DBFZ/Videl

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Overview
Overview

Videl is certainly an odd case in Dragon Ball FighterZ. Often referred to as the worst character in the game by many, she's a character that bleeds weaknesses that severely hold her back. On top of low damage and somewhat awkward normals, perhaps the most glaring issue is her lack of a Reflect, replaced by a spot-dodge that does not help her in any way, only really giving her access to very specific advantages that can be exploited easily. Videl does struggle in many aspects of DBFZ, but one of the aspects she does not struggle in is her mixups. For all of her shortcomings, Videl is a very strong character when she's able to start mixing people up, especially with assists. She can very much scare people into blocking one way but getting hit the other, and she has solid okizeme all across the screen. This gives Videl some really strong pressure when she can get started, making sure the opponent has to respect her somewhat due to this. While her damage isn't great, her consistent okizeme and ability to set up pressure at least help this a little, giving more opportunities to find this damage and pressure. If Videl gets started, she can mix people up for a very long time. Videl may be an odd choice, but if you like the pressure and underdog status she brings, then she might be the character for you.

"I wouldn't look down on me if I were you. I can hold my own in a fight."
Lore:The daughter of Mr. Satan, "the world's champion that defeated Cell". After discovering her schoolmate Son Gohan’s secret identity as the Great Saiyaman, Videl got him to train her using a blackmail-type of threat. She then became very strong for a human and developed a liking for Gohan.

 Videl  Videl is a mixup character with bad defense and low damage, but extremely powerful vortex options that can suffocate the opponent.

Pros
Cons
  • Human Blender: Great mixup potential; several options available to her at all times.
  • Carries Momentum: Good okizeme options and SKD anywhere on the screen.
  • Average Neutral: Decent neutral options overall along with a projectile that beats superdash.
  • Combo Super: Her level 1 super, Rainbow Storm, can use smash to keep a combo going afterwards. High meter gain helps the super bump her damage.
  • No Traditional Reflect: Z-Reflect is replaced with a frankly terrible spot-dodge, crippling her defense and making her easy to roll. Perhaps the worst weakness a character could have.
  • Poor Normals: Very bad frame data, several gaps in pressure and unsafe buttons. Awkward air normals enable a few corner combos while limiting all of her other combos. 2H has terrible range, making Videl's defense even worse.
  • Low Average Damage: Most of her mixups heavily scale her damage.

Videl's Reflect is replaced with a Spotdodge that has a myriad of issues.

At the very least, Videl has an alternate costume. Hold down A1 (Assist 1/L1 on a DS4) while selecting her.


Videl
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Normal Moves

5L
5L
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5L
  • Has a high hitbox
5LL
5LLL
  • Switches sides on hit.
  • Cancelling into this from a blocked 5LL always leaves the opponent in too much blockstun for the throw to work.
5M
5M
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  • Can be used twice in a string by inputting 4MM.

One of Videl's better buttons. The fact that she can use 4MM to use it twice helps her a lot in terms of pressure and strings, as not only does it add on damage in the case of it hitting, but her 2M being as slow as it is means that 4MM gives her a bit of a replacement in some regards. It's also good for snagging characters out of the air higher than Videl, and is a prime button to combo into 6H with.

5H
5H
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Orochi!
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  • Uses up Videl's Smash
  • Wall bounces if Smash hasn't been used

Videl does a tetsuzanko like Akira from Virtua Fighter.

5S
5S
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  • Can be superdashed through
  • Can go through ki blasts

Videl calls the Great Saiyaman to do a dashing punch.

2L
2L
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A godsend for Videl considering her slower than average 2M.

2M
2M
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  • Moves Videl forward a bit. Somewhat slow.
  • When used in blockstrings, it is slow enough to be reflected or reversal'd. This might not happen every time, but is important to keep in mind
2H
2H
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Tenko!
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  • Universal Anti-Air
  • Uses up Videl's Smash
  • Launches higher with more hitstun if Smash hasn't been used
2S
2S
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Saiyamen! Use Aura Sphere!
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  • Can be superdashed through

Videl calls the Great Saiyaman to throw a level 1 ki blast. Mostly an oki tool, but j.2S is better served for that purpose.

6M
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  • Universal overhead
  • Uses animation and hitboxes/hurtboxes of j.H

It's an overhead. Can only be converted off of with an assist, meaty, or an airdash/vanish cancel in sparking.

