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| Recipe    = {{clr|H|2H}} (2) CH/{{clr|D|2D}} CH > {{clr|K|214K}} > {{clr|H|5H}} > {{clr|K|214K}} > {{clr|K|5K}} > {{clr|H|6H}} WS > {{clr|S|214S}} WB
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| Recipe    = {{clr|D|2D}} CH > {{clr|K|214K}} > 66{{clr|S|2S}} > {{clr|H|5H}} > {{clr|K|214K}} > {{clr|K|5K}} > {{clr|H|6H}} WS > {{clr|S|214S}} WB
 
| content    = This combo is one of Ky's most high damaging midscreen sequences, but may require conditioning the opponent to mash by resetting pressure with a blocked {{clr|S|c.S}}.
 
| content    = This combo is one of Ky's most high damaging midscreen sequences, but may require conditioning the opponent to mash by resetting pressure with a blocked {{clr|S|c.S}}.
  
 
If you are not close to the corner after the second {{clr|K|214K}}, you can dash up and use {{clr|H|236H}} for oki.
 
If you are not close to the corner after the second {{clr|K|214K}}, you can dash up and use {{clr|H|236H}} for oki.
  
Even if your conditioning fails, you can still rely on {{clr|S|214S}} to end pressure safely after {{clr|H|2H}}.
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Even if your conditioning fails, you can still rely on {{clr|S|214S}} to end pressure safely after {{clr|D|2D}}.
  
This combo also works with {{clr|D|2D}} as the starter.
 
 
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Revision as of 20:31, 5 August 2022

Ky Kiske


Combo Notation GuideCharacter Name Abbreviations
7 7 8 8 9 9
4 4 5 5 6 6
1 1 2 2 3 3
Numbers represent direction on a keyboard numpad. For example, 236+P becomes 236P.
> = Proceed from the previous move to the following move.
/land = Indicate that the player must land at that point in the sequence.
, = Link the previous move into the following move.
->/~ = Cancel the previous special into a follow-up special.
dl./delay = Delay the following move.
whiff/(whiff) = The move must whiff (not hit).
c. = Close
f. = Far
j. = Jump
hj./sj. = High Jump/Super Jump
jc = Jump Cancel
hjc/sjc = High Jump Cancel/Super Jump Cancel
dc/adc = Dash Cancel/Air Dash Cancel
CH = Counter Hit
AA = Anti-Air
[X] = Hold input.
]X[ = Release input.
(move) = Move is optional.
[X] or [Y] = Perform sequence X or Y.
[sequence] xN = Repeat sequence N amount of times.
(N) = Hit N of a move or move must deal N amount of hits.
IAD = Instant Air Dash
BRC = Blue Roman Cancel
RRC = Red Roman Cancel
PRC = Purple Roman Cancel
YRC = Yellow Roman Cancel
YYXRC = Dash Input X Roman Cancel in Y direction i.e: 22PRC
XRC~Q = Cancel the X Roman Cancel into Q i.e: RRC~5K
WS = Wall Stick/Wall Splat
AN = Anji Mito
AX = Axl Low
BA = Baiken
BR = Bridget
CH = Chipp Zanuff
FA = Faust
GI = Giovanna
GO = Goldlewis
HA = Happy Chaos
IN = I-No
JC = Jack-O'
KY = Ky Kiske
LE = Leo Whitefang
MA = May
MI = Millia Rage
NA = Nagoriyuki
PO = Potemkin
RA = Ramlethal
SO = Sol Badguy
TE = Testament
ZA = Zato-1

Beginner Combos

Beginner.png Basic combos are simple combos with the fewest requirements and conditions possible. They:
  • Work against every, or almost every, character in the game
  • Can be performed from most positions in the play area
  • Require few adjustments, and if any are required they are simple
  1. BNB Close Range Ground Combo
  2. Close Range Okizeme Ender
  3. Close Range Light Starter
  4. Mid Range Poke Starter
  5. Anti-Air/Anti-Poke Starter
  6. Charged Dust Starter

BNB Close Range Ground Combo

BnBA staple combo that is relatively simple and effective. Close Range Ground ComboThe one combo you should never forget.
Very Easy
c.S > 2H > 214S

This combo is a staple that all Ky's should know, as it applies Shock State on hit and gives a Hard KnockdownA knockdown that forces the character into a prolonged knockdown state. After a hard knockdown, teching is disabled briefly, allowing the player who is on the offensive more time to set up a meaty, a mix-up, etc., which sets up for Ky's dangerous OkizemeFrom Japanese "起き攻め". Attacking an opponent about to wake up, usually with meaty attacks or mixups. game.

In the midscreen Ky usually just gets a MeatyHitting an opponent to cover the moment as they lose invincibility. The most common one is performing an attack early on okizeme to gain frame advantage and bait reversals. 5K after 214S, but in the corner it becomes much easier for Ky to use 236HGGST Ky Kiske 236H.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
39
Recovery:
Total 62
Advantage:
+22 [+25]
after 214S to gain lots of frame advantage on block.

