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Hitboxes 3 and 4 will almost always hit on 1st active frame.
Hitboxes 3 and 4 will almost always hit on 1st active frame.
==236236S Hit Advantage==
{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;text-align: center"
|-
! Characters !! Advantage
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|A.B.A}} || +79
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Anji}} || +33
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Axl}} || +34
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Baiken}} || +50
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Bridget}} || +54
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Chipp}} || +20
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Dizzy}} || +12
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Eddie}} || +20
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Faust}} || +27
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|I-No}} || +32
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Jam}} || +35
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Johnny}} || +46
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Justice}} || +1
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Kliff}} || 0
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Ky}} || +44
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|May}} || 0
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Millia}} || +40
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Order-Sol}} || +32
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Potemkin}} || +78
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Robo-Ky}} || +44
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Slayer}} || +61
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Sol}} || +32
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Testament}} || +14
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Venom}} || +36
|-
| {{CLabel|GGACR|Zappa}} || +49
|}


==IK Usage Guide==
==IK Usage Guide==
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===Collision Box Sizes===
==Venom Ballboxes==
{{#invoke:Tier List|drawTierList
Like other things in the game balls are interactable with using boxes. Normally hitboxes are used for this purpose—balls can even be hit using currently inactive ones. However there are some solely ball interaction.
|GGACR
 
|51x111;Baiken
In inert stage balls are interacted with using their "collision" box (orange), while active balls use their hitbox.
|57x131;Bridget
 
|61x111;Kliff,May
<gallery widths="200px" heights="200px" mode="packed">
|61x121;Dizzy,Jam,Ky,Millia,Robo-Ky
GGACR_Venom_Ballbox1.png|Inert and active interaction zones comparison
|61x131;Anji,Axl,Chipp,Eddie,I-No,Johnny,Order-Sol,Slayer,Sol,Testament,Venom,Zappa
</gallery>
|77x121;Faust
 
|77x141;Justice
Attacks that spawn balls, like Stinger Aim, also use those boxes and can be utilized to hit balls outside of launched projectile's trajectory. Another quirk about those is that ball spawns before startup and can be hit by other active balls.
|81x121;A.B.A
 
|81x141;Potemkin
<gallery widths="200px" heights="200px" mode="packed">
}}
GGACR_Venom_Ballbox2.png|Stinger early actives
GGACR_Venom_Ballbox3.png|Stinger late actives
GGACR_Venom_Ballbox4.png|Carcass
GGACR_Venom_j236S_Hitbox_1.png|Red Hail reuses S Mad Struggle hitboxes
</gallery>
 
6H has two hitboxes exclusively for hitting balls. They will hit balls below or inside Venom and send them straight up.
 
<gallery widths="200px" heights="200px" mode="packed">
GGACR_Venom-EX_6H_Hitbox_4.png|Frames 21-22 (was active hitbox before +R)
GGACR_Venom_Ballbox5.png|Frames 23-24
</gallery>


