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|+{{clr|1|5P}}/{{clr|1|2P}}/{{clr|2|5K}}/{{clr|2|2K}} Starters | |+{{clr|1|5P}}/{{clr|1|2P}}/{{clr|2|5K}}/{{clr|2|2K}} Starters | ||
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! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes | ! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes !! Video | ||
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| | {{clr|1|2P}} > ({{clr|1|2P}} > {{clr|1|2P}}) > {{clr|1|6P}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 69 || 16% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Simple, easy confirm from {{clr|1|2P}} that grants Shock State. Subtract Ps based on range. Works off of {{clr|1|5P}} too, but {{clr|1|5P}} whiffs on most crouchers. | | | {{clr|1|2P}} > ({{clr|1|2P}} > {{clr|1|2P}}) > {{clr|1|6P}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 69 || 16% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Simple, easy confirm from {{clr|1|2P}} that grants Shock State. Subtract Ps based on range. Works off of {{clr|1|5P}} too, but {{clr|1|5P}} whiffs on most crouchers. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6cj8XlFyGY YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 66~70 || 16% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Confirm into Dire Eclat. Grants Shock State and a knockdown. | | | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 66~70 || 16% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Confirm into Dire Eclat. Grants Shock State and a knockdown. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny1kVqR0wVY YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} || Anywhere || 48 || 10% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Confirm off of {{clr|2|5K}} or {{clr|2|2K}} into {{clr|5|2D}} into meaty Charged Stun Edge for both okizeme and Shock State. The CSE will pass over them by the time they get up unless you delay it or if the opponent was hit by {{clr|5|2D}} at a far enough range. | | | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} || Anywhere || 48 || 10% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Confirm off of {{clr|2|5K}} or {{clr|2|2K}} into {{clr|5|2D}} into meaty Charged Stun Edge for both okizeme and Shock State. The CSE will pass over them by the time they get up unless you delay it or if the opponent was hit by {{clr|5|2D}} at a far enough range. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VspzU10HPbI YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|3|214S}}, 66{{clr|2|2K}}/{{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}, {{clr|1|5P}}/{{clr|3|c.S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}}/{{clr|3|214S}} || Corner || 174 || 30% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || High damage corner combo for when the opponent is hit crouching. Replace {{clr|1|5P}} with {{clr|3|c.S}} on light and medium weights for more damage. Wall break with {{clr|3|214S}} to trade damage for Shock State. | | | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|3|214S}}, 66{{clr|2|2K}}/{{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}, {{clr|1|5P}}/{{clr|3|c.S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}}/{{clr|3|214S}} || Corner || 174 || 30% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || High damage corner combo for when the opponent is hit crouching. Replace {{clr|1|5P}} with {{clr|3|c.S}} on light and medium weights for more damage. Wall break with {{clr|3|214S}} to trade damage for Shock State. || | ||
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| | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > RRC, 66{{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}, {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4| | | | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > RRC, 66{{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}, {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} WS > {{clr|4|623H}} || Back to Corner || 168 || ~-20% || Light and Medium weights || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Side switches and wall breaks. Run under the opponent after the RRC. The RRC can be done as either neutral RRC or 88RRC, but 66RRC will not let you run under the opponent. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNDNPuq0QR8 YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > RRC, 66{{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}, {{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|1|6P}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Back to Corner || 154 || ~-20% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Alternate version of the above for heavyweights. Getting the timing for {{clr|2|2K}} after the Vapor Thrust can be tricky. | | | {{clr|2|5K/2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > RRC, 66{{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}, {{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|1|6P}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Back to Corner || 154 || ~-20% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Alternate version of the above for heavyweights. Getting the timing for {{clr|2|2K}} after the Vapor Thrust can be tricky. || | ||
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|+{{clr|3|c.S}}/{{clr|3|f.S}}/{{clr|3|2S}} Starters | |+{{clr|3|c.S}}/{{clr|3|f.S}}/{{clr|3|2S}} Starters | ||
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! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes | ! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes !! Video | ||
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| | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 77 || +12% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Applies Shock State. Sets up safejumps with IAD {{clr|4|j.H}} or 66{{clr|2|214K}}. | | | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 77 || +12% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Applies Shock State. Sets up safejumps with IAD {{clr|4|j.H}} or 66{{clr|2|214K}}. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KwuJ6-wnlM YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|236K}} || Anywhere || 112 || +17% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Spacing dependent. Delay the cancel from {{clr|4|5H}} to {{clr|2|236K}} if close to the opponent. {{clr|4|5H}} can also be replaced with {{clr|3|f.S}} and {{clr|3|2S}}. | | | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|236K}} || Anywhere || 112 || +17% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Spacing dependent. Delay the cancel from {{clr|4|5H}} to {{clr|2|236K}} if close to the opponent. {{clr|4|5H}} can also be replaced with {{clr|3|f.S}} and {{clr|3|2S}}. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvUUnj3zgg4 YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|3|236S}} > 66PRC, 66{{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 167 || ~-23% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Leaves your opponent in Shock State. Can opt to use {{clr|5|2D}} for CSE Oki instead of ending with {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|3|214S}}. | | | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|3|236S}} > 66PRC, 66{{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 167 || ~-23% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Leaves your opponent in Shock State. Can opt to use {{clr|5|2D}} for CSE Oki instead of ending with {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|3|214S}}. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfUXbEW9ng0 YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > 66{{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 219 || +35% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || High damage meterless corner combo from {{clr|3|c.S}}. The {{clr|3|214S}} can be replaced with another {{clr|4|623H}} for 4 more damage, but this can whiff on certain large characters like Potemkin unless the second {{clr|3|c.S}} is not dashed. | | | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > 66{{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 219 || +35% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || High damage meterless corner combo from {{clr|3|c.S}}. The {{clr|3|214S}} can be replaced with another {{clr|4|623H}} for 4 more damage, but this can whiff on certain large characters like Potemkin unless the second {{clr|3|c.S}} is not dashed. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWzyYd8eDq4 YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|3|214S}}, 66{{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}, {{clr|1|5P}}/{{clr|3|c.S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}}/{{clr|3|214S}} || Corner || 238 || +34% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || High damage meterless corner combo from {{clr|3|c.S}}. Replace {{clr|1|5P}} with {{clr|3|c.S}} on Medium/Light characters for more damage. Wall break with {{clr|3|214S}} to trade damage for Shock State. | | | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|3|214S}}, 66{{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}, {{clr|1|5P}}/{{clr|3|c.S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}}/{{clr|3|214S}} || Corner || 238 || +34% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || High damage meterless corner combo from {{clr|3|c.S}}. Replace {{clr|1|5P}} with {{clr|3|c.S}} on Medium/Light characters for more damage. Wall break with {{clr|3|214S}} to trade damage for Shock State. || | ||