If you choose to extend in the corner after this combo, you can use 236KGGST Ky Kiske 236K 1.pngGuard:
Low, All
Startup:
5
Recovery:
26
Advantage:
-15 [-10]
as an extension for extra damage. This combo can also be used as a way to catch opponents mashing buttons during your pressure by using a delayed gatling into 2H from c.S. For more information on Ky's OkizemeFrom Japanese "起き攻め". Attacking an opponent about to wake up, usually with meaty attacks or mixups., check his Strategy page here.


Close Range Okizeme Ender

Close Range Okizeme EnderWhen you need a more direct way to start your offense.
Very Easy
Starter > 2D > dl. 236H

A simple yet essential string in any Ky's repertoire, for it grants a Hard KnockdownA knockdown that forces the character into a prolonged knockdown state. After a hard knockdown, teching is disabled briefly, allowing the player who is on the offensive more time to set up a meaty, a mix-up, etc. that starts his okizeme game with 236HGGST Ky Kiske 236H.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
39
Recovery:
Total 62
Advantage:
+22 [+25]
anywhere on the stage.

Ky's starters into 2D include: 5K, 2K, and c.S. 2K is often used in neutral situations due to its balance of range and speed while 5K is more often used during OkizemeFrom Japanese "起き攻め". Attacking an opponent about to wake up, usually with meaty attacks or mixups. with its infamously long active frames and quick recovery.

This combo also works as a jump in starter from j.H for easy air to ground conversions.

On block, 5K with a slight (2f minimum) delay into 2D is a 1f (minimum) Frame TrapAn offensive technique where the attacker leaves a small opening in their offense, goading the defender into performing an attack. This opening is designed such that the attacker can easily counter the defender's attack with his own., which when cancelled into 214S is a natural 1f double frame trap and safe situation if the opponent is not hit by 2D.

2K > 2D into a blocked 214S can be used after a blocked Shock State 214KGGST Ky Kiske 214K.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
24
Recovery:
6
Advantage:
-2~+6 [+4~+12]
for a Frame TrapAn offensive technique where the attacker leaves a small opening in their offense, goading the defender into performing an attack. This opening is designed such that the attacker can easily counter the defender's attack with his own., but it also combos if the opponent is hit by the SS 214K.


Close Range Light Starter

Close Range Light StarterSometimes it's all you get.
Very Easy
(5P or 2P) xN > 6P > 214S

A versatile string for Ky to confirm a knockdown from 2P, either during low-risk pressure or to regain control of the situation from 2P AbareAn attack during the opponent's pressure, intended to interrupt it.. Even if this starter does not give the option of 236HGGST Ky Kiske 236H.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
39
Recovery:
Total 62
Advantage:
+22 [+25]
OkizemeFrom Japanese "起き攻め". Attacking an opponent about to wake up, usually with meaty attacks or mixups., it is still necessary due to not having access to 2D from P normals. This gives similar oki to the BNB Close Range Ground Combo posted above. This combo also works as a good block string confirm from close range, due to the 214S ender being safe on block from all ranges.

Subtract the amount of Ps based on range from the opponent, as too many will cause 6P to whiff. Generally, if Ky is almost touching their collision box you are able to get two hits before needing to gatling into 6P.


Mid Range Poke Starter

Mid Range Poke StarterThe best way to convert from controlling space to starting offense.
Easy
Midrange Starter > 5H > (dl.) 236K

In most cases Ky is not able to convert into 214S from far-reaching pokes, so this combo is his next best option to still score a knockdown. However, Stun DipperGGST Ky Kiske 236K 1.pngGuard:
Low, All
Startup:
5
Recovery:
26
Advantage:
-15 [-10]
only provides a Soft KnockdownA knockdown that puts the character into a state that may allow the character to get up off the ground earlier than usual. In Guilty Gear, a Soft Knockdown puts the character into a rolling stance and has them recover quicker than a Hard Knockdown, which gives the offender less options to continue their offense., so Ky does not have time for 236HGGST Ky Kiske 236H.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
39
Recovery:
Total 62
Advantage:
+22 [+25]
and only gets a meaty 5K afterwards.

Notable midrange starters include: 2S and f.S. f.S goes farther but could get changed to a c.S input if done too close, while 2S goes a little shorter but always will be the same move, regardless of proximity.

A max range f.S will only be able to convert into 236K. If the combo is started right next to the opponent, you will have to delay the 236K after the 5H in order for the 236K to connect both hits. This combo's beginning also can be used as a way to catch opponents jumping out of blockstun with a delayed gatling to 2S from c.S on block.

On Counter Hit, f.S and 2S will directly combo into 236K from any range due to the CH slowdown.