===Temp===
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[[File:BBCF_Terumi_JarakuEnkokusen2.png]]
[[File:BDC_Invuln_Guide_by_Loekkson_pt1.png]]
[[File:BDC_Invuln_Guide_by_Loekkson_pt2.png]]
[[File:BBTAG_Nu_5BB_Hitbox.png]]
[[File:BBTAG_Nu_5BB_Hitbox.png]]
[[File:BBCF_Kokonoe_BlackHole2.png]]
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==EX Dump==
==EX Dump==
==Changes==
Lists changes from +R normal version of the character since those are more fammiliar to target audience. Changes that revert properties to AC behavior will be noted separately.
==={{Character Label|GGACR|Sol Badguy|32px|linkOverride=GGACR/Sol Badguy/EX}}===
;{{clr|seagreen|AC}} changes
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=c.S|label={{Clr|3|c.S}}}}
*Recovery increased 12 > 16
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=5D|label={{Clr|5|5D}}}}
*Startup decreased (24 > 22)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=6H|label={{Clr|4|6H}}}}
*Increased damage (32×2 > 40×2)
*Increased attack level (4 > 5)
*Increased GB+ (10×2 > 20×2)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=2H|label={{Clr|4|2H}}}}
*Untechable time on CH reduced (60 > 40)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=2D|label={{Clr|5|2D}}}}
*Initial proration removed
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=j.S|label={{Clr|3|j.S}}}}
*Initial proration added (90%)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=63214D|label=Fafnir}}
*Wallbounces on normal and clean hit
*Reduced throw invul (1~10 > 1~7)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=63214D > 46D|label=Tyrant Rave}}
*Damage on first three hits increased (25 > 40)
*Last hit wallbounces, more untech time (24 > 40)
*Changed input (64D > 46D)
;EX Changes
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=6P|label={{Clr|1|6P}}}}
*Now staggers on hit
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=j.D|label={{Clr|5|j.D}}}}
*Untech time increased (27 > 40)
*Wallbounces on normal hit
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=623S|label=Volcanic Viper}}
*Now cancels into Sidewinder
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=623X > 214H|label=Sidewinder}}
*Changed input (j.236H > Volcanic Viper~214H)
*Startup increased (9 > 10)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=63214D|label=Fafnir}}
*Changed input (41236D > 63214D)
Added: {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=236K|label=Flame Dipper}}, {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=236D|label=Gunflame: Charge}}, {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=623D|label=FB Grand Viper}}, {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=632146H|label=Tyrant Rave ver. Alpha}}, {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=214214S|label=Wild Punch}}, {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Sol Badguy EX|input=236236P|label=Savage Fang}}
Replaced: {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=236P|label=Gunflame}}, {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=236K|label=Bandit Revolver}}
Removed: {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=214P|label=Gunflame Feint}}, {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=623H > 214K|label=Knockdown}}, {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=236[K]|label=Bandit Bringer}}, {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=214K|label=Riot Stamp}}, {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=41236H|label=Fafnir}}, {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=j.236D|label=FB Sidewinder}}, {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=632146H|label=Tyrant Rave ver. Beta}}, {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Sol Badguy|input=214214S|label=Dragon Install}} and all associated moves
==={{Character Label|GGACR|Order-Sol|32px|linkOverride=GGACR/Order-Sol/EX}}===
General:
*All normal moves (except {{clr|3|f.S}}) and some special moves are replaced with those of normal Sol. Will be compared to them.
;{{clr|seagreen|AC}} changes
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=c.S|label={{Clr|3|c.S}}}}
*Recovery increased 12 > 16 (on block 0 > -4)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=5D|label={{Clr|5|5D}}}}
*Startup decreased (24 > 22)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=6H|label={{Clr|4|6H}}}}
*Increased damage (32×2 > 40×2)
*Increased attack level (4 > 5)
*Increased GB+ (10×2 > 20×2)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=2H|label={{Clr|4|2H}}}}
*Untechable time on CH reduced (60 > 40)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=2D|label={{Clr|5|2D}}}}
*Initial proration removed
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=j.S|label={{Clr|3|j.S}}}}
*Initial proration added (90%)
;EX Changes
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=6P|label={{Clr|1|6P}}}}
*Startup reduced (11 > 9)
*Untech reduced (30 > 28)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=6H|label={{Clr|4|6H}}}}
*Startup reduced (13 > 12)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=2H|label={{Clr|4|2H}}}}
*Hitboxes size increased
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=j.D|label={{Clr|5|j.D}}}}
*Untech time increased (27 > 30)
*Hitboxes changed slightly
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=DAA|label=Dead Angle Attack}}
*Active frames reduced (5 > 3), second hitbox is inactive
*Recovery reduced (17 > 14)
*Throw invul reduced (1~23 > 1~19)
*Untech on air hit increased (14 > 28)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=623H|label=Volcanic Viper (All versions)}}