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| | CH {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|5|5[D]}}, {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}}, {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Near Corner || | | | CH {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|5|5[D]}}, {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}}, {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Near Corner || 234 || +40% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Counter Hit {{clr|3|c.S}} punish meterless combo that uses {{clr|5|[5D]}} as launcher on CH confirm. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7chKW6L9Eg YT] | ||
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| | CH {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|5|[5D]}}, {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 166 || ~25% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || You can actually confirm the {{clr|5|5[D]}} very late. Can OTG after Foudre Arc with Foudre Arc if you really want, or do a dashing {{clr|4|236H}} for oki. | | | CH {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|5|[5D]}}, {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 166 || ~25% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || You can actually confirm the {{clr|5|5[D]}} very late. Can OTG after Foudre Arc with Foudre Arc if you really want, or do a dashing {{clr|4|236H}} for oki. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaE34WKG9vU YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > 66RRC > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} , {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen | | | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > 66RRC > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} , {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen || 224 || ~-25% || Medium and lightweights || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Good damage, carries to corner for wallbreak from midscreen. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEwa2MxHDQo YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > 66RRC > dash > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} , {{clr|2|5K}} > WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen || | | | {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > 66RRC > dash > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} , {{clr|2|5K}} > WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen || 210 (on Pot) || ~-25% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Alternative version of above that works with heavy characters. Dash is needed or else {{clr|4|623H}} will whiff. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNytgfbGZwQ YT] | ||
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|+{{clr|4|5H}}/{{clr|4|2H}}/{{clr|4|6H}} Combos | |+{{clr|4|5H}}/{{clr|4|2H}}/{{clr|4|6H}} Combos | ||
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| | {{clr|4|2H(1~2)}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Anywhere || 92~106 || ~8% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Basic anti-air confirm. Should work at any height on both normal and counter hit, and also works on grounded hit provided Ky is close enough. | | | AA {{clr|4|2H(1~2)}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Anywhere || 92~106 || ~8% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Basic anti-air confirm. Should work at any height on both normal and counter hit, and also works on grounded hit provided Ky is close enough. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b_njdm6Nvo YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|4|2H(1)}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Midscreen || | | | AA {{clr|4|2H(1)}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Midscreen || 128 || ~19% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Anti-air confirm on falling opponent. Sends the opponent to the corner. At max height {{clr|4|2H}} hit, the {{clr|2|214K}} will send the opponent flying in the opposite direction and drop the combo. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2VWONyyqmM YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|4|2H(1)}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|3|214S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Near Corner || | | | AA {{clr|4|2H(1)}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|3|214S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Near Corner || 197 || +~30% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Similar to above combo adjusted for being close enough to wall stick with {{clr|3|214S}} and then break with {{clr|4|623H}} || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAiDRXOmQ30 YT] | ||
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| | CH {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|4|236H}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || | | | CH {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|4|236H}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 265 || +36% || Light/Medium || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Grounded corner 2H Counter Hit punish. Useful after baiting a throw break attempt with backdash. Needs adjustment to work against heavyweight. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfLXrqp56Cs YT] | ||
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| | CH {{clr|4|2H(1)}} > {{clr|4|236H}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 258 || +38% || Light/Medium || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Anti Air {{clr|4|2H}} Counter Hit meterless punish in corner. | | | CH AA {{clr|4|2H(1)}} > {{clr|4|236H}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 258 || +38% || Light/Medium || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Anti Air {{clr|4|2H}} Counter Hit meterless punish in corner. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQV1rVBSEzg YT] | ||
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| | CH {{clr|4|2H(1)}} > {{clr|4|236H}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > 66{{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} | | | CH AA {{clr|4|2H(1)}} > {{clr|4|236H}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > 66{{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|3|214S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 241 || +41% || Faust & Heavyweight || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Above combo adjusted for heavies and faust. || | ||
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| |{{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > {{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} | | |{{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > {{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 242 || +30% || Medium || {{clr|4|Hard}} || 6H cancel into 623H is pretty tight. {{clr|3|c.S}} can fail to wall stick if hit too late, so {{clr|3|c.S}} can be replaced by {{clr|3|623S}} for a slightly more consistent combo that deals 1 less damage. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYP0KFmYdkg YT] | ||
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| | CH {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 153 || ~30% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || BnB meterless {{clr|4|6H}} counterhit confirm. | | | CH {{clr|4|6H}} > dl.{{clr|2|214K}} > 66{{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 153 || ~30% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || BnB meterless {{clr|4|6H}} counterhit confirm. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FzRx1Sd8r4 YT] | ||
