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testing stuff out in my own little page, ignore this probably.


{{Overview/navigation|okizeme=true}}
==Key Moves==
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|header=Key Moves
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*{{MMC|input=2S|label={{clr|3|2S}}}} and {{MMC|input=f.S|label={{clr|3|f.S}}}} are your best buttons for poking.
*{{MMC|input=5K|label={{clr|K|5K}}}} and {{MMC|input=j.P|label={{clr|1|j.P}}}} are strong buttons to stop opponents from getting in your personal space.
*{{MMC|input=2K|label={{clr|2|2K}}}} is your fastest button and goes into both {{clr|3|c.S}} and {{clr|5|2D}} for combos.
*{{MMC|input=214X|label=Ball Set}} is Venom's core gimmick.
*For basic zoning, use {{clr|3|214S}} or {{clr|2|214K}} and then hit the ball with either {{MMC|input=5P|label={{clr|1|5P}}}} or {{clr|1|j.P}}.
*Use {{MMC|input=2D|label={{clr|5|2D}}}} to punish at mid range. This is the easy path to your Okizeme.
*{{MMC|input=c.S|label={{clr|3|c.S}}}} is one of your best buttons, but you have to get close to do it. It starts your good combos, goes into {{clr|5|2D}} for a low with a knockdown, and can lead into {{MMC|input=j.236S|label={{clr|3|j.236S}}}} or {{MMC|input=5D|label={{clr|5|5D}}}} for an overhead.
*{{MMC|input=421X|label=Dubious  Curve}} is a combo ender that gives you a better ball than ball set.
|subheader1=Anti-Airs
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*Use {{MMC|input=6P|label={{clr|1|6P}}}} to anti-air opponents from the ground.
*Jump and press {{clr|1|j.P}} for a lower risk option.
*Learn to jump forwards and {{MMC|input=Air Throw}}. It can be hard, but it's very important for this character.
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==Combos==
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|header=Combos
|content=<big>'''You want to hit them with {{clr|3|c.S}}'''</big>
*{{MCB|(starter) > {{MMC|input=c.S|label={{clr|3|c.S}}}}(3) > {{MMC|input=6K|label={{clr|2|6K}}}} > {{clr|2|421K}}~{{clr|5|D}}}} — An easy combo that gives you a lightning ball for okizeme. You can end with {{clr|1|421P}} if you want {{prompt|GGACR|P}} ball oki.
*{{MCB|throw > {{clr|3|c.S}}(1) > {{clr|2|6K}} > {{clr|2|421K}}~{{clr|5|D}}}} — basic throw combo
*{{MCB|{{clr|2|2K}} > {{clr|5|2D}} > 214X}} — If you are too far away to land all 3 hits of {{clr|3|c.S}}, use this instead. Cancel {{clr|5|2D}} into your favorite ball set.
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File:GGACR_Venom_Beginner_BNB.mp4|Basic Combo
File:GGACR_Venom_Beginner_BNB-Throw.mp4|Basic Combo from Throw
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|subheader1=Starting combos
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*{{clr|2|2K}} — This is one of your fastest buttons, and you will normally clip them with this before other buttons. Gatling into {{clr|3|c.S}} and then start a combo. If you're too far to go into {{clr|3|c.S}}, gatling into {{clr|5|2D}} instead and start your oki.
*{{MMC|input=j.K|label={{clr|2|j.K}}}}, {{MMC|input=j.S|label={{clr|3|j.S}}}}, {{MMC|input=j.H|label={{clr|4|j.H}}}}, and {{clr|3|j.236S}} — These are your standard overheads. When used properly, they should leave you within range for {{clr|3|c.S}} on hit so you can start your combo. If you're ever too far, just go with {{Clr|5|2D}} instead.
*Throw — always a good option for Venom once the opponent starts respecting your balls.
|subheader2=Spending Meter
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*You should probably use meter to do {{MMC|game=GGACR|chara=Venom|input=2141236S|label=Dark Angel}} after knocking the opponent down.
*Try to keep 50% tension available for {{MMC|input=DAA|label=Dead Angle}} on defense. It can save your life.
*Red Roman Cancel can be used for half a bar of Tension if you make a mistake during a blockstring. It can help keep you safe.
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==Okizeme==
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|header=What to do after a knockdown
|content=Make them block a ball. Use the advantage from that ball to hit them with a mixup.
|subheader1={{Prompt|GGACR|K|32px}} Ball Oki
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Do a tiny dash and jump. On the way up, hit the ball with {{clr|2|j.K}}. The ball will hit the opponent as they get up. Next Pick if you want to hit overhead or low.
*Overhead — Before you reach the ground, air dash at the opponent and hit them with air buttons. {{clr|2|j.K}} > {{clr|3|j.S}} is the easiest to get started with. 
*Low — Let Venom land and then press {{clr|2|2K}}.
If they block this initial mixup, you should still be in range to use either {{clr|2|2K}} or {{clr|3|c.S}}. If they block {{clr|3|c.S}} then you can jump cancel it and do {{clr|3|j.236S}} for another overhead, or press {{clr|5|2D}} for a low.