6H
6H
Justice Combination
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  • A 3-hit combo normal.
  • Invincible to ki blast projectiles.
  • The gaps inbetween each hit beat buttons, but lose to reflects and reversals.
  • Special-cancellable on every hit and 6M cancellable as well.
  • 6H(x) delay 6M will beat reflect

Videl's command normal. Very useful for her grounded routes, as it allows her to not only have great corner carry but gives her a solid combo option that doesn't use up her Smash, which gives her potential to combo into her Level 1 and get extensions. It's not fantastic in blockstrings but can be good if you catch your opponent mashing light inbetween your strings. It can have some small use as a bait as it can cancel into the command grab, but you're better off using different strings if possible. Also has some use as a meaty of sorts, although this isn't as useful.

j.L
j.L
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This normal is surprisingly good and can even be used sometimes as an air to air to catch SuperDashes.

j.M
j.M
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  • Good range, good for crossup. 5M is guaranteed to hit after a successfull j.M.
j.H
j.H
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  • [] is on Smash hit
  • Deals below average damage for a j.H
j.S
j.S
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  • Cannot be superdashed through

The Great Saiyaman does a divekick at about a 60 degree angle. Can be linked off of in the corner.

j.2H
j.2H
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  • Uses up Videl's Smash
  • Launches higher with more hitstun if Smash hasn't been used
  • Very good vertical range, can be used to cover both uptech and normal tech after a Sliding knockdown.
  • Does not change air momentum like other launching j.2Hs
j.S
j.2S
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They freaked it
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  • Cannot be superdashed through
  • Always causes a sliding knockdown on hit
  • Doesn't use up smash, so you can follow up with a lvl1 into a combo.

The Great Saiyaman does a divekick straight down. Has a lot of use for sliding knockdown setups in the corner, as it will cover almost every single tech option if timed properly, and force the opponent in a blocking situation no matter what.

Unique Mechanics

Z-Reflect
Z-Reflect (Spotdodge)
4S
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Whoa!
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  • Videl reels back and dodges into the background
  • If struck by any blockable attack, gain temporary invuln and recover quicker.

Kaiokek please fill the framedata

Special Moves

Videl Rush
Videl Rush
236L/M/H
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236X
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L
  • Videl does a forward kick.

The start of her rekka pressure, less damaging than 236M, but has a quicker startup. So If 236M doesn't hit consistently, better use 236L.

M

Better than 236L because it goes farther, does more damage, and still combos from 6H. But it has a slower startup than 236L, making it a bit more tricky to use.

H

Has the same startup as 236L, while being more damaging than 236M and it reaches 3/4 of the screen. Can be used to try to get in, in neutral.

Videl Rush Follow-ups
Videl Rush Follow-ups
Videl Rush > L/M/H
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236XL
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236XLL
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236XLLL 236XM
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236XH
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L
  • Hits overhead.
  • Doesn't have Head property, cannot be Anti-air'd.
  • Automatic Frame Trap. (So can be reflected)

Videl does an elbow drop. Because it's an overhead (that must be blocked standing), it forms a good mixup between it and her 214X moves (which have to be crouched).

LL
  • Last attack that doesn't use Smash in the series.
  • Multihit, easy to call assists and extend combos.
LLL
  • Consumes Smash.
  • Wallbounces on hit.
  • Causes Videl to go into a landing animation, even if she combos afterwards.
  • Cancelable into an airdash.

Your go-to meterless corner combo extender. You can use 236L+M instead for more damage but it's generally not worth it.

M
  • 22M, but mid rekka.

Command cross up from rekkas, uses Smash. Good to have.

H
  • 214H, but mid rekka.
  • Cannot hit crouching opponents.

Command grab from rekkas, uses Smash. Forms a basic mixup with the L follow up, but it's more expensive than stopping after 236X and using 2L while also being less rewarding and about as risky.

Air Videl Rush
Air Videl Rush
j.236L/M/H
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The OTHER people's Videlbow.
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L
  • Results in a soft knockdown.

This is Videl's primary combo extender with an assist, as it outdamages j.H. By a lot.

M
  • Results in sliding knockdown on it's first use in a combo.

This is Videl's primary combo ender, It will always slide knockdown.

H
  • Results in sliding knockdown on it's first use in a combo.

Kind of useless as j.236M does the same thing for free.