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| | CH {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|2H}} > delay {{clr|3|214S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Near corner || 259 || ~+35% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || One of the highest, if not the highest, meterless confirms available to Ky. Works a bit away from the corner, but requires a dash before the 2H to get to the corner. On Leo, use {{clr|2|2K}} instead of {{clr|3|c.S}} to wallstick. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbbmDRHuWZ8 | | | CH {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|2H}} > delay {{clr|3|214S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Near corner || 259 || ~+35% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || One of the highest, if not the highest, meterless confirms available to Ky. Works a bit away from the corner, but requires a dash before the 2H to get to the corner. On Leo, use {{clr|2|2K}} instead of {{clr|3|c.S}} to wallstick. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbbmDRHuWZ8 YT] | ||
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! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes | ! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes !! Video | ||
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| | {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|236K}} || Anywhere || 121 || 27% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || {{clr|4|j.H}} confirm. Needs a deep {{clr|4|j.H}} or the {{clr|3|c.S}} will not combo. | | | {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|236K}} || Anywhere || 121 || 27% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || {{clr|4|j.H}} confirm. Needs a deep {{clr|4|j.H}} or the {{clr|3|c.S}} will not combo. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-9tAC5KuI8 YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|236K}} > 66RRC > {{clr|4|2H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} | | | {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|236K}} > 66RRC > {{clr|4|2H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen/Near Corner/Corner || 191 || -47% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || RC extension for the above combo that will wall stick via {{clr|2|214K}} from midscreen or closer. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-9tAC5KuI8 YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Near Corner || 197 || ~+34% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Simple meterless wallbreak combo from {{clr|4|j.H}} when near corner. | | | {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|3|214S}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Near Corner || 197 || ~+34% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Simple meterless wallbreak combo from {{clr|4|j.H}} when near corner. || | ||
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| | {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|236K}}(2) > 66RRC > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen || 200 || ~-30% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Deep {{clr|4|j.H}} needed for c.S to work. Works in corner/near corner. | | | {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|236K}}(2) > 66RRC > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > WS {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen || 200 || ~-30% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Deep {{clr|4|j.H}} needed for c.S to work. Works in corner/near corner. || | ||
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! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes | ! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes !! Video | ||
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| | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.SS}} || Anywhere || 158 || +26% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Simple beginner charged Dust combo. | | | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.SS}} || Anywhere || 158 || +26% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Simple beginner charged Dust combo. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziwNirZ5bRM YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > 9jc > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.SS}} || Anywhere || 189 || +29% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Slightly more advanced version of the above. | | | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > 9jc > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.SS}} || Anywhere || 189 || +29% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Slightly more advanced version of the above. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNmIcFZhRg4 YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > 9jc > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > 9jc > {{clr|3|j.SS}} || Anywhere || 211 || +31% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || BnB Dust combo | | | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > 9jc > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > 9jc > {{clr|3|j.SS}} || Anywhere || 211 || +31% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || BnB Dust combo || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-nYRFBescU YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > 9jc > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > 9jc > {{clr|2|j.K}} > {{clr|3|j.SS}} || When Cornered || 216 || 32% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || The extra Homing Jump air time from landing {{clr|5|5[D]}} when cornered allows you to tack on a {{clr|2|j.K}} after the second jump cancel for a bit of extra damage. Even with this added time, you have to be quick and input your attacks as soon as possible. You'll have just barely enough time to get the whole thing. If you aren't cornered, use the above combo instead. | | | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > 9jc > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > 9jc > {{clr|2|j.K}} > {{clr|3|j.SS}} || When Cornered || 216 || 32% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || The extra Homing Jump air time from landing {{clr|5|5[D]}} when cornered allows you to tack on a {{clr|2|j.K}} after the second jump cancel for a bit of extra damage. Even with this added time, you have to be quick and input your attacks as soon as possible. You'll have just barely enough time to get the whole thing. If you aren't cornered, use the above combo instead. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu_PHYYUNNc YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > (Block burst) > 9 > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} 9jc > {{clr|4|j.HH}} || Anywhere || 154 || 18% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Route for blocked burst after Dust launch. The jump after blocked burst needs to be delayed slightly or you will fall out, ending the Homing Jump. | | | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > (Block burst) > 9 > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} 9jc > {{clr|4|j.HH}} || Anywhere || 154 || 18% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Route for blocked burst after Dust launch. The jump after blocked burst needs to be delayed slightly or you will fall out, ending the Homing Jump. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIDmVOxQ0lI YT] | ||
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| | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > 44 (Burst whiffs) > 9 > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.HH}} || Anywhere || 143 || 18% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Alternate route for reading immediate burst after Dust launch. Easier than blocking the burst because no delay is required afterwards, but does less damage. | | | {{clr|5|5[D]}} > [7/8/9] > 44 (Burst whiffs) > 9 > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.HH}} || Anywhere || 143 || 18% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Alternate route for reading immediate burst after Dust launch. Easier than blocking the burst because no delay is required afterwards, but does less damage. Might not be possible after burst hitbox changes || | ||
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| | CH {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 123 || 18% || Everyone || [3] {{clr|3|Medium}} || CH {{clr|5|2D}} confirm into hard knockdown. | | | CH {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > 66{{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 123 || 18% || Everyone || [3] {{clr|3|Medium}} || CH {{clr|5|2D}} confirm into hard knockdown. || | ||
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|+Ground Throw Starter | |+Ground Throw Starter | ||