*Removed followup
*Added FRC point
*Landing recovery reduced (10 > 8)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=623S|label=Ground S Volcanic Viper}}
*Strike invul reduced (1~13 > 1~12)
*Second hitbox changed to that of DI SVV
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=623D|label=FB Volcanic Viper}}
*Now a forcebreak (does not grant meter)
*Damage reduced (60, 18×9 > 50, 12×9)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=236K|label=Ground Bandit Revolver}}
*Landing recovery increased (7 > 8) '''{{Clr|4|DOUBLE CHECK}}'''
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=j.236K|label=Air Bandit Revolver}}
*Added 2nd hitbox of ground version
*Increased number of hits (3 > 4), hits 3 and 4 now hit Mid
*Increased launch untech (24 > 28)
*Reduced air untech (24, 32, 28 > 12)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=214S|label=Rock It}}
*Changed input (236S > 214S)
*Only Level 1 version available
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=63214D|label=Fafnir}}
*Changed input (41236D > 63214D)
*Can now be cancelled into
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=236D|label=FB Gunflame}}
*Now a forcebreak (meter gain severely reduced)
*Startup reduced (20 > 14)
*Recovery increased (7 > 14)
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=632146H|label=Tyrant Rave}}
*Only 3rd hit is present
*Increased damage (128 > 135)
*Changed startup and recovery
*Untech time increased (95 > 100), added Wallbounce
{{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=6321463214S|label=Dragon Install Morbid World}}
*Changed initial input (632146S > 6321463214S)
*Reduced 1st hit untech time (100 > 18)
Added: {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=236236H|label=Instant Kill}}, {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=66 > P|label=P Special Skill}}, {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Order-Sol EX|input=66 > K|label=K Special Skill}}
<!--==Gatling Tables==
<!--==Gatling Tables==
===ABA===
{| class='wikitable' style="text-align: center; margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"
|+Ground Gatlings
|-
!
! P !! K !! S !! H !! D !! Cancel
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=5P}}
| 5P, 2P, 6P || 5K, 2K || c.S, f.S, 2S || 5H, 2H, 6H || 5D, 2D || Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=2P}}
| {{color|green|5P<sup>[+]</sup>, 2P<sup>[+]</sup>, 6P<sup>[+]</sup>}} || {{color|green|5K<sup>[+]</sup>, 2K<sup>[+]</sup>}} || c.S, f.S, 2S || 5H, 6H || 5D, 2D || Jump, Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=6P}}
| - || - || 2S || 6H || - || Jump (2nd hit), Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=5K}}
| 6P || 5K || c.S, f.S, 2S || 5H, 6H || 5D, 2D || Jump, Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=2K}}
| 6P || - || c.S, f.S, 2S || 6H || 5D, 2D || Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=c.S}}
| 6P || - || f.S, 2S || 5H, 2H, 6H || 5D, 2D || Jump, Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=f.S}}
| - || - || 2S || 5H, 2H, 6H || 5D, 2D || Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=2S}}
| - || - || - || - || 5D, 2D || Jump, Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=5H}}
| - || - || 2S || 2H, 6H || 5D, 2D || Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=2H}}
| - || - || 2S || - || - || Jump (2nd hit), Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=6H}}
| - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=5D}}
| - || - || - || - || - || Homing Jump
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=2D}}
| - || - || - || - || - || Special
|-
|}
{| class='wikitable' style="text-align: center; margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"
|+Air Gatlings
|-
!
! P !! K !! S !! H !! D !! Cancel
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=j.P}}
| {{color|green|j.P<sup>[+]</sup>}} || {{color|green|j.K<sup>[+]</sup>}} || j.S || j.H || j.D || Jump, Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=j.K}}
| j.P || - || j.S || - || j.D || Jump, Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=j.S}}
| j.P || j.K || - || j.H || j.D || Jump, Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=j.H}}
| - || - || - || - || j.D || Special
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=A.B.A EX|input=j.D}}
| - || - || - || - || - || Special
|-
|}
*5D can be only canceled into Homing Jump on ground hit
*2H gatlings on 2nd hit only
:'''X''' = X is available on hit or block
:{{color|green|'''X<sup>[+]</sup>''' <nowiki>=</nowiki> X is available on hit, block, or whiff}}
===Axl===
===Axl===
5P and 2P gatlings changed. Removed 2H > 2D, 6K jump cancel. Added j.6P > j.S.
5P and 2P gatlings changed. Removed 2H > 2D, 6K jump cancel. Added j.6P > j.S.
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|-
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Axl Low EX|input=6H}}
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Axl Low EX|input=6H}}
| - || - || - || - || - || -
| - || - || - || - || - || Special
|-
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Axl Low EX|input=5D}}
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Axl Low EX|input=5D}}
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|-
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Anji Mito EX|input=6H}}
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Anji Mito EX|input=6H}}
| - || - || - || - || - || Jump (1st-2nd hits)
| - || - || - || - || - || Jump (1st-2nd hits), Special (1st-2nd hits)
|-
|-
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Anji Mito EX|input=5D}}
! {{MMC|game=GGACREX|chara=Anji Mito EX|input=5D}}

