him a sliding knockdown.
  • High corner damage: SSB Goku's corner loops give him extremely high damage, solo or assisted.
  • High Commitment Moves: His neutral tools, while good, most are very high commitment and need to be timed well. He prefers neutral assists to function well, as he can't reliably get in by himself.
  • Potentially Resource Dependent: Requires a lot of conditioning to open opponents up without using heavy Dragon Flash Kick mix-ups. High risk neutral without assist.


SSB Goku
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Normal Moves

5L
5L
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The online special
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5L

Standard jab, and Goku's fastest normal.

4LL > 2M or 2LL > 2M are really strong stagger string.

5LL
  • Launches on hit.

Strong normal in pressure thanks to the fact that it hits low and can cancel into another low, an overhead, a grab, or even sides switches.

The large amount of hitstun combined with a low hitbox also allow SSB Goku to go for more unique combo routes.

5LLL
  • 5LL > 5LLL has a massive gap in between.
  • Combos into SD midsceen or even links to air normals in the corner.

Very slow, highly telegraphed, and the reward isn't so big. Since the threat of 214X exists, the opponent will be more likely to mash and they'll punish 5LLL outright if it's not covered with assists.

5M
5M
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  • Holding 4 during startup will reduce forward momentum and recovery.

5M has extremely good range, even longer reach than 2M. 5M with dash momentum is very scary.

5M[4] (or simply 4M) is the safest normal he has that also pushes the opponent just far enough that he can safely backdash out of almost every 5L/2L. 2M > 4M also auto spaces him for another 2M.

5H
5H
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  • Wall splats on Smash hit. Combos into SD.
  • Non-Smash only combos into SD in the corner.

Used for block string and combo filler.

5S
5S
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  • Mash or hold S to shoot all 6 Ki blasts.
  • Last Ki blast launches on hit.

This is his only grounded projectile, making it vital for his neutral game.

You should always only use 2 Ki blasts. Shooting less is safer overall, shooting more is easier to confirm, 2 is the perfect amount to react with 2H punish or Vanish confirm.

2L
2L
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Had to go SSGSS to learn how to poke toes
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Fast low with short range, making it his go to low for mix-ups out of jump-ins or assists.

2M
2M
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Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan normal
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  • Great range and very active hitbox.
  • Launches on hit.

His third low. IAD j.S ▷ 2M has deceptively long range.

Arguably the best 2M in the game with its combination of fast startup, low recovery, low profile, deceptive reach, and high reward, making it a force to be reckoned with during neutral and offense. On block, 2M 2M and 5S 2M beat mashing more often than you'd expect. 5S 2M is also especially strong since it also spaces Goku for his 2M > 4M shenanigans.

You can also just throw this out in neutral/scrambles and watch as they get hit by it second-guessing themselves.

2H
2H
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  • Puts Goku airborne.
  • Smash hit has more hitstun and combos into SD.

Go to anti-air, though since it has a firmly vertical hitbox and a large amount of recovery it should be used carefully.

Smash hit can also combo into j.236S for a quick sides switch into SKD.

On block, cancel into j.236L to stay safe (-2) or j.214H with an assist for mixups.

6M
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  • Counts as airborne.
  • Uses the same hitboxes and hurtboxes as Goku's j.H.
j.L
j.L
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Standard air jab.

j.M
j.M
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Great air-to-air. IAD j.M is also Goku's best cross-up option. On hit, confirms with 2M or microdash 5L, depending on the height.

j.H
j.H
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5LLLLLLL
  • Smash hit can wall bounce.
j.H
  • Smash hit causes sliding knockdown.

Go-to jump in.

j.S
j.S
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Shades of Akuma
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  • Doesn't halt air momentum like most j.S.
  • Doesn't launches airborne opponent like most j.S, instead it pushes them down.

Forward IAD j.S beats anti-airs and puts Goku +10 at minimum.