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! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes | ! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes !! Video | ||
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|| Throw 66RRC > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen/Near corner || | || Throw 66RRC > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|2H(2)}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen/Near corner || 157 || ~-36% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Easy midscreen throw RC combo that leads into wall break from round start distance. Might drop or wall stick earlier if done too close to the corner. For lightweights, the combo needs a slight adjustment of dashing forward after the RRC to bring the opponent closer to the wall. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li7pNqGu7ps YT] | ||
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|| Throw 66RRC > {{clr|5|5[D]}} > {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen/Near corner || 156 || ~-34% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Midscreen throw RC combo. Timing on {{clr|3|2S}} can be tricky as it cannot be buffered from {{clr|5|5[D]}}. If the opponent is not cornered, {{clr|2|5K}} will whiff or fail to wall stick, but the soft knockdown can still allow for an oki setup. {{clr|3|214S}} can be used as the ender for shock state instead of {{clr|4|623H}} for damage. More difficult than the above combo and might whiff at round start distance, but does more damage and gains more tension. | || Throw 66RRC > {{clr|5|5[D]}} > {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Midscreen/Near corner || 156 || ~-34% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Midscreen throw RC combo. Timing on {{clr|3|2S}} can be tricky as it cannot be buffered from {{clr|5|5[D]}}. If the opponent is not cornered, {{clr|2|5K}} will whiff or fail to wall stick, but the soft knockdown can still allow for an oki setup. {{clr|3|214S}} can be used as the ender for shock state instead of {{clr|4|623H}} for damage. More difficult than the above combo and might whiff at round start distance, but does more damage and gains more tension. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOgIrq9A48 YT] | ||
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|| Throw 44RRC > {{clr|4|236H}} > dash > {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 159 || ~ -40% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Hard to burst combo, can dash up and block after fireball to bait the burst again. | || Throw 44RRC > {{clr|4|236H}} > dash > {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 159 || ~ -40% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Hard to burst combo, can dash up and block after fireball to bait the burst again. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n5ZghtRR5c YT] | ||
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|| Throw 44RRC > {{clr|4|236H}} > (66) {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 165 || ~-35% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Burst-safe corner throw RC route. Dashing {{clr|4|6H}} is only necessary if the opponent actually bursts. Against lightweights, can wallsplat with {{clr|3|c.S}} instead of {{clr|2|5K}} for more damage. Against heavyweights, wall stick with {{clr|2|2K}} for more consistency. | || Throw 44RRC > {{clr|4|236H}} > (66) {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 165 || ~-35% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Burst-safe corner throw RC route. Dashing {{clr|4|6H}} is only necessary if the opponent actually bursts. Against lightweights, can wallsplat with {{clr|3|c.S}} instead of {{clr|2|5K}} for more damage. Against heavyweights, wall stick with {{clr|2|2K}} for more consistency. If the opponent ''does'' burst after the 44RC, the combo can still continue if the CSE was timed ''perfectly'' after 44RRC, otherwise Ky simply applies shockstate on block and continues pressure. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wGDJxC5uMw&t=533s YT] | ||
If the opponent ''does'' burst after the 44RC, the combo can still continue if the CSE was timed ''perfectly'' after 44RRC, otherwise Ky simply applies shockstate on block and continues pressure. | |||
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|+Special Move Starter | |+Special Move Starter | ||
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! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes | ! Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Tension Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes !! Video | ||
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|| CH {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || | || CH {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|3|214S}} || Anywhere || 83 || ~18% || Everyone || {{clr|1|Very Easy}} || Ground counterhit Foudre Arc combo. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cs8gtr2WOY YT] | ||
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|| | || AA {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 106 || ~18% || Everyone || {{clr|2|Easy}} || Air hit Foudre Arc combo. Works on counterhit as well || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgIRCrNpcR4 YT] | ||
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|| CH {{clr|3|214S}} > | || CH {{clr|3|214S}} > microdash > {{clr|2|2/5K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > WS > {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 238 || 36% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || corner CH Dire Eclat meterless wallbreak combo. Easier to connect the microdash kick the closer the Eclat hits from. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEenRtnip3o YT] | ||
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|| CH {{clr|3|214S}} > dash > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || | || CH {{clr|3|214S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} WS > {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 258 || 37% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || Close range corner dire eclat CH combo. Drops if Eclat is hit from too far away. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch-noeRhsCo YT] | ||
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|| CH {{clr|3|214S}} > dash > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 159 || ~32% || Everyone || {{clr|5|Very Hard}} || Very difficult microdash confirm off a counterhit Dire Eclat. Much easier to do when the opponent has the corner behind them of course. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXJkXoelGe0 YT] | |||
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|| CH Shock State {{clr|4|623H}} > dash > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|2H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 150 || ~20% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Pretty hard timing to dash after the H DP, have to also time the c.S while Ky is offscreen so it's pretty hard. | || CH Shock State {{clr|4|623H}} > dash > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|2H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} || Anywhere || 150 || ~20% || Everyone || {{clr|4|Hard}} || Pretty hard timing to dash after the H DP, have to also time the c.S while Ky is offscreen so it's pretty hard. || [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUVhdiBohBY YT] | ||
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|| {{clr|2|236K(1)}} > RRC > {{clr|5|[5D]}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|2|6K}} > {{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 167 || -48% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || 50 tension wallbreak combo off of stun dipper in the corner. | || {{clr|2|236K(1)}} > RRC > {{clr|5|[5D]}} > {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|2|6K}} > {{clr|2|5K}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} > {{clr|4|623H}} || Corner || 167 || -48% || Everyone || {{clr|3|Medium}} || 50 tension wallbreak combo off of stun dipper in the corner. || | ||
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| {{clr|2|2K}}/{{clr|2|5K}} || Low starter. Confirms into {{clr|1|6P}} > special cancel or {{clr|5|2D}} for knockdown | | {{clr|2|2K}}/{{clr|2|5K}} || Low starter. Confirms into {{clr|1|6P}} > special cancel or {{clr|5|2D}} for knockdown | ||
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| {{clr|1|2P}}/{{clr| | | {{clr|1|2P}}/{{clr|1|5P}} || Fastest pokes. Confirms into {{clr|1|6P}} > special cancel (generally {{clr|3|Dire Eclat (214S)}}) | ||