Anti-Air/Anti-Poke Starter

Anti-Air/Anti-Poke StarterStopping approaches from any angle.
Very Easy
6P > 214S/214K

Thanks to its frame 1 upper body invulnerability, 6P is useful as a counter poke. It can challenge an opponent's attack in mid or close range. Many forward-lunging, plus on block special moves, such as Giovanna's TrovãoGGST Giovanna Trovao.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
27
Recovery:
15
Advantage:
+4
and May's HMr. Dolphin HorizontalGGST May Mr. Dolphin Horizontal.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
25
Recovery:
11 (20 OH)
Advantage:
+5
, are vulnerable to 6P. In addition, many S attacks extends the character's hurtbox further out than the animation implies, due to the weapon itself having a hurtbox. This is especially prevalent on moves like Nagoriyuki's f.SGGST Nagoriyuki fS1.pngGuard:
Mid
Startup:
16
Recovery:
28
Advantage:
-17
and Leo's f.SGGST Leo Whitefang f.S.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
12
Recovery:
21
Advantage:
-13
. If you experiment with 6P, you might be surprised at how many attacks can be beaten with it.

The upper body invincibility also naturally makes 6P a reliable anti-air, stopping opponents both jumping and Instant Airdashing in while turning their approach into a Dire EclatGGST Ky Kiske 214S.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
14
Recovery:
25
Advantage:
-8 [-6]
okizeme situation for Ky.

On Counter Hit, 214KGGST Ky Kiske 214K.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
24
Recovery:
6
Advantage:
-2~+6 [+4~+12]
also gives a hard knockdown but one that is closer to Ky than 214SGGST Ky Kiske 214S.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
14
Recovery:
25
Advantage:
-8 [-6]
's, allowing for more OkizemeFrom Japanese "起き攻め". Attacking an opponent about to wake up, usually with meaty attacks or mixups. options like dash 236HGGST Ky Kiske 236H.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
39
Recovery:
Total 62
Advantage:
+22 [+25]
.


Charged Dust Starter

Charged Dust StarterFor big punishes, or just catching people sleeping.
Easy
5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.D > 9jc > j.H > j.S > j.H > 9jc > j.HH

A big damage Homing Jump combo from a Charged Dust starter. Charged Dust is slow at 28f startup and reactable as a mix-up, but neither of those factor into its usage as a reliable ReversalTo perform an attack as soon as possible after getting knocked down or leaving hitstun/blockstun. punish. Since the wall isn't broken during this combo Ky does not gain Positive Bonus afterwards, but the Finish Blow smash knockdown ender gives him enough time to run forward for a meaty. You will need a different version of this combo for it to work on May

Core Combos

Intermediate.png Core combos balance potency with consistency. They:
  • Work against most characters of a selected weight or hurt box type
  • May require moderate adjustments to account for variables such as screen position, hit count, resources, and opposing character
  • Are expected to be consistently performable by most intermediate and advanced players who main the character

Optimized Close Range Midscreen BNB

Optimized Close Range Midscreen BNBWallbreak from much farther than normal without any meter!
Medium
c.S > jc > j.D > adc > j.H > 2K > 6H > 2K > 6H > dl.623H WS > 214S WB

This combo may seem complex, but when boiled down has only a few parts that are needed to be mastered in order to perform it.

This combo is Ky's easiest midscreen wallbreak without meter, but also the most specific, as the opponent has to be directly where the video shows for it to work. If you are too close to the corner, the first 2K > 6H loop will wallbounce the opponent too quickly and not give enough time for the second loop. In the midscreen the 2K > 6H will just blow the opponent back, not leading to anything afterwards. On block this combo does not provide as much value as a block string as the first beginner combo due to the opponent needing to be standing for this combo to connect on block and on hit. This combo is recommended as a blue burst punish after a jump cancelled c.S.

You can also do only one loop of 2K > 6H with a special cancelled 236H afterwards for okizeme.

The first 2K can be replaced with a c.S on medium and lightweight characters for extra damage.

When not in the midscreen, there is a variation of this combo that goes for okizeme instead of damage listed in the tab above.


Optimized Close Range Corner BNB

Optimized Close Range Corner BNBUtilize the shock states opponent launching properties!
Easy
c.S > 6H > 214S > 6H > 623H > 2K WS > 214S WB

This combo is one of Ky's most damaging, while also being quite short and simple. On heavyweight characters such as Potemkin, you will have to substitute the 2K for a 2P.

When not touching the opponents collision box, while still being in c.S range, the 214S after the 6H will have to be delayed in order for the combo to connect. You will also have to substitute 2K for a 2P in this situation.

On the second 6H in the combo, instead of continuing, you can special cancel into 236H for an okizeme reset.

Optimized Close Range Metered Midscreen Starter

Optimized Close Range Metered Midscreen StarterUtilize the shock states opponent launching properties, this time with meter!
Easy
c.S > 2H > 214S > 88RRC > 66 > 2H > 623H > c.S > 6H WS > 214S WB

This combo provides a slightly less safe way to catch the opponents jump after a blocked c.S on offense compared to 2S > 5H but paired with the power of the roman cancel gives it a great reward on hit.

If the opponent stays patient you are still rewarded with a safe blockstring ender in 214S. This means trying to fish for this combo leads of little risk to you.

As long as the first half of the combo includes a 214S in it, it is very likely you can do the RC part of this combo with no issues on multiple different starters.

Doing a delayed 236H after the second c.S provides an okizeme reset.

