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* Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.
* Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.
* Guard point does not activate on frame 1, but it’s very early.
* Guard point does not activate on frame 1, but it’s very early.
* Blocks projectiles, mid and low attacks.
* Blocks projectiles, mid, low, DP and overhead attacks. loses to supers
* Loses to throws, supers, and overheads, ironic since it's a volleyball bump.
* Due to having guard point, this version will scale your combos and followups more than L version.
* Due to having guard point, this version will scale your combos and followups more than L version.
* Reaches full-screen.
* Reaches full-screen.
Even though only the pose has guard point, successfully blocking incoming attack will make the slide invulnerable to strikes and projectiles that aren't Supers. If timed correctly, Tien can go right through beams.
* If used during your blockstring, it will block the opponents buttons if they attempt to mash out.
Guard point is active when Tien enters the pose and remains for the very beginning of the slide. If Tien is hit while his guardpoint is active it extends to cover the rest of the move, allowing him to slide through beams and other large attacks. due to the move being unpunishable on block, this makes 236M good for stagger pressure or calling out an opponents offense.
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* 236H is a short ranged command grab that costs half a bar.
* 236H is a short ranged command grab that costs half a bar.
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* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Causes a sliding knockdown.
* Scales like 236M.
* Scales like 236M.
An useful tool to confuse someone who's blocking too much in a corner.
* Possesses a guardpoint like 236M, which blocks all the same types of attacks too.
An honest grab which is incredibly powerful thanks to its guardpoint, it can be used to create powerful conditioning on your opponent when combined with 236M and j.236H, forcing them to respect your blockstrings.
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===<big>Volleyball Fist<br>Follow-up 1</big>===
===<big>Volleyball Fist<br>Follow-up 1</big>===
<span class="input-badge">'''Volleyball Fist {{clr|2|L}}/{{clr|3|M}} > {{clr|2|L}}/{{clr|3|M}}/{{clr|5|H}} on hit'''</span>
<span class="input-badge">'''Volleyball Fist {{clr|2|L}}/{{clr|3|M}} > {{clr|2|L}}/{{clr|3|M}}/{{clr|5|H}} on hit'''</span>

Revision as of 19:27, 13 August 2021

Overview

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Normal Moves

5L

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
5L
5LL
5LLL

  • Larger range than average.
  • 6 frames.

  • Good forward momentum for long range confirms.
  • 2 hits, which also helps with confirms.

  • Gimmicky place to sneak in a command grab, but you can also sneak in a low with 236L/M.
  • Has enough blockstun to safely switch Tien out to another character while the move is still active.

5LLL is a standard fair LLL launcher, does 9 hits allowing more time to think through next step than LLL usually allows if you ended up mashing it out. Usually you got this by accident.

5M

5H

5S

2L

2M

2H

6M

j.L

j.M

j.H

j.S

j.2H

Special Moves

Volleyball Fist

236L/M/H

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
L
M
H

  • 236L performs a sliding low attack.
  • Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.

The quick version of the Volleyball Fist. Useful for catching opponents off guard or spamming high attacks.


  • 236M strikes a pose, gaining guard point before doing a sliding low attack.
  • Press additional buttons on hit-confirm to extend the special.
  • Guard point does not activate on frame 1, but it’s very early.
  • Blocks projectiles, mid, low, DP and overhead attacks. loses to supers
  • Due to having guard point, this version will scale your combos and followups more than L version.
  • Reaches full-screen.
  • If used during your blockstring, it will block the opponents buttons if they attempt to mash out.

Guard point is active when Tien enters the pose and remains for the very beginning of the slide. If Tien is hit while his guardpoint is active it extends to cover the rest of the move, allowing him to slide through beams and other large attacks. due to the move being unpunishable on block, this makes 236M good for stagger pressure or calling out an opponents offense.


  • 236H is a short ranged command grab that costs half a bar.
  • Follow-up hits are automatic and cannot be vanished out of.
  • Stays same side.
  • Causes a sliding knockdown.
  • Scales like 236M.
  • Possesses a guardpoint like 236M, which blocks all the same types of attacks too.

An honest grab which is incredibly powerful thanks to its guardpoint, it can be used to create powerful conditioning on your opponent when combined with 236M and j.236H, forcing them to respect your blockstrings.