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| {{clr|1|6P}} || Primary anti air button, but also good for footsies. Generally cancelled into {{clr|3|Dire Eclat (214S)}} on hit or block, but does counter hit slow long enough to reliably confirm {{clr|4|Ride the Lightning (632146H)}} | | {{clr|1|6P}} || Primary anti air button, but also good for footsies. Generally cancelled into {{clr|3|Dire Eclat (214S)}} on hit or block, but does counter hit slow long enough to reliably confirm {{clr|4|Ride the Lightning (632146H)}} | ||
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| {{clr|3|c.S}} || High damage starter, very good as a meaty or frametrap option. Generally gatling into any {{clr|4|H}} button followed by a special cancel. On counter hit, can confirm into {{clr|5|5[D]}} pop-up. | | {{clr|3|c.S}} || High damage starter, very good as a meaty or frametrap option. Generally gatling into any {{clr|4|H}} button followed by a special cancel. On counter hit, can confirm into {{clr|5|5[D]}} pop-up. | ||
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| {{clr|3|f.S}} / {{clr|3|2S}} || Fast long range pokes. Generally cancelled into {{clr|2|Stun Dipper (236K)}} or {{clr|3|Stun Edge (236S)}}, both of which can be extended via roman cancel for damage and corner carry. | | {{clr|3|f.S}}/{{clr|3|2S}} || Fast long range pokes. Generally cancelled into {{clr|2|Stun Dipper (236K)}} or {{clr|3|Stun Edge (236S)}}, both of which can be extended via roman cancel for damage and corner carry. | ||
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| {{clr|4|5H}} || Slow long range poke that moves Ky forward and is disjointed. Confirms into the same special moves as S normals, but needs a delay for {{clr|2|Stun Dipper (236K)}} to connect both hits depending on distance. | | {{clr|4|5H}} || Slow long range poke that moves Ky forward and is disjointed. Confirms into the same special moves as S normals, but needs a delay for {{clr|2|Stun Dipper (236K)}} to connect both hits depending on distance. | ||
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==={{clr|4|6H}} Wallbounce=== | ==={{clr|4|6H}} Wallbounce=== | ||
In the corner, {{clr|4|6H}} will bounce the opponent off the wall on hit. This allows combo extensions with {{clr|2|214K}} and Shock State {{clr|3|623S}}/{{clr|4|H}} for increased damage. | In the corner, {{clr|4|6H}} will bounce the opponent off the wall on hit. This allows combo extensions with {{clr|2|214K}} (if far enough, that is. {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|2|214K}} will whiff if Ky is too close to the corner) and Shock State {{clr|3|623S}}/{{clr|4|H}} for increased damage. | ||
==={{clr|3|214S}} OTG Relaunch=== | ==={{clr|3|214S}} OTG Relaunch=== | ||
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==={{clr|4|2H}} > Foudre Arc=== | ==={{clr|4|2H}} > Foudre Arc=== | ||
{{clr|4|2H}} combos into {{clr|2|214K}} on most characters. It does not work on Sol, Ky, May, Anji, and Giovanna. | {{clr|4|2H}} combos into {{clr|2|214K}} on most characters. It does not work on grounded Sol, Ky, May, Anji, and Giovanna. | ||
If {{clr|2|214K}} hit your opponent while they were in Shock State, you can usually link a {{clr|2|5K}} or {{clr|2|2K}} and cancel that into Stun Dipper ({{clr|2|236K}}) to end the combo, depending on the character and spacing. A {{clr|2|5K}} link will not work on some characters at all. {{clr|2|2K}} is more reliable since it reaches further. The {{clr|2|2K}} link works on everyone except for I-No. She requires you to be point blank with your {{clr|4|2H}}, otherwise {{clr|2|2K}} won't reach. On the larger characters like Faust, Potemkin, Leo, and Nagoriyuki, you can instead end the combo with Dire Eclat ({{clr|3|214S}}) instead of {{clr|2|236K}}, since their hurtboxes are bigger than the other characters on whom max range {{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|3|214S}} will not work on. This will reapply Shock State, making it preferable over Stun Dipper for these characters. | If {{clr|2|214K}} hit your opponent while they were in Shock State, you can usually link a {{clr|2|5K}} or {{clr|2|2K}} and cancel that into Stun Dipper ({{clr|2|236K}}) to end the combo, depending on the character and spacing. A {{clr|2|5K}} link will not work on some characters at all. {{clr|2|2K}} is more reliable since it reaches further. The {{clr|2|2K}} link works on everyone except for I-No. She requires you to be point blank with your {{clr|4|2H}}, otherwise {{clr|2|2K}} won't reach. On the larger characters like Faust, Potemkin, Leo, and Nagoriyuki, you can instead end the combo with Dire Eclat ({{clr|3|214S}}) instead of {{clr|2|236K}}, since their hurtboxes are bigger than the other characters on whom max range {{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|3|214S}} will not work on. This will reapply Shock State, making it preferable over Stun Dipper for these characters. | ||
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==={{clr|4|623H}} H Vapor Thrust=== | ==={{clr|4|623H}} H Vapor Thrust=== | ||
* Pre DI: Reversal starter, Shock State combo filler, wall breaker. | * Pre DI: Reversal starter, Shock State combo filler, wall breaker. | ||
* DI: | * DI: Better reversal starter ({{clr|3|+}}), all purpose Combo filler ({{clr|3|+++}}), not a good wall breaker (very mild {{clr|4|-}}), air-to-ground combo converter ({{clr|3|+}}). | ||
In DI, H Vapor Thrust is significantly buffed that it pops the opponent very high on hit, even on normal ground hit. Links to a {{clr|3|c.S}} on hit even in midscreen. However, the time to confirm a midscreen hit as a launcher is quite tight, allowing merely 1~2 hits before {{clr|4|623H}} only, and the route is only reliable when in very limited range(e.g. {{clr|2|5K}}/{{clr|2|2K}}/{{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|4|623H}}). Be sure that the opponent is opened up or you will end up with a blocked DP and the round ends. When the opponent is cornered, the confirm window becomes wider with {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}. | In DI, H Vapor Thrust is significantly buffed that it pops the opponent very high on hit, even on normal ground hit. Links to a {{clr|3|c.S}} on hit even in midscreen. However, the time to confirm a midscreen hit as a launcher is quite tight, allowing merely 1~2 hits before {{clr|4|623H}} only, and the route is only reliable when in very limited range(e.g. {{clr|2|5K}}/{{clr|2|2K}}/{{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > {{clr|4|623H}}). Be sure that the opponent is opened up or you will end up with a blocked DP and the round ends. When the opponent is cornered, the confirm window becomes wider with {{clr|3|c.S}} > {{clr|4|6H}} > {{clr|4|623H}}. | ||
Notably DI H Vapor Thrust launches lower and push back harder as combo time goes. To counter this effect, Ky need to launch the opponent early in the combo, with normals or DI H Vapor Thrust, to build up the height, then the rest of the combo can go on with decreased pushed back and enough height in the air. | Notably DI H Vapor Thrust launches lower and push back harder as combo time goes. To counter this effect, Ky need to launch the opponent early in the combo, with normals or DI H Vapor Thrust, to build up the height, then the rest of the combo can go on with decreased pushed back and enough height in the air. | ||
Other than a combo filler, DI H Vapor Thrust has a less seen use: you can actually use a Aerial {{clr|4|623H}} to confirm air hit into ground combo. This must be done high to gain enough frames to attack before the opponent hits the ground though. | |||
H Vapor Thrust is "the wall breaker" before DI, but in DI it becomes a 3-hit move, resulting lower wall break damage. Use {{clr|5|5[D]}} when close and with enough time, or {{clr|4|6H}} as a quicker and longer substitution. | H Vapor Thrust is "the wall breaker" before DI, but in DI it becomes a 3-hit move, resulting lower wall break damage. Use {{clr|5|5[D]}} when close and with enough time, or {{clr|4|6H}} as a quicker and longer substitution. | ||
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... > {{clr|3|214S}} WS WB Damage: 260 | ... > {{clr|3|214S}} WS WB Damage: 260 | ||
... > {{clr|4|6H}} WS, {{clr|5|5[D]}} Damage: 272 (so use {{clr|4|6H}} WS instead if not so confident.) | ... > {{clr|4|6H}} WS, {{clr|5|5[D]}} Damage: 272 (so use {{clr|4|6H}} WS instead if not so confident.) | ||
==={{clr|3|623S}} S Vapor Thrust=== | |||
* Pre DI: Shock State anti-air reversal starter. | |||
* DI: Anti-air reversal starter (mild {{clr|3|+}}). | |||