Revision as of 21:24, 23 February 2023

Stolen tables

K Nuke Manual Detonation Chart

Character Can Run Under Will Connect on Crouching Block? Will Hit Neutral Crouch? Notes
 A.B.A No No No
 Anji Mito No Inconsistent No
 Axl Low Yes1 Inconsistent Inconsistent
 Baiken No No No
 Bridget No No No
 Chipp Zanuff No No No
 Dizzy No Inconsistent Depends on Idle Animation
 Eddie No No No
 Faust Yes No No
 I-No No No Depends on Idle Animation
 Jam Kuradoberi No No No
 Johnny No Inconsistent Depends on Idle Animation
 Justice No Yes Almost Guaranteed
 Kliff Undersn Yes No No
 Ky Kiske No No Depends on Idle Animation
 May No No No
 Millia Rage Yes Inconsistent No
 Order-Sol Yes1 Inconsistent Inconsistent
 Potemkin No Yes Yes
 Robo-Ky No Yes2 Almost Guaranteed2
 Slayer No No Almost Guaranteed
 Sol Badguy Yes1 Inconsistent Inconsistent
 Testament No No Depends on Idle Animation
 Venom No No No
 Zappa Yes No No
1: Can be hit during specific parts of running animation
2: Must detonate behind him

Bandit Revolver Block Frame Advantage

Characters Hitbox Number Frame Advantage Notes
Anji, Axl, Eddie, Johnny, Justice,
Slayer, Order-Sol, Sol, Testament, Venom
1st -4~-2 Will only hit very close, otherwise goes to hitbox number 2.
Hits most characters on 2nd active (-3 on block).
Anji, Justice confirmed on 1st active.
Jam, Dizzy, I-No, Millia, Potemkin 2nd -1~0 The more common one to hit.
ABA, Bridget, Chipp, Faust, Ky, May, Robo-Ky, Zappa 3rd +1~+2 Max range of the move.
Hits crouching Potemkin.
Baiken, Kliff 4th +3~+4 Hits all other crouchers.

Hitboxes 3 and 4 will almost always hit on 1st active frame.