Frankensteiner
Frankensteiner
214L/M/H (Air OK)
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Both sides of Cammy: the Divekick and the Throw
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"God I wish that were me"
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Ground L
Air L
  • Videl's command grab.
  • Results in a sliding knockdown
Ground M
Air M
  • Tap M for a sliding knock down, hold M for Videl to throw the opponent outwards
  • Can combo off held version if the opponent its thrown into the corner or vanish is used
Ground H
Air H
  • The Great Saiyaman comes out and bumps the opponent back to Videl, allowing for a combo. Hold the button for the Great Sayiaman to not come out.

  • All versions whiff crouchers
Moonsault Kick
Moonsault Kick
22L/M/H (Air OK)
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Ground L
Air L
Ground M
Air M
Ground H
Air H
  • All versions cross up on the opponent.
  • All versions jail after vanish if blocked.
  • M and H versions use smash on hit to create a ground bounce (or wallbounce if opponent is launched into a corner)
Rising Eagle
Rising Eagle
214S
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RISING JAGGA
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  • Fully invincible from frame 1

Videl's go-to reversal, as it is meterless and invincible frame 1. She can get SKD off of vanish if it connects so this is very easy to confirm into a good situation for Videl, and can be used in blockstrings with very small gaps to catch your opponent, but like most DPs it can be safejumped and/or baited out easily, so try not to go too crazy with it.

Z Assists

Assist A
Videl Rush
Assist A
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  • Goes about as far as Bardock's assist.

It's literally just Bardock's assist, but with slightly more hitstun.

Assist B
Eagle Rush
Assist B
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Where were you last night huh???
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  • 56 frames of hitstun.

A better version of her boyfriend's B assist although with less range, in exchange for more hitstun and blockstun.

Assist C
Rising Eagle
Assist C
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  • Has invincibility after teleporting to target

Super Moves

Rainbow Storm
Rainbow Storm
236L+M
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FLASH KICK!
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  • Costs 1 Ki Gauge.
  • Minimum damage: 120, 555.
  • Can be followed up with j.2S > DR or j.2S > SuperDash if Smash hasn't been used
  • If Smash has been used, Videl can cancel the end of this super on hit into anything.
Defender of Love & Justice, Great Saiyaman!
Defender of Love & Justice, Great Saiyaman!
236H+S
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Counter animation
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You're not touching my girlfriend
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Counter
Attack
  • Costs 1 Ki Gauge.
  • Counter super where Videl poses. She will counter any "physical" attack, whereas supers or ki blasts will stuff it. If succesful, the Great Saiyaman appears for a straight attack downward.
  • Because it is frame 1, it can be used as a counter to safejump setups. However, if you're not careful, you'll simply get baited out instead.
  • Great Saiyaman will completely whiff if the opponent is invincible during their hit, such as during DPs or UI Goku's 236x. Be aware when fighting someone of what exactly you're countering.
  • During the first time the attack is used, the Great Saiyaman shall perform his tradmark heroic pose, which gives him a damage increase on all of his attacks (5S, 2S, etc). This only happens if the full animation played out. - DHCing before the animation plays out will not give him the buff.
  • Can be Z-Changed, as soon as the Great Saiyaman comes down onto the opponent.
  • After activating the power up once, the animation will no longer play, allowing for easier Z-Changes

Not too bad. It being frame 1 for 1 bar means it's a decent option in blockstrings with gaps, but not only do you need to be weary of your opponent catching on and dropping blockstrings to beat it, but some moves can straight up get through the counter anyway. It can also be risky to mash because the opponent can simply through out a ki blast in the middle of the blockstring and beat the move, leaving you with 1 less meter to work with. It's also a very strong option against safejumps, forcing your opponent to get off you and respect you a little. Can be good, but be careful of abusing it.

Justice Rush
Justice Rush
214L+M or 214H+S
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*classical music starts*
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SYNCHRONIZED ATTACK!
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  • Costs 3 Ki Gauges
  • Fully invincible on startup
  • Ends with a hard knockdown
  • Minimum damage: 1604 [1711].
Justice Revenge
Justice Revenge
Hold H+S while knocked down
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They've made literally every possible excuse to make sure every character has a Kamehameha.
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  • Gohan shows up in front of Videl and does a Kamehameha.
  • Causes hard knockdown on hit.

The beam itself is really good since it's a safe on block/Reflect reversal. However, its downfall is that Gohan has his own collision box. If the opponent is slightly late on their IAD safejump, they'll land right in between the couple, free to punish a vulnerable Videl.

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