DI S Vapor Thrust is not so damaging than the H version, but you always need to use it sometime to cover some different area. It pops up significantly lower than the H version so it need some height already built, that is, against an airborne opponent. You will have to decide which move you should use to catch the opponent falling, depending their height, distance, and how the hits connects. It is usually not a good idea to use this move mid combo, since this move deals significantly lower damage than other DI specials (60), and it lacks forward hitbox or momentum to reliably land both hits. | |||
==={{clr|4|236H}} Stun Edge Charge Attack=== | ==={{clr|4|236H}} Stun Edge Charge Attack=== | ||
* Pre DI: Okizeme meaty starter, burst free combo filler, usually works with a RC. | * Pre DI: Okizeme meaty starter, burst free combo filler, usually works with a RC. | ||
* DI: Pretty much the same ( | * DI: Pretty much the same, but with longer hit animation for heavier button to follow up({{clr|3|+}}). | ||
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Combo List
- This list is meant for actual combos, not for frame traps, blockstrings, or mixups. If the combo itself allows to set them up afterwards, it is mentioned in the "Notes" field).
- The list is focused on most practical examples, not every single option that exists.
- All damage values are damage dealt to Ky unless the combo cannot work on him, in which case the character with the closest defense modifier is used.
- The difficulty is ranked on a scale of 1 to 5 (Very Easy, Easy, Medium, Hard and Very Hard) based on various factors (cancel leniency, link timings, special techniques, range consistency, etc).
Combo | Position | Damage | Tension Gain | Works on: | Difficulty | Notes | Video |
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2P > (2P > 2P) > 6P > 214S | Anywhere | 69 | 16% | Everyone | Very Easy | Simple, easy confirm from 2P that grants Shock State. Subtract Ps based on range. Works off of 5P too, but 5P whiffs on most crouchers. | YT |
5K/2K > 2D > 214S | Anywhere | 66~70 | 16% | Everyone | Very Easy | Confirm into Dire Eclat. Grants Shock State and a knockdown. | YT |
5K/2K > 2D | Anywhere | 48 | 10% | Everyone | Very Easy | Confirm off of 5K or 2K into 2D into meaty Charged Stun Edge for both okizeme and Shock State. The CSE will pass over them by the time they get up unless you delay it or if the opponent was hit by 2D at a far enough range. | YT |
5K/2K > 6H > 214S, 662K/5K > 6H > 623H, 5P/c.S WS 623H/214S | Corner | 174 | 30% | Everyone | Hard | High damage corner combo for when the opponent is hit crouching. Replace 5P with c.S on light and medium weights for more damage. Wall break with 214S to trade damage for Shock State. | |
5K/2K > 2D > 214S > RRC, 665H > 623H, c.S > 6H WS > 623H | Back to Corner | 168 | ~-20% | Light and Medium weights | Medium | Side switches and wall breaks. Run under the opponent after the RRC. The RRC can be done as either neutral RRC or 88RRC, but 66RRC will not let you run under the opponent. | YT |
5K/2K > 2D > 214S > RRC, 665H > 623H, 2K > 6P WS 623H | Back to Corner | 154 | ~-20% | Everyone | Hard | Alternate version of the above for heavyweights. Getting the timing for 2K after the Vapor Thrust can be tricky. |
Combo | Position | Damage | Tension Gain | Works on: | Difficulty | Notes | Video |
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c.S > 214S | Anywhere | 77 | +12% | Everyone | Very Easy | Applies Shock State. Sets up safejumps with IAD j.H or 66214K. | YT |
c.S > 5H > 236K | Anywhere | 112 | +17% | Everyone | Easy | Spacing dependent. Delay the cancel from 5H to 236K if close to the opponent. 5H can also be replaced with f.S and 2S. | YT |
c.S > 5H > 236S > 66PRC, 66c.S > 2H(2) > 214S | Anywhere | 167 | ~-23% | Everyone | Medium | Leaves your opponent in Shock State. Can opt to use 2D for CSE Oki instead of ending with 2H(2) > 214S. | YT |
c.S > 6H > 214K > 66c.S > 6H > 214S WS 623H | Corner | 219 | +35% | Everyone | Medium | High damage meterless corner combo from c.S. The 214S can be replaced with another 623H for 4 more damage, but this can whiff on certain large characters like Potemkin unless the second c.S is not dashed. | YT |
c.S > 6H > 214S, 662K > 6H > 623H, 5P/c.S WS 623H/214S | Corner | 238 | +34% | Everyone | Hard | High damage meterless corner combo from c.S. Replace 5P with c.S on Medium/Light characters for more damage. Wall break with 214S to trade damage for Shock State. | |
CH c.S > 5[D], 2S > 5H > 214K, 6H > 214S WS 623H | Near Corner | 234 | +40% | Everyone | Hard | Counter Hit c.S punish meterless combo that uses [5D] as launcher on CH confirm. | YT |
CH c.S > [5D], 2S > 5H > 214K | Anywhere | 166 | ~25% | Everyone | Medium | You can actually confirm the 5[D] very late. Can OTG after Foudre Arc with Foudre Arc if you really want, or do a dashing 236H for oki. | YT |
c.S > 5H > 214S > 66RRC > c.S > 5H > 623H , c.S > 214S > WS 623H | Midscreen | 224 | ~-25% | Medium and lightweights | Medium | Good damage, carries to corner for wallbreak from midscreen. | YT |
c.S > 5H > 214S > 66RRC > dash > c.S > 6H > 623H , 5K > WS 623H | Midscreen | 210 (on Pot) | ~-25% | Everyone | Medium | Alternative version of above that works with heavy characters. Dash is needed or else 623H will whiff. | YT |
Combo | Position | Damage | Tension Gain | Works on: | Difficulty | Notes | Video |
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AA 2H(1~2) > 623H | Anywhere | 92~106 | ~8% | Everyone | Very Easy | Basic anti-air confirm. Should work at any height on both normal and counter hit, and also works on grounded hit provided Ky is close enough. | YT |
AA 2H(1) > 214K > 5H > 214K | Midscreen | 128 | ~19% | Everyone | Easy | Anti-air confirm on falling opponent. Sends the opponent to the corner. At max height 2H hit, the 214K will send the opponent flying in the opposite direction and drop the combo. | YT |
AA 2H(1) > 214K > 5H > 214K > c.S > 214S WS 623H | Near Corner | 197 | +~30% | Everyone | Easy | Similar to above combo adjusted for being close enough to wall stick with 214S and then break with 623H | YT |
CH 2H(2) > 236H > 6H > 623H > c.S > 5H WS 623H | Corner | 265 | +36% | Light/Medium | Medium | Grounded corner 2H Counter Hit punish. Useful after baiting a throw break attempt with backdash. Needs adjustment to work against heavyweight. | YT |
CH AA 2H(1) > 236H > 6H > 623H > c.S > 5H > 214K WS 623H | Corner | 258 | +38% | Light/Medium | Medium | Anti Air 2H Counter Hit meterless punish in corner. | YT |
CH AA 2H(1) > 236H > 5H > 214K > 66c.S > 5H > 214S WS 623H | Corner | 241 | +41% | Faust & Heavyweight | Medium | Above combo adjusted for heavies and faust. | |
2H(2) > 214S > 5K > 6H > 623H > c.S WS 623H | Corner | 242 | +30% | Medium | Hard | 6H cancel into 623H is pretty tight. c.S can fail to wall stick if hit too late, so c.S can be replaced by 623S for a slightly more consistent combo that deals 1 less damage. | YT |
CH 6H > dl.214K > 662S > 5H > 214K | Anywhere | 153 | ~30% | Everyone | Medium | BnB meterless 6H counterhit confirm. | YT |
CH 6H > 2H > delay 214S > 6H > 623H > c.S > 623H | Near corner | 259 | ~+35% | Everyone | Hard | One of the highest, if not the highest, meterless confirms available to Ky. Works a bit away from the corner, but requires a dash before the 2H to get to the corner. On Leo, use 2K instead of c.S to wallstick. | YT |
Combo | Position | Damage | Tension Gain | Works on: | Difficulty | Notes | Video |
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j.H > c.S > 5H > 236K | Anywhere | 121 | 27% | Everyone | Easy | j.H confirm. Needs a deep j.H or the c.S will not combo. | YT |
j.H > c.S > 5H > 236K > 66RRC > 2H > 214K WS 623H | Midscreen/Near Corner/Corner | 191 | -47% | Everyone | Easy | RC extension for the above combo that will wall stick via 214K from midscreen or closer. | YT |
j.H > c.S > 6H > 214K > 2H(2) > 214S > 623H | Near Corner | 197 | ~+34% | Everyone | Easy | Simple meterless wallbreak combo from j.H when near corner. | |
j.H > c.S > 5H > 236K(2) > 66RRC > c.S > 6H > 623H > WS 623H | Midscreen | 200 | ~-30% | Everyone | Medium | Deep j.H needed for c.S to work. Works in corner/near corner. |
Combo | Position | Damage | Tension Gain | Works on: | Difficulty | Notes | Video |
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5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.SS | Anywhere | 158 | +26% | Everyone | Very Easy | Simple beginner charged Dust combo. | YT |
5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.S > 9jc > j.H > j.SS | Anywhere | 189 | +29% | Everyone | Easy | Slightly more advanced version of the above. | YT |