236236S Hit Advantage

Characters Advantage
 A.B.A +79
 Anji +33
 Axl +34
 Baiken +50
 Bridget +54
 Chipp +20
 Dizzy +12
 Eddie +20
 Faust +27
 I-No +32
 Jam +35
 Johnny +46
 Justice +1
 Kliff 0
 Ky +44
 May 0
 Millia +40
 Order-Sol +32
 Potemkin +78
 Robo-Ky +44
 Slayer +61
 Sol +32
 Testament +14
 Venom +36
 Zappa +49

IK Usage Guide

Reference Chart

Character IK mode activation Startup Total Range Stun potential Notes
 A.B.A 68 36 104 Short Medium
 Anji Mito 54 21 75 Fullscreen1 Low Travels from the edge of screen, making the startup a lot longer in practice. Disables screen zooming until recovery.
 Axl Low 90 28 118 Long Low
 Baiken 84 17 101 Fullscreen1 Medium Travels somewhat fast, max distance around 2/3 of the stage.
 Bridget 60 13 76 Medium1 Very Low Takes a few frames to reach max distance.
 Chipp Zanuff 94 56 150 Short-Medium Low Short at ground height. Roundstart distance at jump height. 0 frames post flash.
 Dizzy N/A (30) 106 136 Short Medium Activation is minimum charge time. Requires non jumpable state and has slow input. Executed fast will still be faster than Chipp's.
 Eddie 68 13 81 Short Low Very low profile frames during IK mode activation.
 Faust 82 17 99 Medium Medium
 I-No 76 15 91 Short Low
 Jam Kuradoberi 54 17 71 Long1 High Travels pretty fast for slightly less than half screen.
 Johnny 54 17 71 Fullscreen1 Medium Travels very slow.
 Justice 74 12 86 Fullscreen1 Medium Travels extremely fast.
 Kliff Undersn 100 23 123 Long1 Very High Travels somewhat slow for slightly more than half screen. FB Chop > RC > IK is unmashable.
 Ky Kiske 46 17 63 Long Low
 May 70 16 86 Short Very High Command grab. True reversal.
 Millia Rage 66 34 100 Fullscreen Low Tracks.
 Order-Sol N/A (101) N/A (8) N/A (109) Short Medium Activation is time to reach level 3 from zero charge. Startup is Sakkai. Just for fun.
EX  Order-Sol 76 8 84 Short Medium Just for fun.
 Potemkin 98 17 115 Short High True reversal according to hitbox viewer.
 Robo-Ky 80 18 98 Short High Will most likely stun while airborne.
 Slayer 80 20 100 Medium1 Medium Travels pretty fast for slightly farther than roundstart.
 Sol Badguy 76 15 91 Short-Medium Low Reaches pretty far, but at the height where it probably won't hit anything.
 Testament 60 32 92 Medium Low
 Venom 44 26 70 Short Low
 Zappa 76 6 82 Very Short Medium Command grab
1: Range is for maximum distance, thus startup is only true if activated point blank.

Misc

Quick Ref

chara input name startup
chara input name startup
A.B.A D+X Blue Burst 17
A.B.A 6H[gm] 11
A.B.A DAA[m] Dead Angle Attack (Moroha) 10
A.B.A 236S > 46S > 63214S[m] Condemnation 14
Dizzy 5D 29
Faust 2D 13
Jam Kuradoberi 2H 9
Ky Kiske 5D 25
May 5[D] Just Kidding~ 35
Millia Rage 5D 27
Order-Sol 632146H Lv1 Tyrant Rave ver. Omega Lv 1 5+10
Robo-Ky 5D 24
Venom 5D 25
Venom 6P 9
Zappa 236P Hello, Three Centipedes 10
Zappa 236S This Has Gotta Hurt 12

Venom Ballboxes

Like other things in the game balls are interactable with using boxes. Normally hitboxes are used for this purpose—balls can even be hit using currently inactive ones. However there are some solely ball interaction.

In inert stage balls are interacted with using their "collision" box (orange), while active balls use their hitbox.

Attacks that spawn balls, like Stinger Aim, also use those boxes and can be utilized to hit balls outside of launched projectile's trajectory. Another quirk about those is that ball spawns before startup and can be hit by other active balls.

6H has two hitboxes exclusively for hitting balls. They will hit balls below or inside Venom and send them straight up.