Volleyball Fist
Follow-up 1

Volleyball Fist L/M > L/M/H on hit

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
L
M
H

  • L/M switches side.
    • An important tool if you want to reposition yourself behind the enemy. Usually most useful if the "wall" behind you is closer than the one in front of you.
  • H leaves Tien enough time to land j.M.
    • By delaying button press so that Tien doesn't do Follow-up 2, you can start air combos with this. Very useful when you want to get a sliding knockdown with good oki, along with some relatively decent damage off a special move.

  • Damage depends on what the starter is. 236L will scale better and do more damage than 236M.
  • All version launches the enemy vertically and follows them into the air.
  • Pressing an additional button will cause Tien to slam the enemy to the ground.

Volleyball Fist
Follow-up 2

Volleyball Fist Follow-up 1 > L/M/H on hit

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
L
M
H

  • L knocks the opponent straight down.
  • M knocks the opponent a little further away than the L version.
  • H knocks the opponent even further away into a sliding knockdown.
  • Using this after the H version of Follow-up 1 will keep Tien grounded for additional combos. Given that the cost for an EX special is now half of a bar instead of a full bar, and the damage done by this alone is considerable, it's probably worth going for this now.

  • Damage depends on what the starter is. Starts with 236L will do more damage than 236M.
  • If you time it perfectly on any version, it does extra damage and has Smash property.
  • [] is on just frame.

Air Volleyball Fist

j.236L/M/H

Crane Strike

214L/M/H (Air OK)

Dodon Ray

236S (Air OK)

Telekinesis

214S

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
Normal
Fail

  • Tracks the opponent anywhere on screen. Deals very high hitstop and hitstun on hit.
  • Won't perform the move if Chiaotzu is still on screen or after he self-destructs.
  • Every third use will not work and will leave Tien vulnerable.
  • Beside the Ki gain on hit, normal calls also build 10% Ki gauge even on whiff and 25% on failed call. This special Ki gain is not affected by Ki gain penalty.

On hit, can be converted into a solo combo anywhere on screen.

Can be used after every knockdown, but best at the corner.

Z Assists

Assist A

Dodon Ray

Assist B

Telekinesis

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.

  • Does 214S but unlike the point version, this assist doesn't fail every third use.
  • Builds 10% Ki Gauge each call. Is not affected by Ki gain penalty.
  • After Chiaotzu self-destructs, Tien does not attack and only shows up to build meter.

Similar to Gotenks A assist as it holds opponent in place, allowing for vast utility to expand combos full-screen, help get sliding knockdowns or meterless snapbacks, and fortify pressure with its high blockstun. Rather slow start-up and has worse tracking than his own 214S, so needs some labbing and getting used to.

Assist C

Volleyball Fist

Super Moves

Tri-Beam

236L+M or 236H+S (Air OK)

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
Ground
Air
Ground Extension
Air Extension

  • Deals unrecoverable 750 damage to Tien. Tien cannot die from self damage, and can use this even at 1 HP.
  • Self damage decreases during Sparking or Limit Break, and becomes 0 with both activated (See here)
  • Minimum damage: 1032.

This is the second highest damaging Lv1 Super at max scaling, losing only to Base Goku's Kaioken x20.


  • Hold L/M/H/S during Tri-Beam's startup for this version.
  • L or M keeps the Tiens lined up on the same side, H or S shoots from both sides.
  • Minimum damage: 1426.

Can whiff sometimes on DHCs or high hitstun decay combos.

Neo Tri-Beam

214L+M (Air OK)

Farewell, Tien...

214H+S

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.

  • Travels in a straight horizontal line, level with the enemy when the move is initiated. Whiffs on crouching characters.
  • Cannot be cancelled into.
  • Won't come out if Chiaotzu is still doing Telekinesis. Chiaotzu also goes away if Tien is hit during the attack.
  • On hit, Telekinesis, B Assist, and this super become unavailable for the rest of the match.
  • Minimum damage: 2610.

Absurdly high damaging combo ender but lacks the versatility of his other Supers.

On hit, plays a really long grieving animation after the explosion that doesn't freeze time, allowing Sparking opponents to regenerate their health. This along with the low raw damage makes the Super useless for damage if they survive.

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