5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.S > 9jc > j.H > j.S > j.H > 9jc > j.SS | Anywhere | 211 | +31% | Everyone | Medium | BnB Dust combo | YT |
5[D] > [7/8/9] > j.H > j.S > 9jc > j.H > j.S > j.H > 9jc > j.K > j.SS | When Cornered | 216 | 32% | Everyone | Medium | The extra Homing Jump air time from landing 5[D] when cornered allows you to tack on a j.K after the second jump cancel for a bit of extra damage. Even with this added time, you have to be quick and input your attacks as soon as possible. You'll have just barely enough time to get the whole thing. If you aren't cornered, use the above combo instead. | YT |
5[D] > [7/8/9] > (Block burst) > 9 > j.H > j.S > j.H 9jc > j.HH | Anywhere | 154 | 18% | Everyone | Medium | Route for blocked burst after Dust launch. The jump after blocked burst needs to be delayed slightly or you will fall out, ending the Homing Jump. | YT |
5[D] > [7/8/9] > 44 (Burst whiffs) > 9 > j.S > j.H > j.S > j.HH | Anywhere | 143 | 18% | Everyone | Easy | Alternate route for reading immediate burst after Dust launch. Easier than blocking the burst because no delay is required afterwards, but does less damage. Might not be possible after burst hitbox changes | |
CH 2D > 214K > 662S > 5H > 214K | Anywhere | 123 | 18% | Everyone | [3] Medium | CH 2D confirm into hard knockdown. |
Combo | Position | Damage | Tension Gain | Works on: | Difficulty | Notes | Video |
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Throw 66RRC > c.S > 2H(2) > 214K > 5H > 214K > 623H | Midscreen/Near corner | 157 | ~-36% | Everyone | Easy | Easy midscreen throw RC combo that leads into wall break from round start distance. Might drop or wall stick earlier if done too close to the corner. For lightweights, the combo needs a slight adjustment of dashing forward after the RRC to bring the opponent closer to the wall. | YT |
Throw 66RRC > 5[D] > 2S > 5H > 214K > 5K > 623H | Midscreen/Near corner | 156 | ~-34% | Everyone | Hard | Midscreen throw RC combo. Timing on 2S can be tricky as it cannot be buffered from 5[D]. If the opponent is not cornered, 5K will whiff or fail to wall stick, but the soft knockdown can still allow for an oki setup. 214S can be used as the ender for shock state instead of 623H for damage. More difficult than the above combo and might whiff at round start distance, but does more damage and gains more tension. | YT |
Throw 44RRC > 236H > dash > 2S > 5H > 214K > 623H | Corner | 159 | ~ -40% | Everyone | Hard | Hard to burst combo, can dash up and block after fireball to bait the burst again. | YT |
Throw 44RRC > 236H > (66) 6H > 623H > 5K > 623H | Corner | 165 | ~-35% | Everyone | Hard | Burst-safe corner throw RC route. Dashing 6H is only necessary if the opponent actually bursts. Against lightweights, can wallsplat with c.S instead of 5K for more damage. Against heavyweights, wall stick with 2K for more consistency. If the opponent does burst after the 44RC, the combo can still continue if the CSE was timed perfectly after 44RRC, otherwise Ky simply applies shockstate on block and continues pressure. | YT |
Combo | Position | Damage | Tension Gain | Works on: | Difficulty | Notes | Video |
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CH 214K > 2K > 214S | Anywhere | 83 | ~18% | Everyone | Very Easy | Ground counterhit Foudre Arc combo. | YT |
AA 214K > 2S > 5H > 214K | Anywhere | 106 | ~18% | Everyone | Easy | Air hit Foudre Arc combo. Works on counterhit as well | YT |
CH 214S > microdash > 2/5K > 6H > 623H > c.S > 6H > WS > 623H | Corner | 238 | 36% | Everyone | Medium | corner CH Dire Eclat meterless wallbreak combo. Easier to connect the microdash kick the closer the Eclat hits from. | YT |
CH 214S > 6H > 623H > c.S > 6H > 623H WS > 623H | Corner | 258 | 37% | Everyone | Medium | Close range corner dire eclat CH combo. Drops if Eclat is hit from too far away. | YT |
CH 214S > dash > 5H > 214K > 5H > 214K | Anywhere | 159 | ~32% | Everyone | Very Hard | Very difficult microdash confirm off a counterhit Dire Eclat. Much easier to do when the opponent has the corner behind them of course. | YT |
CH Shock State 623H > dash > c.S > 2H > 214K | Anywhere | 150 | ~20% | Everyone | Hard | Pretty hard timing to dash after the H DP, have to also time the c.S while Ky is offscreen so it's pretty hard. | YT |
236K(1) > RRC > [5D] > c.S > 6K > 5K > 6H > 623H > 623H | Corner | 167 | -48% | Everyone | Medium | 50 tension wallbreak combo off of stun dipper in the corner. |
Combo Theory
Button | Use |
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2K/5K | Low starter. Confirms into 6P > special cancel or 2D for knockdown |
2P/5P | Fastest pokes. Confirms into 6P > special cancel (generally Dire Eclat (214S)) |
6P | Primary anti air button, but also good for footsies. Generally cancelled into Dire Eclat (214S) on hit or block, but does counter hit slow long enough to reliably confirm Ride the Lightning (632146H) |
c.S | High damage starter, very good as a meaty or frametrap option. Generally gatling into any H button followed by a special cancel. On counter hit, can confirm into 5[D] pop-up. |
f.S/2S | Fast long range pokes. Generally cancelled into Stun Dipper (236K) or Stun Edge (236S), both of which can be extended via roman cancel for damage and corner carry. |
5H | Slow long range poke that moves Ky forward and is disjointed. Confirms into the same special moves as S normals, but needs a delay for Stun Dipper (236K) to connect both hits depending on distance. |
6H | Long range disjointed mid that hits low to the ground. Launches the opponent away on hit, causing a wall bounce when near the corner. Strong meaty as well as frametrap option from K normals. |
2H | Slow committal anti air, generally only used for predictable air options or hard reads, but is a potent frametrap in the corner via 2S or backdash to bait a throw break. |
2D | Great range sweep for hard knockdown. Delay a special cancel Charged Stun Edge (236H) for Okizeme. On counter hit, can convert into a combo via Foudre Arc (214K) or 2S > 5H |
Get the Knockdown/Push to the Corner
The goal with combos is to end them in a way that gets you some kind of advantage beyond just damage. You can end combos into a knockdown, or corner carry to put yourself in a better position. Each ender you choose will set up a different situation after the combo, so think about what you want to accomplish.
Example enders:
- ... > 2D
- Hard knockdown close to Ky, allowing many okizeme setups.
- ... > 2D > 214S
- Corner carry with a knockdown farther from Ky that still allows for good oki.
- f.S/2S > 236K
- Corner carry and damage option, but with weaker oki due to Stun Dipper's short knockdown time.
- ...(airborne opponent) > 5H/2H > 214K
- Large amount of corner carry.
- ... > 632146H / 236236P
- Overdrive ender for high damage, and in Ride The Lightning's case a huge amount of corner carry, wallbreaking from a slightly further distance than round start position.
5H > Foudre Arc Loops
5H launches opponents vertically on air hit, putting them in the perfect position for Foudre Arc (214K) afterwards. This sequence can be looped off a wide variety of starters for a large amount of corner carry as long as 5H hits the opponent in the air, including (but not limited to) Red Roman Cancel's launch, anti-air 5P/2H, and CH 6H. When the corner carry is enough to reach the corner itself, 5K 6H after the second 214K is very likely to wall stick, earning you Positive Bonus from the resulting Wall Break.
6H Wallbounce
In the corner, 6H will bounce the opponent off the wall on hit. This allows combo extensions with 214K (if far enough, that is. 6H > 214K will whiff if Ky is too close to the corner) and Shock State 623S/H for increased damage.
214S OTG Relaunch
In the corner, combos that don't push you out too far can be ended in 214S and picked up with an Off-the-Ground hit to continue the combo, taking advantage of the applied Shock State to increase your damage.
Essentially, there's a short time after an opponent is hit by 214S that they can be launched into the air again if struck by an attack. The most reliable move you have to do this with is 2K, since it's very fast, reaches a long distance, and gatlings to 6H to allow you to wallbounce the opponent.
Example routes:
- c.S > 6H > 214S, 662K > 6H > SS 623H, 5P > 623H
- CH 214S, 66H > 623H > c.S > 6H > 623H > 623S
5[D] Pickup
After any Red Roman Cancel (easiest with 66RC) and also certain counterhits (such as c.S), Ky can use a fully charged Dust to pop the opponent up in the air, allowing certain combo pickups. The most common route after 5[D] popup is 2S > 5H > 214K > ...