Optimized Heavy Normal Counterhit Corner Starter

Optimized Heavy Normal Counterhit Corner StarterUtilize stagger pressure to catch the opponents mashing attempts!
Easy
6H CH > 236H > 6H > 623H > c.S > 6H WS > 214S WB

This combo is one of Ky's most high damaging corner sequences, but may require conditioning the opponent to mash by resetting pressure with a blocked c.S.

On heavyweights such as Potemkin you must swap out the c.S for a 2K for the combo to connect.

Even if your conditioning fails, you can still rely on 214S to end pressure safely after 6H.

Optimized Heavy Normal Counterhit Midscreen Starter

Optimized Heavy Normal Counterhit Midscreen StarterUtilize stagger pressure to catch the opponents mashing attempts, but in the midscreen!
Easy
2D CH > 214K > 662S > 5H > 214K > 5K > 6H WS > 214S WB

This combo is one of Ky's most high damaging midscreen sequences, but may require conditioning the opponent to mash by resetting pressure with a blocked c.S.

If you are not close to the corner after the second 214K, you can dash up and use 236H for oki.

Even if your conditioning fails, you can still rely on 214S to end pressure safely after 2D.


Combo List

  • This list is meant for actual combos, not for frame traps, blockstrings, or mixups. If the combo itself allows to set them up afterwards, it is mentioned in the "Notes" field).
  • The list is focused on most practical examples, not every single option that exists.
  • All damage values are damage dealt to Ky unless the combo cannot work on him, in which case the character with the closest defense modifier is used.
  • The difficulty is ranked on a scale of 1 to 5 (Very Easy, Easy, Medium, Hard and Very Hard) based on various factors (cancel leniency, link timings, special techniques, range consistency, etc).
5P/2P/5K/2K Starters
Combo Position Damage Tension Gain Works on: Difficulty Notes Video
2P > (2P > 2P) > 6P > 214S Anywhere 69 16% Everyone Very Easy Simple, easy confirm from 2P that grants Shock State. Subtract Ps based on range. Works off of 5P too, but 5P whiffs on most crouchers. YT
5K/2K > 2D > 214S Anywhere 66~70 16% Everyone Very Easy Confirm into Dire Eclat. Grants Shock State and a knockdown. YT
5K/2K > 2D Anywhere 48 10% Everyone Very Easy Confirm off of 5K or 2K into 2D into meaty Charged Stun Edge for both okizeme and Shock State. The CSE will pass over them by the time they get up unless you delay it or if the opponent was hit by 2D at a far enough range. YT
5K/2K > 6H > 214S, 662K/5K > 6H > 623H, 5P/c.S WS 623H/214S Corner 174 30% Everyone Hard High damage corner combo for when the opponent is hit crouching. Replace 5P with c.S on light and medium weights for more damage. Wall break with 214S to trade damage for Shock State.
5K/2K > 2D > 214S > RRC, 665H > 623H, c.S > 6H WS > 623H Back to Corner 168 ~-20% Light and Medium weights Medium Side switches and wall breaks. Run under the opponent after the RRC. The RRC can be done as either neutral RRC or 88RRC, but 66RRC will not let you run under the opponent. YT
5K/2K > 2D > 214S > RRC, 665H > 623H, 2K > 6P WS 623H Back to Corner 154 ~-20% Everyone Hard Alternate version of the above for heavyweights. Getting the timing for 2K after the Vapor Thrust can be tricky.
c.S/f.S/2S Starters
Combo Position Damage Tension Gain Works on: Difficulty Notes Video
c.S > 214S Anywhere 77 +12% Everyone Very Easy Applies Shock State. Sets up safejumps with IAD j.H or 66214K. YT
c.S > 5H > 236K Anywhere 112 +17% Everyone Easy Spacing dependent. Delay the cancel from 5H to 236K if close to the opponent. 5H can also be replaced with f.S and 2S. YT
c.S > 5H > 236S > 66PRC, 66c.S > 2H(2) > 214S Anywhere 167 ~-23% Everyone Medium Leaves your opponent in Shock State. Can opt to use 2D for CSE Oki instead of ending with 2H(2) > 214S. YT
c.S > jc > j.D > 66 > j.K > 2K > 6H > 214K > 5K WS > 214S Round Start 196 ~27% Everyone Medium Universal j.D Launch route from c.S at round start distance that leads into a meterless wall break. Whiffs on most crouching opponents.
c.S > jc > j.D > 66 > j.H > c.S > 5H > 214K > 5K > 6H WS > 214S Round Start 220 ~32% Light/Medium Medium Universal route for all medium and lightweights. Does not work on heavyweights. Combo also works on counter hit if the jump cancel is a 7jc instead of 8 or 9.