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File:GGACR_Venom_K-Ball_Oki_Low.mp4|Low Example
File:GGACR_Venom_K-Ball_Oki_High.mp4|Overhead Example
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|subheader2={{Prompt|GGACR|P|32px}} Ball Oki
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Hit the ball with {{clr|1|5P}}. The ball should hit the opponent as they get up. Dash towards them and pick a mixup.
*Low — press {{clr|2|2K}}.
*Throw — wait just a moment for the ball's blockstun to end, and then throw them.
*Overhead — jump and do {{clr|3|j.236S}} as quickly as you can.
If the opponent blocks your {{clr|2|2K}} you should still be in range for {{clr|3|c.S}}. From {{clr|3|c.S}} you can jump cancel into {{clr|3|j.236S}} for an overhead, or press {{clr|5|2D}} for a low.
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File:GGACR_Venom_P-Ball_Oki_Low.mp4|Low Example
File:GGACR_Venom_P-Ball_Oki_High.mp4|Overhead Example
File:GGACR_Venom_P-Ball_Oki_Throw.mp4|Throw Example
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==Navigation==
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===Round Start===
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Primary Threats: {{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Faust|input=2P|label={{clr|K|2P}}|hitboxMode=true}} and {{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Faust|input=j.2K|label={{clr|K|j.2K}}|hitboxMode=true}}

Primary Options: {{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Jack-O|input=2K|label={{clr|K|2K}}}}, {{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Jack-O|input=5K|label={{clr|K|5K}}}}, and {{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Jack-O|input=2D|label={{clr|D|2D}}}}

:{| class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable"
! style=white-space:nowrap colspan=9 | ''Round Start Matrix''
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! rowspan=2| {{Character Label|GGST|Jack-O|label=&nbsp;}}Option !! colspan=8|  {{Character Label|GGST|Faust|label=Faust's Round Start}}
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! {{clr|P|2P}} !! {{clr|K|5K}} !! {{clr|P|6P}} !! {{clr|K|j.2K}}
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! {{clr|K|5K}}
| style="background-color: #FF000020"| Countered || Trade || style="background-color: #FF000020"| Punished || style="background-color: #00FF0020"| Counters 
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! {{clr|K|2K}}
| style="background-color: #00FF0020"| Counters || Neutral (+2) || style="background-color: #00FF0020"| Counters || style="background-color: #FF000020"| Whiff Punished
|-
! {{clr|D|2D}}
| style="background-color: #FF000020"| Countered || style="background-color: #00FF0020"| Counters || style="background-color: #00FF0020"| Counters || style="background-color: #FF000020"| Countered 

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Very advantageous round start as Jack-O's {{clr|K|2K}}'s speed, range, and low profile frames make it incredibly difficult to stop or punish, especially by Faust. Faust has no normals he can immediately press that outright beat Jack-O 

{{clr|K|2K}}, all of them either getting hit during their start up or just missing, usually leaving Jack-O' plus thanks to {{clr|K|2K}}'s fast recovery. The only thing Faust can reliably do that beats {{clr|K|2K}} is jump in the air and immediately {{clr|K|j.2K}} to punish {{clr|K|2K}}'s recovery, which has incredibly low reward. Faust's {{clr|K|j.2K}} inputted immediately after jumping is barely plus. If Faust attempts to cancel in Love or Mix Mix Mix, Jack-O will recover in enough time that she can successfully {{clr|P|6P}} either follow up. Not canceling {{clr|K|j.2K}} and just landing isn't much better, only leaving Faust +2. Faust's strongest way of punishing Jack-O {{clr|K|2K}} is by manually timing a whiff punish, which is easier said then done. Jack-O' low profile state lasts right up till the end of her recovery, meaning any good high poke Faust has ({{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Faust|input=5K|label={{clr|K|5K}}}}, {{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Faust|input=f.S|label={{clr|S|f.S}}}}, {{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Faust|input=5H|label={{clr|H|5H}}}}) is already unusable. Faust's best whiff punish is standing still, letting Jack-O's {{clr|K|2K}} whiff, {{Tt|and then punishing with {{clr|K|2K}} > {{clr|D|2D}} before her foot retracts.|[[File:GGST Jack-O Matchups Faust 2KWhiffPunish.webm|autoplay|nocontrols|loop|muted]]}} The most reliable easiest whiff punish Faust has is {{clr|P|2P}}, which leads to nothing, and is 0 on hit. Do {{clr|K|2K}} until Faust stops playing round start.

In case Faust decides that he's okay with the low reward of divekick, you can easily call him out with Jack-O's {{clr|K|5K}}.
{{TheoryBox
| Title = {{clr|K|5K}} Round Start Divekick Combo
| Oneliner = Show him a real diagonal kick
| Recipe = {{clr|K|5K}} > dc > (delay) {{clr|S|c.S}} > {{clr|H|2H}} > {{clr|P|236P}} > {{clr|K|5K}} > dc > {{clr|S|c.S}} > {{clr|H|2H}} > {{clr|P|236[P]}} > Dash > Forward Jump > j.hs.6X > {{clr|S|j.S}}
| Difficulty = {{clr|3|Medium}}
| Video = GGST Jack-O Matchups Faust 5KDivekick.webm
| content =
This combo has does 139 damage and builds a solid chunk of meter all while taking Faust to the corner. Once cornered it's going to be very easy to build up the final bit of meter you'll need for {{MiniMoveCard|game=GGST|chara=Jack-O|input=236236H|label= Cheer {{clr|H|H}}}}, and from there Faust is going to be really wishing he didn't divekick.

There's a slight delay before doing {{clr|S|c.S}}. If you're too early you'll do {{clr|S|f.S}} instead, too late Faust will fall down too much and the {{clr|P|236P}} > {{clr|K|5K}} link will no longer be possible. You just have to eyeball the timing but the window is pretty big.
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At the point Faust is either blocking or trying to whiff punish you round start, begin representing {{clr|D|2D}} to call him out on any attempts to stand still and let you whiff. Faust's ability to crawl would be useful in this scenario as he is the sole character that can move backwards for whiff punishes while blocking any surprise lows, if not for the fact that if the Faust down backs at round start then proximity guard activates on Jack-O {{clr|K|2K}} in spite of the fact it whiffs if he just crouches normally. From here rotate your options as needed, just make sure to start with {{clr|K|2K}}.