This works anywhere on the screen and is consistent against all characters.
2H > Foudre Arc
2H combos into 214K on most characters. It does not work on grounded Sol, Ky, May, Anji, and Giovanna.
If 214K hit your opponent while they were in Shock State, you can usually link a 5K or 2K and cancel that into Stun Dipper (236K) to end the combo, depending on the character and spacing. A 5K link will not work on some characters at all. 2K is more reliable since it reaches further. The 2K link works on everyone except for I-No. She requires you to be point blank with your 2H, otherwise 2K won't reach. On the larger characters like Faust, Potemkin, Leo, and Nagoriyuki, you can instead end the combo with Dire Eclat (214S) instead of 236K, since their hurtboxes are bigger than the other characters on whom max range 2K > 214S will not work on. This will reapply Shock State, making it preferable over Stun Dipper for these characters.
Dragon Installed Combo Guide
In DI state Ky's combos are greatly improved in damage and Okizeme, but they executes in quite a different way. You need to know well about how the DI specials change to create your own efficient DI combos.
- The specials are mainly ranked in efficiency (for your reference) in DI state COMBOS.
623H H Vapor Thrust
- Pre DI: Reversal starter, Shock State combo filler, wall breaker.
- DI: Better reversal starter (+), all purpose Combo filler (+++), not a good wall breaker (very mild -), air-to-ground combo converter (+).
In DI, H Vapor Thrust is significantly buffed that it pops the opponent very high on hit, even on normal ground hit. Links to a c.S on hit even in midscreen. However, the time to confirm a midscreen hit as a launcher is quite tight, allowing merely 1~2 hits before 623H only, and the route is only reliable when in very limited range(e.g. 5K/2K/c.S > 2D > 623H). Be sure that the opponent is opened up or you will end up with a blocked DP and the round ends. When the opponent is cornered, the confirm window becomes wider with c.S > 6H > 623H.
Notably DI H Vapor Thrust launches lower and push back harder as combo time goes. To counter this effect, Ky need to launch the opponent early in the combo, with normals or DI H Vapor Thrust, to build up the height, then the rest of the combo can go on with decreased pushed back and enough height in the air.
Other than a combo filler, DI H Vapor Thrust has a less seen use: you can actually use a Aerial 623H to confirm air hit into ground combo. This must be done high to gain enough frames to attack before the opponent hits the ground though.
H Vapor Thrust is "the wall breaker" before DI, but in DI it becomes a 3-hit move, resulting lower wall break damage. Use 5[D] when close and with enough time, or 6H as a quicker and longer substitution.
236K Stun Dipper
- Pre DI: Mid-range soft knock down securer.
- DI: High damage hard knock down securer, great ender of midscreen combos (++).
Stun Dipper is another greatly buffed move in DI. It now HKD the opponent for Ky, allowing a Stun Edge Charge Attack Okizeme, making this move far beyond a mid-range soft knock down securer. Easiest way to utilize DI Stun Dipper is to simply cancel from 2D to add free damage without losing any bit of Okizeme. For short combos in midscreen, Stun Dipper works well against airborne opponents, but usually you need to delay the input for a full hit. Moreover, DI Stun Dipper gets 80% extra damage, making it an optimized ender in case of both damage and Okizeme midscreen.
e.g. 5K > 2D > 236236P, 5H > dl 236K(, 236H) Damage: 171 5K > 2D > 236236P, 5H > 214K(, dash button236H) Damage: 160
214K Foudre Arc
- Pre DI: Mid-range hard knock down securer, corner combo filler.
- DI: Basically works the same, but the damage is poor when compared to other DI move (-). More inconsistent issues with 3 hits (-).
DI Foudre Arc works pretty much the same in DI, but the damage is much lower than DI H Vapor Thrust. This means the more Foudre Arc you use in a combo, the poorer damage it will deal. As a mid screen HKD ender, it deals less damage than Stun Dipper with no other advantage. However, Foudre Arc still holds the place of the corner pusher when the opponent is out of DI H Vapor Thrust 's range.
Another issue of DI Foudre Arc is the increased hits. DI Foudre Arc tends to whiff some hits when used late in combo, due to the opponent is pushed out of its range in previous hits, which can lead to combo drop or fail to wall stick. When used nearly Wall Stick, this move can itself Wall Stick and then Wall Break, resulting a very poor ender: it is not damaging at all and impossible to convert into a super Wall Break.
214S Dire Eclat
- Pre DI: Mid screen close range hard knock down ender, frametrap meterless CH combo starter, high damage Shock State applier in corner combos.
- DI: Still a nice close range hard knock down ender (~), more damaging frametrap meterless CH combo starter with larger push back (~), no more Shock State during DI, and it is a overall bad move mid combo (--).
Dire Eclat is always "the move" to cancel into after 2P/5P*n > 6P, in DI or not. It still holds the ability to start meterless frametrap CH punish combos, with improved damage during DI.
e.g. Corner CH 214S, 5H > 214K, 665K > 6H > 236K WS 5[D] Damage: 234.
When used mid combo, the increased hits makes the push back so hard that OTG pick up is extremely hard. If you are in range of DI Dire Eclat, you can almost always do a H Vapor Thrust instead to reach much higher damage with even easier execution. This move also has the same multi-hit based problem just like DI Foudre Arc, making it a poor Wall Sticker.
236S Stun Edge
- Pre DI: Rarely used in combo without RC.
- DI: Optimized Wall Sticker, but with some very tight calculation and execution (+).
DI Stun Edge gets 100% damage boost, hits quite hard at 60 damage, and it only deals two hits, which makes it perfect to wall stick even from a distance (actually it does the job better when used from a distance). However, when used point blank in the corner it can Wall Break from itself if a miscalculation happens, or even execute the combo slightly slower can lead to a early Wall Break. On a successful Wall Stick, use 5[D] when close, or 6H as a quicker and longer substitution. Other than that, it remains the same with high damage boost, and works well with PRC.
e.g. Midscreen c.S > 623H, c.S > 5H > 623H, c.S > 236S WS, 5[D] Damage: 273 ... > 214S WS WB Damage: 260 ... > 6H WS, 5[D] Damage: 272 (so use 6H WS instead if not so confident.)
623S S Vapor Thrust
- Pre DI: Shock State anti-air reversal starter.
- DI: Anti-air reversal starter (mild +).
DI S Vapor Thrust is not so damaging than the H version, but you always need to use it sometime to cover some different area. It pops up significantly lower than the H version so it need some height already built, that is, against an airborne opponent. You will have to decide which move you should use to catch the opponent falling, depending their height, distance, and how the hits connects. It is usually not a good idea to use this move mid combo, since this move deals significantly lower damage than other DI specials (60), and it lacks forward hitbox or momentum to reliably land both hits.
236H Stun Edge Charge Attack
- Pre DI: Okizeme meaty starter, burst free combo filler, usually works with a RC.
- DI: Pretty much the same, but with longer hit animation for heavier button to follow up(+).