c.S > jc > j.D > 66 > j.H > c.S > 6K > 236K > 66RRC > Run > c.S > 5H > 214K > c.S WS > 623H Cornered 223 ~-26% Light/Medium Medium j.D Launch route from c.S leading to a wallbreak from corner to corner using meter. 6K 236K is used since it's autotimed and allows you to run them to the corner with the RRC pop-up without running under them. YT
c.S > jc > j.D > 66 > j.K > 2K > 6H > 236K > 66RRC > Run > c.S > 5H > 214K > 5K > 6H WS > 623H Cornered 200 (PO) ~-27% Heavy Medium Adjusted j.D Launch route from c.S on heavyweights leading to a wallbreak from corner to corner using meter. No manual timing required either except to not run for too long. YT
c.S > 6H > 214K > 66c.S > 6H > 214S WS 623H Corner 219 +35% Everyone Medium High damage meterless corner combo from c.S. The 214S can be replaced with another 623H for 4 more damage, but this can whiff on certain large characters like Potemkin unless the second c.S is not dashed. YT
c.S > 6H > 214S, 662K > 6H > 623H, 5P/c.S WS 623H/214S Corner 238 +34% Everyone Hard High damage meterless corner combo from c.S. Replace 5P with c.S on Medium/Light characters for more damage. Wall break with 214S to trade damage for Shock State.
CH c.S > 5[D], 2S > 5H > 214K, 6H214S WS 623H Near Corner 234 +40% Everyone Hard Counter Hit c.S punish meterless combo that uses [5D] as launcher on CH confirm. YT
c.S > 2H > 214S > 632146H Near Corner 223 ~-35% Everyone Medium Less burst points, high damage RTL combo. Also works from raw 2H.
CH c.S > [5D], 2S > 5H > 214K Anywhere 166 ~25% Everyone Medium You can actually confirm the 5[D] very late. Can OTG after Foudre Arc with Foudre Arc if you really want, or do a dashing 236H for oki. YT
c.S > 5H > 214S > 66RRC > c.S > 5H > 623H , c.S > 214S > WS 623H Midscreen 224 ~-25% Medium and lightweights Medium Good damage, carries to corner for wallbreak from midscreen. YT
c.S > 5H > 214S > 66RRC > dash > c.S > 6H > 623H , 5K > WS 623H Midscreen 210 (on Pot) ~-25% Everyone Medium Alternative version of above that works with heavy characters. Dash is needed or else 623H will whiff. YT
5H/2H/6H Combos
Combo Position Damage Tension Gain Works on: Difficulty Notes Video
AA 2H(1~2) > 623H Anywhere 92~106 ~8% Everyone Very Easy Basic anti-air confirm. Should work at any height on both normal and counter hit, and also works on grounded hit provided Ky is close enough. YT
AA 2H(1) > 214K > 5H > 214K Midscreen 128 ~19% Everyone Easy Anti-air confirm on falling opponent. Sends the opponent to the corner. At max height 2H hit, the 214K will send the opponent flying in the opposite direction and drop the combo. YT
AA 2H(1) > 214K > 5H > 214K > c.S > 214S WS 623H Near Corner 197 +~30% Everyone Easy Similar to above combo adjusted for being close enough to wall stick with 214S and then break with 623H YT
CH 2H(2) > 236H > 6H > 623H > c.S > 5H WS 623H Corner 265 +36% Light/Medium Medium Grounded corner 2H Counter Hit punish. Useful after baiting a throw break attempt with backdash. Needs adjustment to work against heavyweight. YT
CH AA 2H(1) > 236H > 6H > 623H > c.S > 5H > 214K WS 623H Corner 258 +38% Light/Medium Medium Anti Air 2H Counter Hit meterless punish in corner. YT
CH AA 2H(1) > 236H > 5H > 214K > 66c.S > 5H > 214S WS 623H Corner 241 +41% Faust & Heavyweight Medium Above combo adjusted for heavies and faust.
2H(2) > 214S > 5K > 6H > 623H > c.S WS 623H Corner 242 +30% Medium Hard 6H cancel into 623H is pretty tight. c.S can fail to wall stick if hit too late, so c.S can be replaced by 623S for a slightly more consistent combo that deals 1 less damage. YT
CH 6H > dl.214K > 662S > 5H > 214K Anywhere 153 ~30% Everyone Medium BnB meterless 6H counterhit confirm. YT
CH 6H > 236H > 66 2H > 623H > c.S > 6H WS > 623H Corner 270 ~38% Everyone Medium New 6H counterhit confirm from the latest patch. Replace c.S > 6H with 2H > 214S on lightweights and omit the dash before 2H for heavyweights. YT
CH 6H > 2H > delay 214S > 6H > 623H > c.S > 623H Near corner 259 ~+35% Everyone Hard Works a bit away from the corner, but requires a dash before the 2H to get to the corner. On Leo, use 2K instead of c.S to wallstick. YT
Jump-in Starters
Combo Position Damage Tension Gain Works on: Difficulty Notes Video
j.H > c.S > 5H > 236K Anywhere 121 27% Everyone Easy j.H confirm. Needs a deep j.H or the c.S will not combo. YT
j.H > c.S > 5H > 236K > 66RRC > 2H > 214K WS 623H Midscreen/Near Corner/Corner 191 -47% Everyone Easy RC extension for the above combo that will wall stick via 214K from midscreen or closer. YT
j.H > c.S > 6H > 214K > 2H(2) > 214S > 623H Near Corner 197 ~+34% Everyone Easy Simple meterless wallbreak combo from j.H when near corner.