Due to maintaining full momentum, IAD j.X > j.S will make Goku visually pulls out the Ki blast, but it would almost never come out before he lands and there would be no landing recovery. Mean while, IAD j.M(L)2H > delay j.S would always connect. j.S214L coincidentally is also a true tickthrow in the corner. So not only is GC reflecting a pure gamble due to the tickthrow and can be baited into 2M punish, but the thought of reflecting j.S at all is a gamble because the Ki blast might not even come out.

j.2H
j.2H
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  • Smash hit has more hitstun and combos into SD.

Basic air launcher. Similar to 2H, Smash j.2H can also combo into j.236S.

Special Moves

Divine Void Strike
Divine Void Strike
236L/M/H (Air OK)
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Original move
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  • Removes other landing recovery.
Ground L
Air L
  • Deflects Ki blasts from frame 4.
  • Goes almost half screen.

A safe blockstring ender and a great combo filler, used in Goku's advanced combos.

Ground M
Air M
  • Deflects Ki blasts from frame 4.
  • Goes 75% of the screen.
  • Smash hit can wall splat. Smash 5MMM can wall bounce.

Cancelling into move from ANY normal will have a small gap that beats mashing, or in the case of 2H > j.236M, it beats even counter 2H.

Used in corner BnBs. Smash j.236M also link into j.DR in the corner for an easy snapback.

Ground H
Air H
  • Deflects Ki blasts from frame 1.
  • Teleports toward to the other wall, then charges backward.
  • Goes fullscreen. Air version has slight vertical tracking.
  • Wall bounces on Smash hit.
  • Air version on ground block (2H > j.236H + assist) leaves Goku at -5 in the air.

A good neutral check that can be solo converted anywhere on screen.

Not a good idea to use as a reversal as the invul from teleporting comes in too late.

Super God Shock Flash
Super God Shock Flash
214L/M/H
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"Hey, what's that on your shirt?"
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TICK THROW
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  • Smash on the throw.
  • Values in [] is if the throw whiffs.
  • Can only grab grounded or "grounded-by-proximity" opponents.
  • D Smash grab has identical effect to 214L.
  • After the grab has landed in the combo, not only can't Goku grab a second time, the followup punch also won't connect anymore.
L
  • Stays in place. If the grab whiffs, does a short ranged punch as followup.
  • On hit, the grab knocks the opponent away into a SKD, while the punch only launches them.

At 17f of startup, it's the only unreactable command grab in the game that not only gives you SKD oki, but also can be converted without Supers. The only weakness 214L has over other 17f grabs is its short range, usually requiring a microdash to connect mid-blockstring.

M
  • Teleports a short distance forward before the grab.
  • U Smash hit wall bounces.

The initial warp gives this more range. When used mid blockstring, even in midscreen, the opponent cannot hold 4 and walk out of the grab.

Though, it's almost half the speed of 214L and the lack of a follow-up makes it incredibly unsafe.

H
  • Has the range of 214M and the safe punch of 214L.
  • U Smash hit wall bounces.

Can be converted meterlessly even in midscreen, though it's still easily reactable and doesn't do much more damage than 214M.

† Currently bugged, dealing regular amount of blue health (instead of no blue health) and building a tiny bit of meter on Smash hit unlike other EX specials.

Dragon Flash Kick
Dragon Flash Kick
j.214L/M/H
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"Wait a sec... This isn't Flash Kick...!"
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L
  • Reels back a tiny bit before diving 45 degree downward.
  • Advantage ranges from -1 to -6. 2H > j.214L is a true blockstring that leaves Goku at -3 on the ground.

One of the fastest divekicks in the game. Can be used to get in and out of pressure. Also good as a crossup fakeout as on hit it keeps the opponent grounded for assist extension.

Does slightly more damage than j.H and can combo from j.S, making this move slightly more preferable to j.H in assisted and Vanish combos.