j.H > c.S > 5H > 236K(2) > 66RRC > c.S > 6H > 623H > WS 623H Midscreen 200 ~-30% Everyone Medium Deep j.H needed for c.S to work. Works in corner/near corner.
Dust Combos
Combo Position Damage Tension Gain Works on: Difficulty Notes Video
5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.SS Anywhere 158 +26% Everyone Very Easy Simple beginner charged Dust combo. YT
5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.S > 9jc > j.H > j.SS Anywhere 189 +29% Everyone Easy Slightly more advanced version of the above. YT
5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.S > 9jc > j.H > j.S > j.H > 9jc > j.SS Anywhere 211 +31% Everyone Medium BnB Dust combo YT
5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.S > 9jc > j.H > j.S > j.H > 9jc > j.K > j.SS When Cornered 216 32% Everyone Medium The extra Homing Jump air time from landing 5[D] when cornered allows you to tack on a j.K after the second jump cancel for a bit of extra damage. Even with this added time, you have to be quick and input your attacks as soon as possible. You'll have just barely enough time to get the whole thing. If you aren't cornered, use the above combo instead. YT
5[D] > [7/8/9] > (Block burst) > 9 > j.H > j.S > j.H 9jc > j.HH Anywhere 154 18% Everyone Medium Route for blocked burst after Dust launch. The jump after blocked burst needs to be delayed slightly or you will fall out, ending the Homing Jump. YT
CH 2D > 214K > 662S > 5H > 214K Anywhere 123 18% Everyone [3] Medium CH 2D confirm into hard knockdown. YT
Ground Throw Starter
Combo Position Damage Tension Gain Works on: Difficulty Notes Video
Throw 66RRC > c.S > 2H(2) > 214K > 5H > 214K > 623H Midscreen/Near corner 157 ~-36% Everyone Easy Easy midscreen throw RC combo that leads into wall break from round start distance. Might drop or wall stick earlier if done too close to the corner. For lightweights, the combo needs a slight adjustment of dashing forward after the RRC to bring the opponent closer to the wall. YT
Throw 66RRC > 5[D] > 2S > 5H > 214K > 5K > 623H Midscreen/Near corner 156 ~-34% Everyone Hard Midscreen throw RC combo. Timing on 2S can be tricky as it cannot be buffered from 5[D]. If the opponent is not cornered, 5K will whiff or fail to wall stick, but the soft knockdown can still allow for an oki setup. 214S can be used as the ender for shock state instead of 623H for damage. More difficult than the above combo and might whiff at round start distance, but does more damage and gains more tension. YT
Throw 44RRC > 236H > dash > 2S > 5H > 214K > 623H Corner 159 ~ -40% Everyone Hard Hard to burst combo, can dash up and block after fireball to bait the burst again. YT
Throw 44RRC > 236H > (66) 6H > 623H > 5K > 623H Corner 165 ~-35% Everyone Hard Burst-safe corner throw RC route. Dashing 6H is only necessary if the opponent actually bursts. Against lightweights, can wallsplat with c.S instead of 5K for more damage. Against heavyweights, wall stick with 2K for more consistency. If the opponent does burst after the 44RC, the combo can still continue if the CSE was timed perfectly after 44RRC, otherwise Ky simply applies shockstate on block and continues pressure. YT
Special Move Starter
Combo Position Damage Tension Gain Works on: Difficulty Notes Video
CH 214K > 2K > 214S Anywhere 83 ~18% Everyone Very Easy Ground counterhit Foudre Arc combo. YT
AA 214K > 2S > 5H > 214K Anywhere 106 ~18% Everyone Easy Air hit Foudre Arc combo. Works on counterhit as well YT
CH 214S > microdash > 2/5K > 6H > 623H > c.S > 6H > WS > 623H Corner 238 36% Everyone Medium corner CH Dire Eclat meterless wallbreak combo. Easier to connect the microdash kick the closer the Eclat hits from. YT
CH 214S > 6H > 623H > c.S > 6H > 623H WS > 623H Corner 258 37% Everyone Medium Close range corner dire eclat CH combo. Drops if Eclat is hit from too far away. YT
CH 214S > dash > 5H > 214K > 5H > 214K Anywhere 159 ~32% Everyone Very Hard Very difficult microdash confirm off a counterhit Dire Eclat. Much easier to do when the opponent has the corner behind them of course. YT
CH Shock State 623H > dash > c.S > 2H > 214K Anywhere 150 ~20% Everyone Hard Pretty hard timing to dash after the H DP, have to also time the c.S while Ky is offscreen so it's pretty hard. YT
236K(1) > RRC > [5D] > microdash > c.S > 6K > 5K > 6H > 623H > 623H Corner 183 -48% Everyone Medium 50 tension wallbreak combo off of stun dipper in the corner.

Combo Theory

Get the Knockdown/Push to the Corner

The goal with combos is to end them in a way that gets you some kind of advantage beyond just damage. You can end combos into a knockdown, or corner carry to put yourself in a better position. Each ender you choose will set up a different situation after the combo, so think about what you want to accomplish.

Example enders:

  • ... > 2D
    • Hard knockdown close to Ky, allowing many okizeme setups.
  • ... > 2D > 214S
    • Corner carry with a knockdown farther from Ky that still allows for good oki.
  • f.S/2S > 236K
    • Corner carry and damage option, but with weaker oki due to Stun Dipper's short knockdown time.
  • ...(airborne opponent) > 5H/2H > 214K
    • Large amount of corner carry.
  • ... > 632146H / 236236P
    • Overdrive ender for high damage, and in Ride The Lightning's case a huge amount of corner carry, wallbreaking from a slightly further distance than round start position.

5H > Foudre Arc Loops

5H launches opponents vertically on air hit, putting them in the perfect position for Foudre Arc (214K) afterwards. This sequence can be looped off a wide variety of starters for a large amount of corner carry as long as 5H hits the opponent in the air, including (but not limited to) Red Roman Cancel's launch, anti-air 5P/2H, and CH 6H. When the corner carry is enough to reach the corner itself, 5K 6H after the second 214K is very likely to wall stick, earning you Positive Bonus from the resulting Wall Break.

6H Wallbounce

In the corner, 6H will bounce the opponent off the wall on hit. This allows combo extensions with 214K (if far enough, that is. 6H > 214K will whiff if Ky is too close to the corner) and Shock State 623S/H for increased damage.

214S OTG Relaunch

In the corner, combos that don't push you out too far can be ended in 214S and picked up with an Off-the-Ground hit to continue the combo, taking advantage of the applied Shock State to increase your damage.

Essentially, there's a short time after an opponent is hit by 214S that they can be launched into the air again if struck by an attack. The most reliable move you have to do this with is 2K, since it's very fast, reaches a long distance, and gatlings to 6H to allow you to wallbounce the opponent.

If you think the opponent may be too far to hit an OTG relaunch, you can also PRC the recovery of the 214S to make the confirm much easier.

Example routes:

  • c.S > 6H > 214S, 662K > 6H > SS 623H, 5P > 623H
  • CH 214S, 66H > 623H > c.S > 6H > 623H > 623S

j.D Launch

Ky can launch grounded opponents with j.D, allowing him to follow up with an immediate airdash into another aerial button, such as j.P to float the opponent higher, j.S for damage, or j.K for consistency. After the followup air button, Ky can further juggle the opponent by using c.S if close enough, or 2K > 6H when near the corner to extend the combo.

j.D can also be hit confirmed off of a normal or counter hit c.S, and j.D launch routes boast the greatest meterless wall carry out of all grounded Ky combos.

5[D] Pickup

After any Red Roman Cancel (easiest with 66RRC) and also certain counterhits (such as c.S), Ky can use a fully charged Dust to pop the opponent up in the air, allowing certain combo pickups. The most common route after 5[D] popup is 2S > 5H > 214K > ...

This works anywhere on the screen (except the corner when used off ch c.S instead of RRC) and is consistent against all characters. It will also work if the opponent is launched high airborne in any other combo route.

2H > Foudre Arc

2H (2) universally combos into 214K against all grounded opponents.

If 214K hit your opponent while they were in Shock State, you can usually link 5K or 2K and cancel into Stun Dipper (236K) to end the combo, depending on the character and spacing. A 5K link will not work on some characters at all. 2K is more reliable since it reaches further. The 2K link works on everyone except for I-No. She requires you to be point blank with your 2H, otherwise 2K won't reach. On the larger characters like Faust, Potemkin, Leo, and Nagoriyuki, you can instead end the combo with Dire Eclat (214S) instead of 236K, since their hurtboxes are bigger than the other characters on whom max range 2K > 214S will not work on. This will reapply Shock State, making it preferable over Stun Dipper for these characters. If near the corner, Ky can opt for 2K > 6H -> special cancel to secure a wallbreak.

Dragon Install Combo Guide

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In Dragon Install, Ky's combos are greatly improved in damage and Okizeme, but they execute somewhat differently. Know well about how the DI specials change to create your own efficient DI combos.

  • The specials are ranked in efficiency for their usage within DI combos, as opposed to neutral or other usage.

H Vapor Thrust (623H)

  • Pre DI: Reversal starter, Shock State combo filler, wall breaker.
  • DI: Better reversal starter (+), all purpose Combo filler (+++), not a good wall breaker (very mild -), air-to-ground combo converter (+).

In DI, H Vapor Thrust is significantly buffed that it pops the opponent very high on hit, even on normal ground hit. Links to a c.S on hit even in midscreen. However, the time to confirm a midscreen hit as a launcher is quite tight, allowing merely 1~2 hits before 623H only, and the route is only reliable when in very limited range (e.g. 5K/2K/c.S > 2D > 623H). Be sure that the opponent is opened up or you will end up with a blocked DP and the round ends. When the opponent is cornered, the confirm window becomes wider with c.S > 6H > 623H.