M
  • Smash hit causes sliding knockdown.
  • Advantage ranges from -1 to -6. 2H > j.214M has a gap that beats counter 2H, leaves Goku at -3 on the ground.

Goku's anywhere meterless SKD. It's almost always better than j.H as a solo combo ender.

H
  • On hit, follows the opponent down to the ground before doing a quick sideswitching 2-hit combo. Smash on the last hit, causes sliding knockdown.
  • On block, after touching the ground, switches sides and teleports up in the air. Can steal corner and is at a height where he can airdash over anybody for a double sideswitch.
  • Advantage ranges from -3 to -7. 2H > j.214H is a true blockstring that leaves Goku at -4 in the air.

j.S > j.214H is an okay solo combo ender in case you can't use j.214M, but where this move really shines is as a mixup tool covered by assists.

After a blocked j.214H, Goku can do a 4-way mixup with empty 2L, empty 214L, airdash crossup j.S, late airdash same side j.L. However, late airdash j.L while universal is rather hard to pull off, the entire setup requires good blockstun assists and a 2H in the string, so it's susceptible to GC.

Instant Transmission
Instant Transmission
236S or 214S (Air OK)
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"Did he just remember he could do that?"
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"Your father's an idiot."
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236S
or j.236S
214S
or j.214S
  • Teleporting kick that tracks anywhere on screen. 236S goes behind the opponent, 214S goes in front. Uses the direction Goku's facing to determine how he teleports.
  • After teleporting, the move still has some vertical tracking to make sure it connects.
  • Smash hit causes sliding knockdown.

High risk, decent reward neutral check. It's easily 2H-able if the opponent is ready, but you get some oki if it hits and solo pressure if they block it. Useful for side-switching off of 2H as well. You can combo off of this if it hits them against the corner, but you won't be able to get sliding knockdown easily.

Z Assists

Assist A
Dragon Flash Kick
Assist A Actually does something now
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  • Has some horizontal tracking.
  • Ground bounce into sliding knockdown on hit.

A screen control assist, cutting through almost everything in neutral. On hit, the ground bounce also enables unique air-to-ground extension unlike most other pop-up assists.

Can also be used right before a low recovery Super like Bardock and AGohan's 236LM for a SKD they otherwise wouldn't get.

Assist B
Divine Void Strike
Assist B
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Original assist
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  • Deflects Ki Blasts.
  • Launches on hit.

Basic strike assist. Good for raw Super Dash + assist.

Assist C
Instant Transmission
Assist C
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  • Tracks the opponent anywhere on screen.
  • On hit, teleports behind the opponent and knocks them down into a ground bounce SKD.

Super Moves

Extreme Speed Kamehameha
Extreme Speed Kamehameha
236L+M or 236H+S (Air OK)
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"You're finished!"
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"EYAAAAH!"
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Ground
Air
  • Doing raw, ground version will slightly adjust position for that it hits, air version stays still.
  • Mid-combo, both version teleports to the opponent instead, though the angle isn't always the best. Always shows up from the direction Goku's facing.
  • Last hit causes sliding knockdown.
  • Minimum damage: 75*10 (750).

Similar to SS Goku, he does have safe jump setup from this with j.LL2H > j.236L+M into airdash j.H, but it's not universal.

x10 Kaioken Kamehameha
x10 Kaioken Kamehameha
214L+M or 214H+S
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"KAIOKEN!"
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"I'll finish this right now!"
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"THERE YOU ARE!"
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x10 Kaioken Kamehameha
Evolved Attack
Hold L/M/H/S on hit
  • Hits fullscreen.
  • There are 2 spots where you can hold a button for a sideswitch or double sideswitches. A "free" one before the upward kick, and one that cost 2 extra Ki gauges after the kick.
  • Minimum damage: 1759, add 900 if 5 bars are used for a new total of 2659.

Only do the 2 bar extension if you wanna see the cool animation (or if it kills) because it obliterates your oki otherwise, even if you keep same side.

Navigation

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