Notably DI, 623H launches lower and pushes back further as combo time lengthens. To counter this effect, Ky needs to launch the opponent early in the combo, with normals or DI 623H to build up the height, then the rest of the combo can go on with decreased push back and enough height in the air.

Other than combo filler, DI 623H has a less seen use: you can actually use j.623H to confirm air hits into ground combos. This must be done high to gain enough frames to attack before the opponent hits the ground.

623H is "the wall breaker" before DI, but in DI it becomes a 3-hit move, resulting lower wall break damage. Use 5[D] when close and with enough time, or 6H as a quicker and longer substitution.

Stun Dipper (236K)

  • Pre DI: Mid-range soft knock down securer.
  • DI: High damage hard knock down securer, great ender of midscreen combos (++).

Stun Dipper is another greatly buffed move in DI. It now HKDs opponents allowing Charged Stun Edge Okizeme, making this move far beyond a mid-range soft knock down securer. Easiest way to utilize DI Stun Dipper is to simply cancel from 2D to add free damage without losing any bit of Okizeme. For short combos in midscreen, Stun Dipper works well against airborne opponents, but usually you need to delay the input for a full hit. Moreover, DI Stun Dipper gets 80% extra damage, making it an optimized ender in case of both damage and Okizeme midscreen.

e.g. 5K > 2D > 236236P, 5H > dl 236K(, 236H) Damage: 171
     5K > 2D > 236236P, 5H > 214K(, dash button236H) Damage: 160

Foudre Arc (214K)

  • Pre DI: Mid-range hard knock down securer, corner combo filler.
  • DI: Basically works the same, but the damage is poor when compared to other DI moves (-). More inconsistent issues with 3 hits (-).

DI Foudre Arc works pretty much the same in DI, but the damage is much lower than DI 623H. This means the more Foudre Arcs you use in a combo, the poorer damage it will deal. As a mid screen HKD ender, it deals less damage than Stun Dipper with no other advantage. However, Foudre Arc still holds the place of the corner pusher when the opponent is out of DI 623H's range.

Another issue of DI Foudre Arc is the increased hits. DI Foudre Arc tends to whiff some hits when used late in combo, due to the opponent is pushed out of its range in previous hits, which can lead to combo drops or failed wall sticks. When used too close to Wall Stick, this move can itself Wall Stick and then Wall Break, resulting a very poor ender: it is not damaging at all and impossible to convert into a super Wall Break.

Dire Eclat (214S)

  • Pre DI: Mid screen close range hard knock down ender, frametrap meterless CH combo starter, high damage Shock State applier in corner combos.
  • DI: Still a nice close range hard knock down ender (~), more damaging frametrap meterless CH combo starter with larger push back (~), no more Shock State during DI, and it is a overall bad move mid combo (--).

Dire Eclat is always "the move" to cancel into after 2P/5P*n > 6P, in DI or not. It still holds the ability to start meterless frametrap CH punish combos, with improved damage during DI.

e.g. Corner CH 214S, 5H > 214K, 665K > 6H > 236K WS 5[D] Damage: 234.

When used mid-combo, the increased hits makes the push back so hard that OTG pick up is extremely hard. If you are in range of DI Dire Eclat, you can almost always do 623H instead to reach much higher damage with even easier execution. This move also has the same multi-hit based problem just like DI Foudre Arc, making it a poor Wall Sticker.

Stun Edge (236S)

  • Pre DI: Rarely used in combo without RC.
  • DI: Optimized Wall Sticker, but with some very tight calculation and execution (+).

DI Stun Edge gets 100% damage boost, hits quite hard at 60 damage, and it only deals two hits, which makes it perfect to wall stick even from a distance (actually it does the job better when used from a distance). However, when used point blank in the corner it can Wall Break from itself if a miscalculation happens, or even executing the combo slightly slower can lead to a early Wall Break. On a successful Wall Stick, use 5[D] when close, or 6H as a quicker and longer substitution. Other than that, it remains the same with high damage boost, and works well with Purple Roman Cancel.

e.g. Midscreen c.S > 623H, c.S > 5H > 623H, c.S > 236S WS, 5[D] Damage: 273 
     ... > 214S WS WB Damage: 260  
     ... > 6H WS, 5[D] Damage: 272 (so use 6H WS instead if not so confident.)

S Vapor Thrust (623S)

  • Pre DI: Shock State anti-air reversal starter.
  • DI: Anti-air reversal starter (mild +).

DI S Vapor Thrust is not as damaging as 623H, but you occasionally need to use it for its speed and to cover cross-ups with its more vertical travel direction. It pops up significantly lower than the H version so it needs some height already built against an airborne opponent. You will have to decide which move you should use to catch the opponent falling, depending on their height, distance, and how the hit connects. It is usually not a good idea to use this move mid-combo, since this move deals significantly lower damage than other DI specials (60), and it lacks the forward hitbox or momentum to reliably land both hits.

Charged Stun Edge (236H)

  • Pre DI: Okizeme meaty starter, Burst free combo filler, usually works with a RC.
  • DI: Pretty much the same, but with longer hit animation for heavier button to follow up (+).

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